Flu vaccination

[Vegeta]

I've been getting the vaccine every year for the last 10 years only got the flu once and that was the first year I started so 9 years no flu nothing. Even when everyone in the office gets sick in winter I don't catch it. I'm immune, swine flu pffffftt whatever

It's the best thing I do for my health every year.

 

[Sonic2k]

I have had the shot this year.
Now that my sinuses are fixed, I just suffer from hayfever and congestion with this dry air.
Everyone around me is sick... nothing this side. I get symptoms when first exposed to these people, which subside 8 hours or so later and then its back to normal.

 

[Vegeta]

I have had the shot this year.
Now that my sinuses are fixed, I just suffer from hayfever and congestion with this dry air.
Everyone around me is sick... nothing this side. I get symptoms when first exposed to these people, which subside 8 hours or so later and then its back to normal.

Same here I sometimes get very slight symptoms for a couple of hours and then it's all over. I find the vaccine to be most effective if you get it a couple of years in a row. Stacking ftw!

 

[Slootvreter]

I found this Slootvreter. It is too complicated for me. Maybe you will understand it.

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I'll read up on that when I get a chance, but until proven otherwise, I'm of opinion that flu is a virus of which the symptoms can be treated for an increased level of comfort, but it's pretty much a waiting game. I've had flu only a few times, and those were 4 days of hell. Yeah, I'm a baby when I'm sick. What helped me the most, was drinking water (throat got dry), and sleeping tablets.

I also note that people complain that flu gets worse every year, and in certain countries people drying of a certain new strain. Perhaps a highly evolved strain of the influenza virus will one day be the end of mankind.

 

[noxibox]

Apart from this thread I got advice that I shouldn't go ahead and do it because you get a whole lot worse after you get off it, or the specific general strand isn't the one that got you.

Getting hit by a different strain is a definite possibility, but how dose someone determine they got worse after they got off it (whatever that means)?

I have heard other people also say that the one year they got the shot they either got sick anyway or the severity actually increased.

How could someone on their own determine that the severity increased due to getting the vaccine?

 

[Flip-Flop]

Getting hit by a different strain is a definite possibility, but how dose someone determine they got worse after they got off it (whatever that means)?


How could someone on their own determine that the severity increased due to getting the vaccine?

Could be a perception from previous times they had the flu without the vaccination. I am guessing.

 

[-Prismo-]

Getting hit by a different strain is a definite possibility, but how dose someone determine they got worse after they got off it (whatever that means)?

Perhaps I wasn't clear,

I meant that once they got off it (meaning once it wore off), then they got a terrible case of flu. The person said that it was worse than a normal flu they'd have if they hadn't taken the shot. But it was effective in keeping them immune during winter.

So that to me defeats the purpose because then you get sick anyway (so he said). Where the aim would be NOT to get sick ...

 

[atomcrusher]

I've been getting the vaccine every year for the last 10 years only got the flu once and that was the first year I started so 9 years no flu nothing. Even when everyone in the office gets sick in winter I don't catch it. I'm immune, swine flu pffffftt whatever

It's the best thing I do for my health every year.

This sums up my experience as well with the flu vaccine. Been having it for years, and I can only think of one winter when I had a mild snotty-nose & cough, and that was the year I had the shot later in the year than I usually do. Now I have it as soon as it's available in places like Clicks, or most other pharmacies

 

[STS]

you can also go to a witchdoctor for a cure to stop things from falling on your head, and claim great success when nothing falls on your head

in my personal experience, i have had 5 people, all close to me, get extremely sick after getting the flu vaccine. not enough to kill you but it knocks you down, and i don't believe 5 people are a coincidence, with me also personally having received a flu vaccine and gotten extremely sick afterwards whereas i normally never get sick.

perhaps it is coincidence that i got sick right after the shot, but i still believe healthy eating and a hygienic environment go further. i also know that we have different levels of exposure to people on a day to day basis, so some of us tend to shake hands or touch more keyboards than most other people, a flu vaccine can only do so much

my friend who is a biologist also assured me that it's one of the few vaccines that are a waste of time, but if you get it and get sick, the likelihood of you getting sick from your second, third and forth are highly unlikely

 

[noxibox]

I meant that once they got off it (meaning once it wore off), then they got a terrible case of flu.

Even if the vaccine did wear off after only a few months the latter doesn't follow as consequence thereof. Did they at least test this hypothesis over several years?

Could be a perception from previous times they had the flu without the vaccination. I am guessing.

Making it as valid as people who think the typical over the counter medications are making them get better faster or that that water from the homoeopath cured them.

 

[noxibox]

perhaps it is coincidence that i got sick right after the shot

That's the probable explanation. Or the placebo effect.

 

[grim]

If you are generally healthy I'd stay away from it, I've never had flu in my life and also never had a flu shot.

If you have a weakened immune system it's probably a good idea to get the shot to help your system prepare should you get it.

 

[-Prismo-]

Did they at least test this hypothesis over several years?

1) Before they didn't know about it they had the normal annual flu..
2) They tried the shot 2 consecutive years and after both tries they got hit by a " crappy " flu (which came at different times from each other depending on when they got the germ)
3) They went the third year without it and everything reverted

I've never had flu in my life

wait is this possible ?

 

[grim]

wait is this possible ?

Last time I saw a doctor because I was sick was over 10 years ago, think it was bronchitis then. The worst I get is maybe a sore throat and a runny nose

 

[SauRoNZA]

If you have a weakened immune system it's probably a good idea to get the shot to help your system prepare should you get it.

If you have a weak immune system it's a very good reason NOT to get the shot because that's more than likely why some people get sick.

If you are healthy you get the shot to stay healthy.

As I recall they very specifically state you shouldn't receive the shot if you feel even remotely sick at the time of getting it.

 

[satanboy]

1st time I got the worst flu I've ever had.
2nd time I didn't get sick.
3rd time I got the flu.
Gave up on that nonsense.

 

[-Prismo-]

Last time I saw a doctor because I was sick was over 10 years ago, think it was bronchitis then. The worst I get is maybe a sore throat and a runny nose

That's neat .... Generally stopped being sick by becoming a germophobe. Works well

 

[mister]

I have never had a flu vaccine, and I cannot remember the last time I had flu. It was definitely more than 10 years ago. Even when everyone in the office gets sick in winter I don't catch it. I'm immune, swine flu pffffftt whatever. It's the best thing I don't do for my health every year.

I've been getting the vaccine every year for the last 10 years only got the flu once and that was the first year I started so 9 years no flu nothing. Even when everyone in the office gets sick in winter I don't catch it. I'm immune, swine flu pffffftt whatever

It's the best thing I do for my health every year.

 

[ponder]

I will still decline

 

[porchrat]

my friend who is a biologist also assured me that it's one of the few vaccines that are a waste of time

Generic biologists don't make vaccines. Ask a vaccinologist or an immunologist. Heck at least ask someone involved in similar fields at a molecular level like a molecular biologist or a biochemist. Appeals to authority only work when the entity you are appealing to is actually an authority.

Biologists don't even have to take physiology.

As an aside, as a biochemist I agree that the flu vaccine seems to me to be largely a waste of time but I also acknowledge readily that I'm neither an immunolgist nor am I a vaccinologist so my opinion on the matter counts for little.