Fortuner, Everest or ...?

[epah]

Fortuner not as comfortable as the Everest, infotainment in the fortuner is also a joke, The ride in the Everest is much more comfortable. And the interior is better too look at.

In terms of engines that 3.2 in the Everest just doesn’t have the bite that it claims to have on paper. It’s sluggish. Not saying it’s underpowered but the D4D or GD6 feels much more alive. And for that reason alone I would take the fortuner.

 

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Put the other 100k away, because you going to need it for repairs lol

 

[Neuk_]

I may be biased but you can find a lot of Touareg for R400k.

 

[Bionic]

Fortuner not as comfortable as the Everest, infotainment in the fortuner is also a joke, The ride in the Everest is much more comfortable. And the interior is better too look at.

In terms of engines that 3.2 in the Everest just doesn’t have the bite that it claims to have on paper. It’s sluggish. Not saying it’s underpowered but the D4D or GD6 feels much more alive. And for that reason alone I would take the fortuner.

I would go for the Everest. Power is lower than the Fortuner but everything else just outweighs the Toyota. If they going to be traveling for many miles, you want to be inside somewhere comfortable and has all the bells and whistles. The 4x4 on the Ford is great and I'm sure towing power is where the Ford excels. My dad has the 3.2 for the last 4 years and done about 40xxxx.only issue he has is the boot lid not automatically closing.

 

[die_koos]

I think you should be realistic about the kind of roads you are going to be driving.... if you are not planning on doing semi serious off road driving that requires 4x4 and or diff lock you will be much better served with something like a Hyundai Santa Fe or Kia Sorento.... pretty much the same size as a Fortuner or Everest and not built on a ladder frame chassis which means that it will be a lot more comfortable and drive a whole lot better on the thousands of kilometers you will be driving on tar between the odd dirt road stretches.
I would also recommend you look at the latest generation Toyota Rav4. Interior space is pretty close to a Fortuner and it drives like a dream. for R400K you will be able to get into a almost new one. I got one for my wife and was pleasantly surprised. The 2.0 Petrol has enough power and is very driveable.... consumption stands at 9.0 l/100 km for town driving and I managed 7.0 l/100 km on a 2000 kilo round trip with some local exploring to the north coast.

 

[WaxLyrical]

I'm seeing more of these Haval things on the road. For latest year with motorplan in that budget this would be worth considering.

 

[Craig_]

Fortuner not as comfortable as the Everest, infotainment in the fortuner is also a joke, The ride in the Everest is much more comfortable. And the interior is better too look at.

In terms of engines that 3.2 in the Everest just doesn’t have the bite that it claims to have on paper. It’s sluggish. Not saying it’s underpowered but the D4D or GD6 feels much more alive. And for that reason alone I would take the fortuner.

I've only driven short distances in the 3.2 ford, but I've done long distances in a 3.0 d4d hilux, and if the 3.2 is worse it has to be bloody horrific. The hilux I drove had barely over 110k km on but it felt sluggish on the open road. I can't even imagine how painful it must be to cover thousands of kilometers in that thing. I might soon have to do just that though, sadly.

 

[Neuk_]

I've only driven short distances in the 3.2 ford, but I've done long distances in a 3.0 d4d hilux, and if the 3.2 is worse it has to be bloody horrific. The hilux I drove had barely over 110k km on but it felt sluggish on the open road. I can't even imagine how painful it must be to cover thousands of kilometers in that thing. I might soon have to do just that though, sadly.

I have never driven the Ford 3.2 but have driven my father's 2.2 Everest, my fiancé's old 3.0 D4D Fortuner and my future FIL's 2.8 GD6 Fortuner and all of them are sluggish compared to say my 3.0 V6 TDi Touareg. My father hasn't complained much about his 2.2 Everest, it does what he needs it to do including towing my parents off road caravan, but he isn't in a rush and came from a Pajero Sport 2.5 TDi which was only slightly less agricultural than his Discovery II 2.5 TDi.

 

[Craig_]

I have never driven the Ford 3.2 but have driven my father's 2.2 Everest, my fiancé's old 3.0 D4D Fortuner and my future FIL's 2.8 GD6 Fortuner and all of them are sluggish compared to say my 3.0 V6 TDi Touareg. My father hasn't complained much about his 2.2 Everest, it does what he needs it to do including towing my parents off road caravan, but he isn't in a rush and came from a Pajero Sport 2.5 TDi which was only slightly less agricultural than his Discovery II 2.5 TDi.

Even compared to my old Caddy 1.9 diesel that hilux felt slow. I was just very suprised at that. It pulls a heavy load very well though.

 

[Quantum Theory]

I can't consider it low mileage at that price. Perhaps if it was 100k less. Maybe it's been too long since I last bought a car and can't come to terms with the current prices.

I'm in the market myself for an SUV between 400-500k that's less than 3 years old with <50,000km.

It basically comes down to the Mazda CX-5 2.0i Individual or Subaru Forester 2.0i-S ES. Both come with every bell and whistle as standard, great luggage space, decent ground clearance, premium sound systems (personal requirement - Bose in the Mazda and Harmon Kardon in the Subaru) and legendary Japanese reliability. The Scooby has 4WD with x-mode though which is a big swinger.

Can't bring myself to buy a Fortuner or Everest. They're basically just bakkies that are dressed like SUVs, but still drive and feel like bakkies. There are far more capable and premium products out there...

Yip. Maintenance plan as well (I found one in Durban with extended plan), which Mazda doesn't give you... Gives you all the bells and whistles of the Limited Everest, with less mileage. Drive is better on the road, with torque vectoring. HK sound system is epic. Off road is solid too. Just need to change the standard tyres and maybe get a 5th one to go on a roof basket. Biscuit not going to cut it in the middle of nowhere on a rocky road.

Drove it down from Durban to Cape Town on about 600km of dirt road. Just because. Did an epic roadtrip in December with some jeep track mountain traverses and a couple of small river crossings. Just came back from Cederberg this weekend... Handles everything like a champ.

 

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I love the idea especially for 4x4 but for long distance they're tiring,the age really shows unfortunately.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

The OP is from East London

That I am, Voicy knows this though, we have been close friends for a really long time outside of the internets

 

[Rocket-Boy]

If it's just you and the wife, Suzuki Jimny. Can go anywhere, and can be bought new, below your budget.

Love those cars, they are absolute dogs on long distance trips though. Im sure the new one is better, but the old one it was difficult to even get to 120 on a highway.
They are properly capable off road, but their popularity makes the price pretty nuts for what you get.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

Yip. Maintenance plan as well (I found one in Durban with extended plan), which Mazda doesn't give you... Gives you all the bells and whistles of the Limited Everest, with less mileage. Drive is better on the road, with torque vectoring. HK sound system is epic. Off road is solid too. Just need to change the standard tyres and maybe get a 5th one to go on a roof basket. Biscuit not going to cut it in the middle of nowhere on a rocky road.

Drove it down from Durban to Cape Town on about 600km of dirt road. Just because. Did an epic roadtrip in December with some jeep track mountain traverses and a couple of small river crossings. Just came back from Cederberg this weekend... Handles everything like a champ.

I had two colleagues with Foresters at my previous company, they both enjoyed them but moaned like heck about the fuel costs.
The one guy had endless issues with his, which is weird because Subaru has always been known for reliability.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

Fortuner would be my choice but the Everest is a good option too.
Great technical support country wide. Almost every dorpie has access to a Toyota dealer.
Great resale if you ever decide to move on.
Lots of aftermarket accessories.
Great support on 4x4 forums.
Amazing reliability when the vehicle is maintained correctly.
The Fortuner and Everest have rougher rides because they have body on frame chassis instead of the one piece monocoque setups that the other SUV's have.

Negatives are that the Everest or other cars look better both inside and outside.
I think the 3.2L Diesels perform slightly better than Toyota Diesels but I personally dont think they are as reliable as the Toyota Diesels.
Fortuner has dated infotainment setups.

400K is a great budget to get a great quality low mileage 2015 for less than that(+-R350K).
Or about the 2016/2017 version with higher mileage but they have really efficient and powerful 2.8L GD6 diesel.

If you want the very best reliability of all Fortuner and Everest models, I would look at the Fortuner 4L V6. The fuel economy is very heavy but the engine is near bullet proof and powers Land Cruisers and Prados to 100's of thousands of km's.
The diesel models are also very reliable and provide better fuel economy for a big vehicle but they have a lot more expensive parts that need to be maintained later down the line like injectors, turbos, diesel pumps, timing belts, etc. But this is 250k km into its life usually.

If you are just travelling run of the mill sand/dirt roads then you can look at most other brands SUV options.
But if there are deepish ruts and mud, I would probably stick with Fortuner or Everest.

If I was spending the money, I would get a diesel Fortuner 4x4 version. You might not ever need 4x4 if its just sand roads, but if the "overlanding" bug bites, then you will have everything you need to experience it as far as possible.

Thanks for all of that info.
I have watched quite a few local and Aussie reviews on Youtube that compare the Fortuner and Everest, all of them agree that the Everest drives a lot better than the Fortuner.
They all also agree that the 2.8 GD-6 is a more powerful and responsive engine than the 3.2 in the Everest.
In SA it seems the Fortuner holds it's value a lot better, its not a hard consideration but its also something in the back of my mind.

 

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Hey now! I like my garage floor to remain oil free and dont want to re-mortgage my house every time I drive it to pay for fuel
But yeah those things are stupid amounts of fun, my brother had one until he got tired of the fuel costs.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

I like the idea of a Forester or even an XV.
Fortuner is too much of a risk for me. Not sure about Everest.
Jimny is nice for 4x4 but for travelling 1000's of KM? No thanks.

I must check on the XV, I hadnt even considered that one. The forester might have improved in recent years, but the ones my colleagues had were very basic and had very little in the way of comfort features.
I drove a Jimny from PE - EL, 300km and I would never consider doing it again...

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I had two colleagues with Foresters at my previous company, they both enjoyed them but moaned like heck about the fuel costs.
The one guy had endless issues with his, which is weird because Subaru has always been known for reliability.

Fortuner and Everest will both be heavier on fuel. Dad has the 3.0D-4D and it chows, even on the highway you're looking at 9-10l/100km at the best case...

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I must check on the XV, I hadnt even considered that one. The forester might have improved in recent years, but the ones my colleagues had were very basic and had very little in the way of comfort features.
I drove a Jimny from PE - EL, 300km and I would never consider doing it again...

They're completely different cars from the earlier ones. Download the brochure on their site, go see one and test drive it...

 

[ebendl]

I'm in exactly the same scenario. Looking for a 4x4 SUV for between R400k and R450k.

Actually bought a Fortuner 2.8GD-6 4x4 2016 model with 100k on the clock, but the wife worried so much about it being stolen (on holiday), so I cancelled the deal near the end. Her sister (who camps a lot) told us stories about stopping at a pub in the middle of nowhere, and the Toyotas have to stop behind a special barricade with an extra guard to prevent them from being stolen. I've seen this myself in Pretoria (where they had the Toyotas drive into Rademeyers instead of letting them stop outside on the street.

The resale value on these are incredible. The guy who bought that Fortuner in 2016 bascially lost R100k of the value of the car! Same for reliability: My neighbour has a 2012 Fortuner with 320,000 km on the clock and they've never had major engine problems with it.

I also like the fact that you can remove the third-row seats of the Fortuner with a spanner -- yes, it looks sucky, but it gives you the space back. Not possible with the Isuzu MUX, the Ford Everest or the Pajero Sport.

Pajero Sport btw has a smaller boot than the rest, which is kinda a bummer.

I'm supposed to go and test-drive a couple of Everests next. I'm also not that trustworthy of a Ford doing 200,000+ km but people seem to love them.