Foreign students drop plans to study at UCT

Most first world countries don't have free tertiary education, and the universities are full of foreign students who pay inflated prices.

I don't see how people think SA can afford it.
 
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ngwe23 said:
Tell me why a 90 odd foreign students' desire to study in SA supersedes the fight for free education for the African child. Which is more pertinent in your mind?
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You need their fees in foreign currency to hedge the against the decline in the Rand. South Africa is not a centre of world education and manufacturing, and as such you have to import equipment and educational resources.
 
konfab said:
You need their fees in foreign currency to hedge the against the decline in the Rand. South Africa is not a centre of world education and manufacturing, and as such you have to import equipment and educational resources.
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Yes because 90 students are going to hedge the cost of running a university as big as UCT. How much are they going to pay at most in tuition. Lets say 100grand a year. That is 9 mil. I am sure UCT is filling for bankruptcy as we speak.
 
ngwe23 said:
Yes because 90 students are going to hedge the cost of running a university as big as UCT. How much are they going to pay at most in tuition. Lets say 100grand a year. That is 9 mil. I am sure UCT is filling for bankruptcy as we speak.
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Wait a minute, you want these students to pay more?
 
ngwe23 said:
Tell me why a 90 odd foreign students' desire to study in SA supersedes the fight for free education for the African child. Which is more pertinent in your mind?
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When is this troll gonna get banned ? and why dont people ignore him ?
 
Now you guys are just talking nonsense. You can disagree with ngwe23 but you are seriously overestimating the financial impact of foreign students.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/gen...o-know-about-university-fees-in-south-africa/

40% of total university income comes from government.
31% comes from students, of which the vast majority are South African.
The rest comes from private sources (donations, fund raising etc.)

Foreign students are important but the amount of hair-pulling going on in this thread of how dependent we are on them for funding is ridiculous. Hedge against the rand. :rolleyes:
 
ngwe23 said:
How you arrive at that conclusion is beyond me.
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Easy, post #19

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...udy-at-UCT?p=18706088&viewfull=1#post18706088

You started with this argument in post #12,

ngwe23 said:
Tell me why a 90 odd foreign students' desire to study in SA supersedes the fight for free education for the African child. Which is more pertinent in your mind?
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knowing that these students are contributing through the UCT Semester Study Abroad program.

http://www.iapo.uct.ac.za/iapo/intstud/ssa-0

Then when you were questioned,

zolly said:
Dude, those foreign students help fund local students by paying higher fees. Remember, even if students eventually get their "free" fees, those fees aren't actually free. SOMEONE is paying for it, whether it's taxes, or foreign students who pay more to study here.
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you simply replied,

ngwe23 said:
These students are not paying enough to the extent that they can fund free higher education in SA. If they did, we would have free education already, duh!
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.

Contribution is contribution. UCT needs every viable contribution.
 
Knyro said:
Now you guys are just talking nonsense. You can disagree with ngwe23 but you are seriously overestimating the financial impact of foreign students.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/gen...o-know-about-university-fees-in-south-africa/

40% of total university income comes from government.
31% comes from students, of which the vast majority are South African.
The rest comes from private sources (donations, fund raising etc.)

Foreign students are important but the amount of hair-pulling going on in this thread of how dependent we are on them for funding is ridiculous. Hedge against the rand. :rolleyes:
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It is okay that they can do without this contribution?
 
ngwe23 said:
Tell me why a 90 odd foreign students' desire to study in SA supersedes the fight for free education for the African child. Which is more pertinent in your mind?
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Stuff free education, for anyone. Free education is crap education. Look at how that happens in the school system.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Right back at you,



I would like to know where 'you guys' talked nonsense? Not to mentioned this unanswered question to ngwe23,
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Here's one:

konfab said:
You need their fees in foreign currency to hedge the against the decline in the Rand. South Africa is not a centre of world education and manufacturing, and as such you have to import equipment and educational resources.
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You're not hedging anything with such a tiny amount of foreign students.

Just look at the first page lamenting the loss of 90 foreign students that would have been at UCT for a single semester nogal. You'd swear it is some kind of disaster.
 
ngwe23 said:
These students are not paying enough to the extent that they can fund free higher education in SA. If they did, we would have free education already, duh!
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Not just the money. Ethnic, cultural and intellectual diversity is a good thing.
These thousand foreign students are not allowed local residence accommodation so they instead rent out rooms supporting many homeowners . Those people's income is gone with the international students not coming anymore. Local students just want everything free so won't rent rooms.

Diverse students from all over the world would expand students perspectives. This would be a good thing unless if you want to have blinkers on and when you only see black faces feel good about yourself.
 
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well.. thats a bit of income gone

i wonder where it would be felt most. seems like a few salaries or building rentals can come out of that...

the experience for the local students gone too.
 
My proposed solution to #feesmustfall is B.Sc can study free. If they fail a year they have to pay. BA and BCom with their large classes have to study through UNISA at least the first year
 
Devika Milner, director of the Study Abroad office at the University of Miami, was quoted in the university's newspaper as saying it was too big a risk to send students to UCT in the current circumstances.
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Spare a thought for our own children that have to endure this crap just so they can study.

Sometimes I am actually ashamed of the fact that I was born an African.
 
Knyro said:
Here's one:



You're not hedging anything with such a tiny amount of foreign students.

Just look at the first page lamenting the loss of 90 foreign students that would have been at UCT for a single semester nogal. You'd swear it is some kind of disaster.
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The travesty is that the Fees Must Fall ilk would be celebrating this as some kind of victory.

Which it isn't, it's anything but a victory.
 
Knyro said:
Now you guys are just talking nonsense. You can disagree with ngwe23 but you are seriously overestimating the financial impact of foreign students.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/gen...o-know-about-university-fees-in-south-africa/

40% of total university income comes from government.
31% comes from students, of which the vast majority are South African.
The rest comes from private sources (donations, fund raising etc.)

Foreign students are important but the amount of hair-pulling going on in this thread of how dependent we are on them for funding is ridiculous. Hedge against the rand. :rolleyes:
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People are now demanding free education and any potential contributors (aside from the SA taxpayer of course) are not of paramount importance to help shoulder the burden? Good to know.
 
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