FNB Talk - Say Nothing For Less

Cpt Jack Celliers

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Hi People.

I have been using FNB Talk now since November 2010. Its very nicely priced (25c per min for all calls, pay as you go), but if less than 40% of your calls actually work then maybe their slogan should be "Say Nothing For Less" rather than "Say Hello for Less".

How is everyone else finding this? If you haven't tried it, you may as well - its 10/10 for ease of access and startup, especially if you are an FNB account. You get R10 credit in your account after the free sign-up so that you can test it out. That's where the fun stops.

Here are the most common problems I have been experiencing (using the PC digital phone):

  • Dial a number and after a short pause phone reverts to the ready/start screen with no error reported
  • Dial a number and you immediately get a recorded message saying, "The number you have dialed is not available"
  • Dial a number and you get a message on the screen saying "Call Rejected!"
  • Dial a number and you get a recorded message saying, "The number you have dialed does not exist on the network (or something similar)
I have checked the line quality and bandwidth available and it is not being impacted by downloads/uploads.

The errors above account for 60% of my calls. When you do finally get through to the person you are trying to reach the call quality is 80% of the time unusable - with every fourth letter or word a person speaks being inaudible, pops, scratches and crackles like a World War I radio.

If this was my only experience of VOIP I would be horribly disillusioned. Fortunately I tried out Google Voice and Skype which both have brilliantly clear, polished audio quality. What is FNB doing with FNB Talk? Aren't they using any of the special codecs (G729 etc)?

BTW I am on a 4 MB Business ADSL connection with Internet Solutions (1MB Burstable to 4).

Please reply to this thread if you have found any hacks / tricks to get the system to work. I notice you can use other softphone clients with it, so maybe the quality is better on some of these? Anyone? Is the cellphone client any better? Anyone actually earning eBucks off this platform? :confused:
 
I have got the app on my phone and run it while my phone is connected via wifi to my 384k adsl (mweb uncapped).

I have had mixed results (always making calls to local cellphones). Sometimes its nice and clear, other times, call quality is not great at all.

I have not yet experienced the issues you mention. On 3G, it uses a lot of data (based on one call i made) decided to skip on using 3G.
 
Sometimes its nice and clear, other times, call quality is not great at all.

i have been using it for sometime now, mainly to Australian mobile phones.Some calls they can't hear me at all while I can hear them.If I do get through to them,it keeps breaking up.Other times it is perfect.I am also using the app on my phone to the wifi router.The support guy told me to upgrade to the latest software but never made any diffs.But even with the problems the price is right!!
 
Ive tried using connect phone on my sgs all calls were rubbish. So i tried using it through fring with much greater success. Id also like to know if anyone has had decent success with other sip clients on android and which do you feel is the best

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Ive tried using connect phone on my sgs all calls were rubbish. So i tried using it through fring with much greater success. Id also like to know if anyone has had decent success with other sip clients on android and which do you feel is the best

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How do you setup Fring to use the FNB account?
 
Okay found out how to do it - thank you google.

But i cannot add my detail to fring, it says there is a 30 character limit on the SIP userid, and i have to put in [email protected]
 
Soz hadnt checked back for a while just enter yr number leave the rest out i mean the bit after the number

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Right ive downloaded some more been trying csipsimple today and that has been better for me than fring. Calls have been very close to cellphone quality in fact. This is really starting to look good. Will be trying sipdroid tomorrow

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Used it on my iPhone and the quality was great - just....it had a 1 to second or so delay (tested with 2 cellphones)


I didn't get charged a CENT though (I'm talking about Vodacom's 3G Data Costs - it remained the same)

So i'd just like to know if the 3G data is for free when using this service or what? (maybe it was just a fluke when I tested it?)
 
Used it on my iPhone and the quality was great - just....it had a 1 to second or so delay (tested with 2 cellphones)


I didn't get charged a CENT though (I'm talking about Vodacom's 3G Data Costs - it remained the same)

So i'd just like to know if the 3G data is for free when using this service or what? (maybe it was just a fluke when I tested it?)

I doubt it would ever be free.


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Hi everyone - OP here.

Just wanted to say that since posting the original comment the call quality has improved a lot. I reckon about 25% of my calls are bad quality now compared to then. Also I checked out the latency and other quality issues on my line at www.pingtest.net and compared to what the FNB Digital Phone (PC) was giving me, there was a huge difference. The FNB phone was reporting ping of over 3000ms while my line was reporting a ping of 15ms, 0% packet loss and a jitter of 24ms. I guess this means that the connectivity to and from FNB is not sufficient to cope with the demand they are having. In any case things seem to be improving.
 
Used it on my iPhone and the quality was great - just....it had a 1 to second or so delay (tested with 2 cellphones)


I didn't get charged a CENT though (I'm talking about Vodacom's 3G Data Costs - it remained the same)

So i'd just like to know if the 3G data is for free when using this service or what? (maybe it was just a fluke when I tested it?)

Must have been a fluke. Though calls are free to other FNB Connect phones and to certain FNB numbers (FNB has created a whole set of 087 FNB Connect numbers for most of their client facing departments).
 
when is the 25c per minute promo ending? :>
 
U could also try nimbuzz i know there is a pc version.

Ive been messing around on my phone with csipsimple, sipdroid, fring and nimbuzz also tried 3cxphone but couldnt get it to work.

So far nimbuzz has been the best very clear hardly any delay. Second was csipsimple 80% calls were very good. Then fring was okay then just went to crap for me. Sipdroid couldnt hear anything.

Can Fring be hacked to work on a PC as a digital phone? Maybe the problems I am experiencing are to do with their PC softphone and not their service?



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Wonder if the quality problem is their VoIP provider or bandwidth to the VoIP provider.

They are using Asterisk so quality should be good.
 
Wonder if the quality problem is their VoIP provider or bandwidth to the VoIP provider.

They are using Asterisk so quality should be good.

I am thinking its bandwidth to the VOIP provider. The latency shown on the PC phone is often massive compared to the actual latency on my ADSL line.
 
U could also try nimbuzz i know there is a pc version.

Thanks I will try it.

So far nimbuzz has been the best very clear hardly any delay. Second was csipsimple 80% calls were very good. Then fring was okay then just went to crap for me. Sipdroid couldnt hear anything.

With the FNB call quality being so erratic you may just be measuring the change in their quality, not the change in the quality of the softphone?
 
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