First time car owner

[DuniZane]

Hey Guys

Looking into purchasing a car in the next couple of months. I have a short list of cars that I found

This would be my first car
Would use it to travel to and from work(60k per day)
1 visit per month from JHB to Limpopo (1000 km)
I have a family, with 2 kids
My budget is R150k to R200k

My shortlist is :
Hyundai i20
Ford fiesta
Polo vivo trendline
Kia Rio
Renault Clio
Any recommendations or advise?

 

[UrBaN963]

Fiesta or Rio

 

[DuniZane]

Fiesta or Rio

Fiesta has been top of my list, so this is reassuring. Do you think I can find versions(both cars) no more than 5 years old with less than 50k mileage at that price range and still reliable?

 

[UrBaN963]

Fiesta has been top of my list, so this is reassuring. Do you think I can find versions(both cars) no more than 5 years old with less than 50k mileage at that price range and still reliable?

Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend Auto for sale in Pretoria - ID: 25718321

Used 2016 Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend Auto For Sale - R 174 999 - ID: 25718321

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Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend for sale in Pretoria - ID: 25740815

Used 2017 Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend For Sale - R 174 999 - ID: 25740815

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Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend for sale in Roodepoort - ID: 25729000

Used 2017 Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend For Sale - R 179 900 - ID: 25729000

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[NeonNinja]

In that order.

 

[DuniZane]

Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend Auto for sale in Pretoria - ID: 25718321

Used 2016 Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend Auto For Sale - R 174 999 - ID: 25718321

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Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend for sale in Pretoria - ID: 25740815

Used 2017 Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend For Sale - R 174 999 - ID: 25740815

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Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend for sale in Roodepoort - ID: 25729000

Used 2017 Ford Fiesta 5-Door 1.0T Trend For Sale - R 179 900 - ID: 25729000

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Thank you

 

[DuniZane]

In that order.

The fiesta is 1st preference then the i20. The rest are not ordered

 

[UrBaN963]

Thank you

Bear in mind, the price you see there isn’t the price you will pay.

There will be “on the road” fees, licensing fees, finance agreement initiation fees, insurance, etc.

The F&I person at a dealership can go over it all with you.

Also remember, you are the purchaser and they want your money. Don’t be shy to haggle the price a little.

Also insist they try different banks for the finance application if you’re aren’t happy with the interest rate. Depending on your age and financial situation, anything from to prime +2% is probably average. Dealerships typically have agreements with banks, so they’ll usually only try that bank first. You’re within your rights to request they try other banks as well.

Also, be sure to inspect every inch of the car so you know what you’re buying. Ask about accidents and then check for yourself. I’ve had three scenarios where they claimed no accidents, but there were clear signs of accident damage.

You can ask them to sort things out and they’ll often oblige.

 

[DuniZane]

Bear in mind, the price you see there isn’t the price you will pay.

There will be “on the road” fees, licensing fees, finance agreement initiation fees, insurance, etc.

The F&I person at a dealership can go over it all with you.

Also remember, you are the purchaser and they want your money. Don’t be shy to haggle the price a little.

Also insist they try different banks for the finance application if you’re aren’t happy with the interest rate. Depending on your age and financial situation, anything from to prime +2% is probably average. Dealerships typically have agreements with banks, so they’ll usually only try that bank first. You’re within your rights to request they try other banks as well.

Also, be sure to inspect every inch of the car so you know what you’re buying. Ask about accidents and then check for yourself. I’ve had three scenarios where they claimed no accidents, but there were clear signs of accident damage.

You can ask them to sort things out and they’ll often oblige.

I will keep that in mind as part of my planning.

I've been playing with the idea of getting a mechanic to inspect the car but on top of the extra fees, it seems like more cost. I am also taking my cousin with experience of buying cars to help so I do not get taken advantage of.

 

[UrBaN963]

I will keep that in mind as part of my planning.

I've been playing with the idea of getting a mechanic to inspect the car but on top of the extra fees, it seems like more cost. I am also taking my cousin with experience of buying cars to help so I do not get taken advantage of.

That’s a good plan.

Please take some advice. Don’t go to Uncle Joe’s dealership, or some equally dodgy place. Go to an actual dealership. It’s just risky dealing with these smaller places, a lot of them deal in shitboxes, dodgy finance, cars in poor condition, what have you.

Also, make sure you get a copy of the Dekra certificate so you can see the state of the vehicle.

 

[DuniZane]

That’s a good plan.

Please take some advice. Don’t go to Uncle Joe’s dealership, or some equally dodgy place. Go to an actual dealership. It’s just risky dealing with these smaller places, a lot of them deal in shitboxes, dodgy finance, cars in poor condition, what have you.

Also, make sure you get a copy of the Dekra certificate so you can see the state of the vehicle.

Yes, I've been getting that message a lot. For example if I'm going for a Fiesta then it is better to just go to a Ford dealership.

I'll make sure to tick all these boxes so I don't pick up a burden as a first car.

 

[DuniZane]

That’s a good plan.

Please take some advice. Don’t go to Uncle Joe’s dealership, or some equally dodgy place. Go to an actual dealership. It’s just risky dealing with these smaller places, a lot of them deal in shitboxes, dodgy finance, cars in poor condition, what have you.

Also, make sure you get a copy of the Dekra certificate so you can see the state of the vehicle.

Also do you have a list of dealerships that you know are reliable?

 

[Sumen]

Hey Guys

Looking into purchasing a car in the next couple of months. I have a short list of cars that I found

This would be my first car
Would use it to travel to and from work(60k per day)
1 visit per month from Limpopo to JHB(1000 km)
I have a family, with 2 kids
My budget is R150k to R200k

My shortlist is :
Hyundai i20
Ford fiesta
Polo vivo trendline
Kia Rio
Renault Clio
Any recommendations or advise?

Since you like the Fiesta maybe also look at this Focus, it has the sport and safety pack installed, it would be a better family car. Its in Gauteng though - 2018 Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door

2018 Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door

Used Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door for sale in Gauteng, car manufactured in 2018 (ID:6048001)

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[Brenden_E]

Since you like the Fiesta maybe also look at this Focus, it has the sport and safety pack installed, it would be a better family car. Its in Gauteng though - 2018 Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door

2018 Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door

Used Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door for sale in Gauteng, car manufactured in 2018 (ID:6048001)

www.cars.co.za

Looks like someone shot a porn movie in the back of this car...

 

[TheChamp]

If I was in you position I would stay away from any turbocharged hatch, I think I have a pretty good idea what does going to Limpopo every month entails, stick with a trusty normally aspirated engine in whatever car you choose, you will thank me later.

I see you like the Fiesta but I would go with the Koreans. i20 or Rio, just stay away from the 1.2l models.

 

[namzsteve]

If I was in you position I would stay away from any turbocharged hatch, I think I have a pretty good idea what does going to Limpopo every month entails, stick with a trusty normally aspirated engine in whatever car you choose, you will thank me later.

I see you like the Fiesta but I would go with the Koreans. i20 or Rio, just stay away from the 1.2l models.

What was your experience with turbocharged hatch?
Still driving one without any issues at the moment. NA engines are less complicated though.

 

[TheChamp]

What was your experience with turbocharged hatch?
Still driving one without any issues at the moment. NA engines are less complicated though.

My experience is that when things go wrong they go wrong in a big way, I hate car problems that cost an arm and a leg, I just prefer the simplicity of a decent normally aspirated car, especially for people who are not rolling in money, no disrespect intended to OP.

It's not just turbos I have a problem with although that comes up more often since everyone is going turbocharged these days, it's generally all cars that comes with complications that makes your life very miserable when things go wrong, like some fancy auto gearboxes. A friend of mine recently had a similar issue with a B Class that he bought for his wife, some mechatronic board that costs R26000, I just find expensive repairs very unnecessary and annoying.

OP goes to Limpopo every month, lots of kms on the motor, the simpler the car mechanics the better, if something does go wrong he can quickly get it sorted, wherever he is. It is a personal preference at the end of the day and maybe I have spent a lot of time with peasants who owns fancy cars out of warranties and motor plans.

 

[DuniZane]

Since you like the Fiesta maybe also look at this Focus, it has the sport and safety pack installed, it would be a better family car. Its in Gauteng though - 2018 Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door

2018 Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door

Used Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost Trend Auto 5-Door for sale in Gauteng, car manufactured in 2018 (ID:6048001)

www.cars.co.za

I just realized that I put Limpopo to Jhb. Should have been JHB to Limpopo. Thanks I'll have a look, I've just always felt that any focus would be out of my budget

 

[DuniZane]

If I was in you position I would stay away from any turbocharged hatch, I think I have a pretty good idea what does going to Limpopo every month entails, stick with a trusty normally aspirated engine in whatever car you choose, you will thank me later.

I see you like the Fiesta but I would go with the Koreans. i20 or Rio, just stay away from the 1.2l models.

Okay, thanks for the information. I'll note this as I do more searching. Have you ever come across an article that you think explained engines clearly? Please share the link

 

[DuniZane]

My experience is that when things go wrong they go wrong in a big way, I hate car problems that cost an arm and a leg, I just prefer the simplicity of a decent normally aspirated car, especially for people who are not rolling in money, no disrespect intended to OP.

It's not just turbos I have a problem with although that comes up more often since everyone is going turbocharged these days, it's generally all cars that comes with complications that makes your life very miserable when things go wrong, like some fancy auto gearboxes. A friend of mine recently had a similar issue with a B Class that he bought for his wife, some mechatronic board that costs R26000, I just find expensive repairs very unnecessary and annoying.

OP goes to Limpopo every month, lots of kms on the motor, the simpler the car mechanics the better, if something does go wrong he can quickly get it sorted, wherever he is. It is a personal preference at the end of the day and maybe I have spent a lot of time with peasants who owns fancy cars out of warranties and motor plans.

No disrespect taken, I appreciate the explanation. It will help to have something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg if something goes wrong. If you're familiar to roads in Limpopo, the further in you go the more unreliable the roads get,in the area I visit it's potholes every meter at some point plus a lot of gravel roads.