For the gays out there.

You should probably learn to stop immersing yourself in gay media then. I guess you're a sucker for punishment.



And it's probably this attitude that results in so many bisexuals preferring to identify themselves with the black-and-white groups :)

I'd rather they did. Instead of breaking gay dudes hearts when they cheat on them with vag. Can't compete with that.
 
And you ever act on it instead of just looking?

nope I look away pretending nothing happened, since I keep that part a secret, most of time I am with someone.

My mom always asks my opinion on what clothes/handbags to buy and always give her right answer same with her friends asking me stuff lol, is this normal ockie :p.
 
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I'd rather they did. Instead of breaking gay dudes hearts when they cheat on them with vag. Can't compete with that.

*nod* That's precisely why they're ostracised in both gay and straight communities.

I'm the same--I'd never have a relationship with a bisexual person--as you say, you can't compete with that and the idea of being with someone who has been with a woman is pretty uncomfortable.

It's all a kind of jealousy though--you want the person you're with to be as attracted to you as you are to them and if you can't be "everything" they want, you feel inadequate.

But yeah, c'est la vie.
 
nope I look away pretending nothing happened, since I keep that part a secret, most of time I am with someone.

My mom always asks my opinion on what clothes/handbags to buy and always give her right answer same with her friends asking me stuff lol, is this normal ockie :p.

Shame...not nice.

As for the second part...erm...dunno...I hate shopping and the one or two times my mom did try something like that I told her she has got a fcking daughter..ask her! hehe...I hate shopping unless it is not clear :-)
 
Shame...not nice.

As for the second part...erm...dunno...I hate shopping and the one or two times my mom did try something like that I told her she has got a fcking daughter..ask her! hehe...I hate shopping unless it is not clear :-)

Lol I love shopping even if I am browsing through, most of my family hate shopping so not sure where I get it from :p.
 
Lol I love shopping even if I am browsing through

No thanks...I would rather submit to ball torture..with a hairy bear..mmmm ja...that is a plan ermm....but ja...no...I really do not like shopping. For me it is like a quicky. In and out. If you cant find what you looking for in 5 minutes you aint never gonna find it and you should give and we should go for lunch NOW!
 
No thanks...I would rather submit to ball torture..with a hairy bear..mmmm ja...that is a plan ermm....but ja...no...I really do not like shopping. For me it is like a quicky. In and out. If you cant find what you looking for in 5 minutes you aint never gonna find it and you should give and we should go for lunch NOW!

Guess you more masculine than I thought :D, I would say I am more on the feminine side of things
 
I'm straight and even I'd do Clive Owen. What a man *fans himself*
 
Ok i'm not out here to discriminate or make it look like I don't like gay people, I have no problem with anyones sexuality what so ever, but I want to know if you are full on gay, and you really see the hottest, perfectly built woman; does this not give you the slightest bit of arrousal, or do you see a lady's vaj as like euw, do you chose to be gay or do you feel you are born gay, but then I guess I see it as I would never be attracted to another race other than my own, and that's not be racist or anything, but maybe that is the best way to describe it, hope this didn't come across offensive.

I really do "appreciate" a hot woman. I have found myself on many occasions thinking, damn, If I was straight, I would definitely tap that!!! But if push comes to shove so to speak, there would be no solid foundation to making it happen if you know what I mean. :D

Definitely born gay, no one in their right mind would choose to be gay for a whole lot of other reasons other than the sexual part of it (excluding experimental phases maybe).

I can ask you the same question? If you see a really hot guy, that is perfectly built, don't you feel the slightest bit of arousal?

Alright, I ask this with no disrespect and not to try sound like I am generalising, but! Majority of gay guys are more feminine than that of a woman, so what is it that attracts you to a man if some of them are almost as close to that of girl, with the way they are etc. and the same applies to lesbians, it seems they will always try to date the manliest of woman out there, why not just date a guy if you are looking for that?

Very big generalisation that. Feminine gay guys just stand out more, because it is obviously different that what we are used to seeing. It would be the same as someone walking in a crowd with a neon orange t-shirt. If there are 20 people who all act or appear relatively the same and 1 of them don't then that person will be noticed. Most gay guys are just run-of-the-mill normal guys that just happen to like other guys. I am like that. I am openly gay, as in don't announce it, but if someone asks then I will tell them and I go for months and months after meeting new people and getting together often before they even know I am gay.

It is also the same generalisation that goes that gay guys don't watch or enjoy playing sport or bikes or fixing the lawnmower... whatever. It just simply is not like that. I like "butch", normal straight acting guys, like I think Ockie said, I have my Sister moments but it is usually only for giving everyone a good laugh or whatever.
 
Ok i'm not out here to discriminate or make it look like I don't like gay people, I have no problem with anyones sexuality what so ever, but I want to know if you are full on gay, and you really see the hottest, perfectly built woman; does this not give you the slightest bit of arrousal, or do you see a lady's vaj as like euw, do you chose to be gay or do you feel you are born gay, but then I guess I see it as I would never be attracted to another race other than my own, and that's not be racist or anything, but maybe that is the best way to describe it, hope this didn't come across offensive.

Not the slightest b it of arousal I am afraid.

Guess as you point out what attracts you, same with me. Strangely enough, I am Indian but am mainly atracted to blonde blue eyed guys.

It all boils down to sexual attraction
 
I think it must be the exact reverse situation that us straight guys find ourselves in. Some straight guys will claim that they cannot tell if a guy is attractive or not. That is not entirely true but not false either. We have a built in sensor for when a guy is seriously attractive, because it throws a cave man switch off in our heads. "Must keep woman away from man".

It is the middle ground that is where we cannot exactly tell, Because that is entering into personal taste and preference. I can rate a girl on a finite scale of 1 to 100 based purely on looks. I can rate a guy on a scale of 1 to 3. Dog ugly (5% of males fall into this IMO) Inferno hot (5% again) and the other 90% is left undecided. I would imagine that it is similar for gay guys. Except the inferno hot woman is not going to steal your man if he is gay, so you can simply appreciate their beauty instead of foam at the mouth with protective jealousy.
 
I think it must be the exact reverse situation that us straight guys find ourselves in. Some straight guys will claim that they cannot tell if a guy is attractive or not. That is not entirely true but not false either. We have a built in sensor for when a guy is seriously attractive, because it throws a cave man switch off in our heads. "Must keep woman away from man".

It is the middle ground that is where we cannot exactly tell, Because that is entering into personal taste and preference. I can rate a girl on a finite scale of 1 to 100 based purely on looks. I can rate a guy on a scale of 1 to 3. Dog ugly (5% of males fall into this IMO) Inferno hot (5% again) and the other 90% is left undecided. I would imagine that it is similar for gay guys. Except the inferno hot woman is not going to steal your man if he is gay, so you can simply appreciate their beauty instead of foam at the mouth with protective jealousy.

It's really difficult to quantify "beauty" as such for something that really doesn't even factor into that line of thought.

I've never experienced a moment where I've felt, "Wow, that girl looks hot." All girls look the same to me. Granted, it's easy to tell when a girl looks ugly based on the usual concepts of what constitutes "ugly" such as obesity, disfigurement or simply being horribly unkempt. And to be fair, it's not really a matter of "ugly" as much as it is just... "abnormal-looking."

But yeah, as for guys, it's easy for a really attractive guy to take your breath away. Or just the right guy :love:
 
. . . I am not butch...not am I feminine...unless I get horribly drunk and I start camping it up for a laugh. [/B]I again like either just normal guys like me or on the butch side...and with as much body hair that nature will allow without looking freaky! :-)

Sings Tamia's Stranger in my house: :whistle:

I don't understand
You look just like the man
:D
 
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