Fortuner, Everest or ...?

[Mike Hoxbig]

The suspension is way different though, especially on the Everest.

Still feels like a bakkie because of the chassis.

Some of the more premium SUVs mentioned here drive like actual cars and have far more features...

 

[Craig_]

Do you drive like a ****?

If "yes", then get the Fortuner or the Ford.

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[Crowley]

Do you wear a bomber jacket and live in Boksburg? Do you drink Brannas and listen to Worsie Visser ?

If yes then get the Ford

What should you drive if you answered yes to 50% of those?

 

[ebendl]

Test drove a 2018 Ford Everest LTD tonight with 97,000km on the clock.

Unfortunately the previous owner messed up the interior a bit (looks like he transported raw wood on a dusty red dirt road somewhere) so I gave it a pass, but wow the thing is packed with features.

I guess this is where my practicality part comes in -- while it is great to have the third row seats collapse automatically at the push of a button, I can't help but worry that it will break at 150,000km with the seat halfway collapsed and unable to move by hand

 

[Sayf777]

Still feels like a bakkie because of the chassis.

Some of the more premium SUVs mentioned here drive like actual cars and have far more features...

Far more features?

I've driven a ranger and everest and they quite different.

I've driven a fortuna and it honestly feels like a bakkie way more then the everest which was actually quite comfortable.

If you look at a 2017 everest limited you'd get Lane keep assist (the steering auto adjusts), adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring when changing lanes and when reversing, park assist (parallel parking)android auto, navigation, ambient interior lights, electric front seats, heated front seats.
That's the useful extras which for safety are very useful

 

[TheChamp]

Still feels like a bakkie because of the chassis.

Some of the more premium SUVs mentioned here drive like actual cars and have far more features...

It does not feel like a unibody SUV or car but it also does not feel like a bakkie, it's somewhere in between, I feel Ford has done well with the suspension, coils instead of leaf springs make it more compliant, plus the shorter wheelbase makes things even more balanced.

The only thing that works against it is the ground clearance, but you need that for proper offroading.

 

[KleinBoontjie]

Enter the Fortuner and Everest, which are a lot more solid and have a lot more space.

Don't know how you're comparing, but in my experience, the Fortuner feels much more cramped compared to a CRV. I feel like I'm crammed into a small coffin, when I'm sitting in a Fortuner, my knees is pressed from the center column. Where with the CRV, there's just space all around. Even the luguage space in the CRV is like a 100liter plus, larger than the Fortuner.

 

[pinball wizard]

Do you wear a bomber jacket and live in Boksburg? Do you drink Brannas and listen to Worsie Visser ?

If yes then get the Ford

If that's your criteria he needs to get a sooooped up Focu ST wif personalised plates. Something like DRPD GP or similar.

 

[prod]

There is a reason why people here in North America dont really use Fords as overlanding vehicles... go figure...

Not unique to only NA, last time I was in Namibia for 2 weeks I counted 1 Ford

This comes to mind:

 

[TheChamp]

Don't know how you're comparing, but in my experience, the Fortuner feels much more cramped compared to a CRV. I feel like I'm crammed into a small coffin, when I'm sitting in a Fortuner, my knees is pressed from the center column. Where with the CRV, there's just space all around. Even the luguage space in the CRV is like a 100liter plus, larger than the Fortuner.

I think people gets confused by the huge exterior, the ladder frame chassis, solid diff and prop shaft takes up a lot of space, that's why there's even no room inside for the spare wheel.

 

[ebendl]

So this is something that might simply be a sampling bias (I've only looked at two 2nd hand Everests and ~5 Fortuners), but is the interior of the Fortuner a little bit more rugged and can take a better beating?

Also -- which boot is bigger?

Everest LTD -- the back of the 2nd row literally had holes in the fabric. 2017 model with 100,000km on the clock.



Everest XLT: fabric at the back also looked a bit worn. See imprints on the back of the 2nd row seats. 2018 model with 100,000 km on the clock.



2018 Fortuner, ~60,000km on the clock. You can see some scuff-marks on the plastic guards where the 3rd row seats clip in, but the fabric doesn't look bad. And the back of the third row is the same leather (or pretend leather, but still, better than fabric).

 

[Craig_]

So this is something that might simply be a sampling bias (I've only looked at two 2nd hand Everests and ~5 Fortuners), but is the interior of the Fortuner a little bit more rugged and can take a better beating?

Also -- which boot is bigger?

Everest LTD -- the back of the 2nd row literally had holes in the fabric. 2017 model with 100,000km on the clock.

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Everest XLT: fabric at the back also looked a bit worn. See imprints on the back of the 2nd row seats. 2018 model with 100,000 km on the clock.

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2018 Fortuner, ~60,000km on the clock. You can see some scuff-marks on the plastic guards where the 3rd row seats clip in, but the fabric doesn't look bad. And the back of the third row is the same leather (or pretend leather, but still, better than fabric).

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Depends on how the car was looked after, I've seen cars (same model than mine as an example, with way less kilometers on) that are completely fcked inside for no apparent reason.

 

[mrmrrza]

So for all the Forester pundits, are we talking about the CVT gearbox, what is it like? Have driven an ASX and CR-V and I disliked their CVT gearboxes a lot when driving long distances that I could never buy one.

I see no mention of a Rav4 - is this a viable option? Seems safe (Euroncap 5*...) and less of a hijacking threat than the Fortuner - obviously a lot smaller?

 

[Sinbad]

So for all the Forester pundits, are we talking about the CVT gearbox, what is it like? Have driven an ASX and CR-V and I disliked their CVT gearboxes a lot when driving long distances that I could never buy one.

I see no mention of a Rav4 - is this a viable option? Seems safe (Euroncap 5*...) and less of a hijacking threat than the Fortuner - obviously a lot smaller?

I have the CVT. On long distance cruising it's no different to any other gearbox. You hit top ratio and the RPMs sit at just over 2000 at 120km/h.
It's a pretty relaxing drive, to be honest. It just feels like you have a hectically slipping clutch when you accelerate - but you get used to it.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

So for all the Forester pundits, are we talking about the CVT gearbox, what is it like? Have driven an ASX and CR-V and I disliked their CVT gearboxes a lot when driving long distances that I could never buy one.

I see no mention of a Rav4 - is this a viable option? Seems safe (Euroncap 5*...) and less of a hijacking threat than the Fortuner - obviously a lot smaller?

It's still a CVT, but much better than it used to be. Multiple reviews cite it as being one of the best CVTs.

Moving on to interiors, how does the Fortuner and Everest compare?

 

[Arzy]

Personally on to my 2nd Everest now and absolutely love it. The Limited is nice but the XLT really doesn't leave you wanting.

Only advice would be to avoid the old 2.2 engine. I moved from that to the 2l bi-turbo and the improvement is amazing.

 

[rh1]

Fortuner is hijack friendly but holds a better resale value than the Everest.

This statement should be part of Toyota marketing!

 

[Arzy]

On the resale point, think I posted in the Everest thread.

I bought my previous one new at the end of 2018, registered in 2019. Sold it a month or so ago with just shy of 70000 km's done.

Got R400k for it where I originally paid R456k.

So just over 10% decrease for 2 years and 70k km's.

 

[bwana]

The OP is from East London

You need a SUV there with all the potholes.

Except the ones they’ve “fixed”

 

[Gtx Gaming]

So for all the Forester pundits, are we talking about the CVT gearbox, what is it like? Have driven an ASX and CR-V and I disliked their CVT gearboxes a lot when driving long distances that I could never buy one.

I see no mention of a Rav4 - is this a viable option? Seems safe (Euroncap 5*...) and less of a hijacking threat than the Fortuner - obviously a lot smaller?

If you not in a hurry, a cvt box is great drove the eclipse 2.0 N/A CVT as a rental in JHB, it does a really good job of sucking up potholes, but it sluggish as hell. The CVT does not know what to do half of the time, all I wanted was POWER, all it was doing is revving up the engine and nothing really happened. It felt like I was waiting for a turbo to kick in, but it has no turbo and it was allready screaming 5000 rpm!