Foreigners told to share their secrets

If they were wanted to get rid of the foreign shops in their neighbourhoods they could have put some hardwork and effort into it. They could have boycotted those shops in their community and opened up their own shops selling similar goods. All this violence and looting was unnecessary. The fact that they destroyed shops which provide a valuable service to the community is mind boggling.
 
She said some even stupider stuff.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2015/01/28/reveal-trade-secrets-minister-tells-foreigners

FOREIGN business owners in SA’s townships cannot expect to co-exist peacefully with local business owners unless they share their trade secrets, says Small Business Development Minister Lindiwe Zulu.

The government is assembling a task team to address violence and tension between local and foreign business owners.

Looting of foreign-owned businesses spread to Ekurhuleni on Monday. On Tuesday Ms Zulu called for stronger regulation of foreign business operations in townships to be fast-tracked.

In an interview on Monday she said foreign business owners had an advantage over South African business owners in townships. This was because local business owners had been marginalised and been offered poor education and a lack of opportunities under apartheid.

"Foreigners need to understand that they are here as a courtesy and our priority is to the people of this country first and foremost. A platform is needed for business owners to communicate and share ideas. They cannot barricade themselves in and not share their practices with local business owners," Ms Zulu said.

Criminality, looting and murder would never be condoned, she said, adding that these took attention away from the valid concerns about businesses which did not operate according to the law from local business owners, she said.

"There is a lot of criminality… there are serious issues being raised but others are hijacking those concerns," she said.

Muhammad Osman of the Somali Association of SA in the Western Cape said if the government intended to regulate foreign business then all businesses in township areas need to be regulated on a level playing field.

Research fellow at the SA Institute for International Affairs Peter Draper said Ms Zulu’s remarks, underscored government’s mistrust of foreign investors which was also reflected in business regulations. "If you connect this to the broader picture, essentially this is part of a thrust to single out foreign business, which is contrary to the political message President Jacob Zuma went to portray in Davos. We are at a tipping point and we are going beyond it. You can only push foreign business so far before they disengage," he said.

Mr Draper agreed with Ms Zulu’s remarks on the effect of apartheid on local business owners in townships but said foreign business owners had to confront their own challenges with little state support.

"Apartheid did disadvantage black people and over generations it inhibited social capital. Many foreigners have trading entrenched in their blood. Wherever they go they bring social capital, networks and extended family. Is that unfair? I don’t think so. That’s life," he said.

Ms Zulu’s comments show the about-turn in the African National Congress’ (ANC’s) ideology of Pan Africanism and in line with remarks by party leaders.

After a week of looting in Soweto last week, ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe told residents in Doornkop that immigration laws needed to be strengthened to protect the country from terror.

Apparently Somalia has an amazing education system.
 
Nah there have always been tuck shops, spazas etc. The foreigner shops were just better and gradually put the South Africans out of business.

Agreed, it's demand that causes growth. Those shops have likely pushed out some SA shops. In the same way, every new Pick n Pay or Shoprite forces out smaller shops.

Or the Somalis, know there's no going back to that country with no functional government,

Its thrive or die for them

Absolutely, many of these guys are doing this so that their families can survive back home.
 
If the minister of small business development spews garbage like this it's no surprise that locals don't succeed.

It's always one excuse after the other for laziness and eventually the apartheid card is pulled. It's only 20 years since the great liberation and one would think that people would have moved on.

There are many other countries which faced similar conditions where a group of people was disadvantaged, but they managed to overcome this with hard work and without excuses.
 
In an interview on Monday she said foreign business owners had an advantage over South African business owners in townships. This was because local business owners had been marginalised and been offered poor education and a lack of opportunities under apartheid.

Many of the somalis and other entrepreneurs were even worse off yet they came here and carved out a life for themselves and for that the lazy greedy locals, who could not do it, attack the foreigners for their achievements. I will just say it straight these brainless idiots in the ANC government positions have less grey matter that the foreigners on on top of it they are lazy, incompetent and got to where they are by cheating and corruption.
 
They work for less. R50 a day seems like nothing in SA, but in Ethiopia/Somalia/Pakistan/Bangladesh, it's a lot more.

The only thing which should be down is ensuring that owners are legally in SA, and that their businesses are registered. I watched the Justice Factor on E, and someone from NAFCOC was complaining that foreigners own multiple shops, and employ someone else to stand behind the counter. Why is this bad? We don't complain when Pick n Pay or Shoprite expand, why is it wrong for these guys to do it? Yes, they should have work permits and pay tax, but if they can out do South Africans so be it.

Unfortunately most of them dont pay tax, their little shops dont turn noticable incomes and because its cash the taxman never knows about .
 
Unfortunately most of them dont pay tax, their little shops dont turn noticable incomes and because its cash the taxman never knows about .

And the locals do?

Don't kid yourself.
 
Johannesburg - Foreign shop owners must share their trade secrets with people in townships where they operate to curb violence and looting, Small Business Minister Lindiwe Zulu said.

You see this Lindiwe? This is where you must go back to with the way you talk. You don't belong in the real world. Now pack your **** and GTFO!

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Let's just say there is a secret and its written down. Don't think the lazy f****s will read it any ways. And even if they did read it they won't understand words like hard work, dedication etc. and even if they did understand the words, they will not know how to go about it. Ultimately, blame the apartheid etc and continue looting.
 
Work ethic: I know a guy who worked for himself(freelanced) and went on strike a few years back during one of the million protests we have... I was like WTF!!! He just didn't get it. I have an image in my head of him fighting with himself for his salary that month and taking himself to ccma over no work no pay rules.
 
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Work ethic: I know a guy who worked for himself(freelanced) and went on strike a few years back during one of the million protests we have... I was like WTF!!! He just didn't get it. I have an image in my head of him fighting with himself for his salary that month and taking himself to ccma over no work no pay rules.
That is classic!
 
That is classic!

Hehe yeah... it was one of those 'everyone must down tools in support of our struggle' call to action things... granted, he was freelancing so possibly never had any work coming in at the time, but still, seems there is a need for zarians to look for any excuse not to work, even when they are responsible for their own income
 
Unfortunately most of them dont pay tax, their little shops dont turn noticable incomes and because its cash the taxman never knows about .

And the locals do?

Don't kid yourself.

These businesses still run on a cash basis, and many suppliers don't ask questions. Some may ask to see a business licence, but at many, as long as you have cash, you can buy what you want. Locals are more likely to bank their money though, so are more likely to pay income tax.
 
They work for less. R50 a day seems like nothing in SA, but in Ethiopia/Somalia/Pakistan/Bangladesh, it's a lot more.

The only thing which should be down is ensuring that owners are legally in SA, and that their businesses are registered. I watched the Justice Factor on E, and someone from NAFCOC was complaining that foreigners own multiple shops, and employ someone else to stand behind the counter. Why is this bad? We don't complain when Pick n Pay or Shoprite expand, why is it wrong for these guys to do it? Yes, they should have work permits and pay tax, but if they can out do South Africans so be it.

Because it makes them look bad, that is why they do not like it.

Easier to complain that the government has not given you a Mercedes Benz than to work for it.

Look at the examples they have - the idiots in government get whatever they want for free.

Work ethic: I know a guy who worked for himself(freelanced) and went on strike a few years back during one of the million protests we have... I was like WTF!!! He just didn't get it. I have an image in my head of him fighting with himself for his salary that month and taking himself to ccma over no work no pay rules.

That is classic!

"We are going to strike until management pays us fairly!"
 
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Because it makes them look bad, that is why they do not like it.

Easier to complain that the government has not given you a Mercedes Benz than to work for it.

Look at the examples they have - the idiots in government get whatever they want for free.



That is classic!

"We are going to strike until management pays us fairly!"

The thing is that we have successful SA businesses which have started out small and then branched out. While this growth can hurt smaller businesses, we are still glad to see someone growing. It seems that their anger was that foreign shops were expanding. It's as if they only want them to run small one man operations.
 
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