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Armizael

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Logged in on my IS stats page this morning to find someone else is using my account.

Interesting.

Especially since i run a PPPOE connection from my pc.

So, has anyone had any luck reporting these guys?
I have the port number and such, was wondering if I should report it to the police.

After giving them a beating.
 
Now how would somebody get your details? I'd understand if it was an employee of IS, but if it was someone else its probably just your own fault.
 
That's what I was wondering about.

I ordered the account yesterday anyway. No-one else has had access to the info cept me and the ISP.
 
Then contact IS and confront them, and by the way dont do it by email cause they dont respond.
 
Kloon said:
Now how would somebody get your details? I'd understand if it was an employee of IS, but if it was someone else its probably just your own fault.
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So if someone breaks into your house and robs you its probably your own fault?

There's a sticky somewhere on here detailing the procedure.
 
Well who would break into your house and steal your account details? And in our country you should know better to secure your house as much as possible.
 
Kloon said:
Well who would break into your house and steal your account details? And in our country you should know better to secure your house as much as possible.
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You are missing his point.

And yes, I know about the sticky, but I'm not even going to report it if other people haven't had any luck with it. Would just be a waste of my time.

I have sorted the account for now, I hope. Got the password changed and such.
The only thing is, if the person could have access to my previous details, why wouldn't he be able to access my new ones?
 
I know what your talking about, you dont know if that person will be able to get you details again. One should think that a company as IS would have security in place to protect its clients. But say you forgot your password, how will you get it without it being available to someone from IS? So id day your details will always be available to certain employees, so your always have that risk.
 
This I can understand and it's an acceptable risk I guess.
I'll keep an eye on it today and if there's another session from that port, I'll know it's something dodge, seeing as I had my password changed over the phone.
 
Armizael said:
You are missing his point.

And yes, I know about the sticky, but I'm not even going to report it if other people haven't had any luck with it. Would just be a waste of my time.

I have sorted the account for now, I hope. Got the password changed and such.
The only thing is, if the person could have access to my previous details, why wouldn't he be able to access my new ones?
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Dominic posted an article today about how people are actually being prosecuted for it etc. now. Hopefully that'll deter people. Can't find it to link to it now though. Make sure you've got all your firewalls on etc.

Edit: Found the article:

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=64501
 
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Kloon said:
Well who would break into your house and steal your account details? And in our country you should know better to secure your house as much as possible.
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I was making a general point. Yes you should secure your house as much as possible but unfortunately breakins sometimes do happen anyway, physical or virtual. I just don't like this mentality of blaming the victim.
 
Which ISP?
Syndyre said:
I was making a general point. Yes you should secure your house as much as possible but unfortunately breakins sometimes do happen anyway, physical or virtual. I just don't like this mentality of blaming the victim.
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About securing things - it makes me think of that Canadian woman in Bowling for Columbine (I think). Here she was so proud that she didnt lock her doors at night - never mind that she's been burgled something 3 times. All she had to do was lock the door. :eek:
 
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@ Armizael: Report them to the Police...ahahahhahahahahahahaha...Yes its stealing but lets think about this..how hard/easy do you think it will be for you to explain the situation to the police...You say....I would like to erport a case of theft......they say..what was stollen..you say that someone logged onto your internet account and used it....they cops ask...."what was stollen"..you explain "that you have abndwith that you pay for and someone else broke into your account and stole some of your bandwidth". The cops asks.."where did they break into again?"...you try and explain that essentially what was stollen was information.....the cops ask you whether you cellphone was stollen....you become angry and ebcome aggressive towards the cops..they get angry right back and tell you to calm down....the cops telling you to calm down irritates you even more so you shout even louder...the cops knock you on the head and throw you in jail..you sit in jail while the cops joke and laugh.....SO NO!! dont even bother....maybe if you could find a cop that knew what the electric internet was...maybe then....
 
I've read that the way these Bandwidth Thieves get caught is by being careless. When they first start off with their Hacked Accounts, they make sure they use little bandwidth and spend short periods of time on someones account.

After a while they get lazy and use one account for a day. This ends up in the victim noticing and a chance of thief getting prosecuted.

However, I really doubt anyone In S.A. will actually catch them. Firstly, chances are they won't be smart enough to find his whereabouts and secondly if the police do find their whereabouts, chances are they will be too lazy to take action. ;)
 
Kloon said:
One should think that a company as IS would have security in place to protect its clients. But say you forgot your password, how will you get it without it being available to someone from IS?
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If they are using a properly secured authentication system then you passwords would be stored as hash'es. With a hash it is only possible to encrypt the password - decryption requires a supercomputer (a little overkill for an ADSL account). When a login attempt is made - the password that you submit is hash'ed and then compared with the hash that has been stored. Therefore there is no way to determine your password from data stored on the authentication server.

If you loose your password then it has to be reset and thus a new hash is generated in the authentication DB. Of course if some one did this to your account to try access it you would know about it as you would no longer be able to login.

This of course is assuming that your ISP actually runs a secure authentication server :D
 
To add to my previous post....I'm sure that bandwidth theft will reduce drastically if Telkom would just lower their bandwidth charges ;)

That is wat is mostly causing this to occur in South Africa the first place
 
So Peppercorns, if a Ferrari is too expensive for a person, he should go steal someone elses?
 
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