Mike Hoxbig
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Still feels like a bakkie because of the chassis.
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Some of the more premium SUVs mentioned here drive like actual cars and have far more features...
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What should you drive if you answered yes to 50% of those?
Test drove a 2018 Ford Everest LTD tonight with 97,000km on the clock.
Unfortunately the previous owner messed up the interior a bit (looks like he transported raw wood on a dusty red dirt road somewhere) so I gave it a pass, but wow the thing is packed with features.
I guess this is where my practicality part comes in -- while it is great to have the third row seats collapse automatically at the push of a button, I can't help but worry that it will break at 150,000km with the seat halfway collapsed and unable to move by hand
Unfortunately the previous owner messed up the interior a bit (looks like he transported raw wood on a dusty red dirt road somewhere) so I gave it a pass, but wow the thing is packed with features.
I guess this is where my practicality part comes in -- while it is great to have the third row seats collapse automatically at the push of a button, I can't help but worry that it will break at 150,000km with the seat halfway collapsed and unable to move by hand
Far more features?
I've driven a ranger and everest and they quite different.
I've driven a fortuna and it honestly feels like a bakkie way more then the everest which was actually quite comfortable.
If you look at a 2017 everest limited you'd get Lane keep assist (the steering auto adjusts), adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring when changing lanes and when reversing, park assist (parallel parking)android auto, navigation, ambient interior lights, electric front seats, heated front seats.
That's the useful extras which for safety are very useful
TheChamp
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It does not feel like a unibody SUV or car but it also does not feel like a bakkie, it's somewhere in between, I feel Ford has done well with the suspension, coils instead of leaf springs make it more compliant, plus the shorter wheelbase makes things even more balanced.
The only thing that works against it is the ground clearance, but you need that for proper offroading.
KleinBoontjie
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Don't know how you're comparing, but in my experience, the Fortuner feels much more cramped compared to a CRV. I feel like I'm crammed into a small coffin, when I'm sitting in a Fortuner, my knees is pressed from the center column. Where with the CRV, there's just space all around. Even the luguage space in the CRV is like a 100liter plus, larger than the Fortuner.
pinball wizard
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If that's your criteria he needs to get a sooooped up Focu ST wif personalised plates. Something like DRPD GP or similar.
prod
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Not unique to only NA, last time I was in Namibia for 2 weeks I counted 1 Ford
This comes to mind:
TheChamp
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I think people gets confused by the huge exterior, the ladder frame chassis, solid diff and prop shaft takes up a lot of space, that's why there's even no room inside for the spare wheel.
So this is something that might simply be a sampling bias (I've only looked at two 2nd hand Everests and ~5 Fortuners), but is the interior of the Fortuner a little bit more rugged and can take a better beating?
Also -- which boot is bigger?
Everest LTD -- the back of the 2nd row literally had holes in the fabric. 2017 model with 100,000km on the clock.
Everest XLT: fabric at the back also looked a bit worn. See imprints on the back of the 2nd row seats. 2018 model with 100,000 km on the clock.
2018 Fortuner, ~60,000km on the clock. You can see some scuff-marks on the plastic guards where the 3rd row seats clip in, but the fabric doesn't look bad. And the back of the third row is the same leather (or pretend leather, but still, better than fabric).
Also -- which boot is bigger?
Everest LTD -- the back of the 2nd row literally had holes in the fabric. 2017 model with 100,000km on the clock.
Everest XLT: fabric at the back also looked a bit worn. See imprints on the back of the 2nd row seats. 2018 model with 100,000 km on the clock.
2018 Fortuner, ~60,000km on the clock. You can see some scuff-marks on the plastic guards where the 3rd row seats clip in, but the fabric doesn't look bad. And the back of the third row is the same leather (or pretend leather, but still, better than fabric).
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So this is something that might simply be a sampling bias (I've only looked at two 2nd hand Everests and ~5 Fortuners), but is the interior of the Fortuner a little bit more rugged and can take a better beating?
Also -- which boot is bigger?
Everest LTD -- the back of the 2nd row literally had holes in the fabric. 2017 model with 100,000km on the clock.
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Everest XLT: fabric at the back also looked a bit worn. See imprints on the back of the 2nd row seats. 2018 model with 100,000 km on the clock.
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2018 Fortuner, ~60,000km on the clock. You can see some scuff-marks on the plastic guards where the 3rd row seats clip in, but the fabric doesn't look bad. And the back of the third row is the same leather (or pretend leather, but still, better than fabric).
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Depends on how the car was looked after, I've seen cars (same model than mine as an example, with way less kilometers on) that are completely fcked inside for no apparent reason.
So for all the Forester pundits, are we talking about the CVT gearbox, what is it like? Have driven an ASX and CR-V and I disliked their CVT gearboxes a lot when driving long distances that I could never buy one.
I see no mention of a Rav4 - is this a viable option? Seems safe (Euroncap 5*...) and less of a hijacking threat than the Fortuner - obviously a lot smaller?
I see no mention of a Rav4 - is this a viable option? Seems safe (Euroncap 5*...) and less of a hijacking threat than the Fortuner - obviously a lot smaller?
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I have the CVT. On long distance cruising it's no different to any other gearbox. You hit top ratio and the RPMs sit at just over 2000 at 120km/h.
It's a pretty relaxing drive, to be honest. It just feels like you have a hectically slipping clutch when you accelerate - but you get used to it.
Mike Hoxbig
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It's still a CVT, but much better than it used to be. Multiple reviews cite it as being one of the best CVTs.
Moving on to interiors, how does the Fortuner and Everest compare?
Arzy
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Personally on to my 2nd Everest now and absolutely love it. The Limited is nice but the XLT really doesn't leave you wanting.
Only advice would be to avoid the old 2.2 engine. I moved from that to the 2l bi-turbo and the improvement is amazing.
Only advice would be to avoid the old 2.2 engine. I moved from that to the 2l bi-turbo and the improvement is amazing.
rh1
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This statement should be part of Toyota marketing!
Arzy
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On the resale point, think I posted in the Everest thread.
I bought my previous one new at the end of 2018, registered in 2019. Sold it a month or so ago with just shy of 70000 km's done.
Got R400k for it where I originally paid R456k.
So just over 10% decrease for 2 years and 70k km's.
I bought my previous one new at the end of 2018, registered in 2019. Sold it a month or so ago with just shy of 70000 km's done.
Got R400k for it where I originally paid R456k.
So just over 10% decrease for 2 years and 70k km's.
Gtx Gaming
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If you not in a hurry, a cvt box is great drove the eclipse 2.0 N/A CVT as a rental in JHB, it does a really good job of sucking up potholes, but it sluggish as hell. The CVT does not know what to do half of the time, all I wanted was POWER, all it was doing is revving up the engine and nothing really happened. It felt like I was waiting for a turbo to kick in, but it has no turbo and it was allready screaming 5000 rpm!