Free Microsoft antivirus software to enter beta testing

Ill give it a try. They made a program to fix their program. Lol.
 
Errm they made a program to stop other programs breaking their program, your thinking of a bug program that fixes issues not an anti virus but yea i'm just trolling you again no doubt :p
 
I suppose even Linux has AV`s... not that you need them except when dealing with Windows File Shares.
 
Well i think you will find when linux does gather momentum that the anti virus companies will start developing virus's for them so you will need anti virus one day for linux. When i say gather momentum i mean when 20-40% of people use linux.
 
About time...
I'm sick of winduhs users asking me to get rid of viruses on their PCs

they keep installing trojan cracks for their pirated software :mad:
 
killadoob said:
Well i think you will find when linux does gather momentum that the anti virus companies will start developing virus's for them so you will need anti virus one day for linux.
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..and here I thought it was Chinese/Russian/Eastern European (hacker and government hacker cartals) countries who wrote (exploited weakness`s in the windows code and how MS manages security.. that MS sometimes takes years to patch) most of the virus`s out there (for identiy theft, spamming, dDOS attacks, spying, espionage, bribery)... never crossed my mind to blame the anti-virus vendors. Nope I dont think its them behind all of this...

Though Ill give you 10 points for Symantec products in favour of your theory.
 
Ok sorry i am confused here, is there a difference between a virus and someone spying on your pc?

I thought virus's mess up windows and spying does not but tracks your movements as such.

Why would people who spy want to make you format your pc? makes no sense lol, so you think virus companies can identify every new virus out there, know when they are going to land because other people feed them info? these people you speak of that spy do they make the virus's that infected and corrupt windows? would make spying far harder when people are always reloading their pc's and having to fix them :p
 
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One of the main reasons that so few viruses for Linux are in the wild is because Linux vulnerabilities are patched almost as soon as they are discovered. And Linux is meant to be configured to not let rogue programs (viruses) make unauthorised changes.
 
w1z4rd said:
..and here I thought it was Chinese/Russian/Eastern European (hacker and government hacker cartals) countries who wrote (exploited weakness`s in the windows code and how MS manages security.. that MS sometimes takes years to patch) most of the virus`s out there (for identiy theft, spamming, dDOS attacks, spying, espionage, bribery)... never crossed my mind to blame the anti-virus vendors. Nope I dont think its them behind all of this...

Though Ill give you 10 points for Symantec products in favour of your theory.
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bwahaha :D
 
killadoob said:
Ok sorry i am confused here, is there a difference between a virus and someone spying on your pc?

I thought virus's mess up windows and spying does not but tracks your movements as such.

Why would people who spy want to make you format your pc? makes no sense lol, so you think virus companies can identify every new virus out there, know when they are going to land because other people feed them info?
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Virus is most likely a bad word to use. Its but one part of a broader base of attacks. Malware is a better word. Malware today comes smart. It uses virus`s, worms, trojans, rootkits to exploit MS security and its policies to take control of that system. I would say 95% of your virus infections are designed to turn your system into a zombie. To join something like Storm or Torpig.

Virus`s that actually damage computers are not as common these days. There is financial gain in rooting a persons personal computer and criminal cartels have caught onto this.



sn3rd said:
One of the main reasons that so few viruses for Linux are in the wild is because Linux vulnerabilities are patched almost as soon as they are discovered. And Linux is meant to be configured to not let rogue programs (viruses) make unauthorised changes.
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I blame slow patching from MS and its security policy on pirated versions of MS Windows. You cant security patch those pirated versions of Windows easily... and every kid with a computer in a 3rd world country seems to have a pirated version of SP1 full of warez and completely rooted.
 
Well think about it, virus companies exist only to stop virus's so in theory their entire operation is based on the fact they stop virus's on your pc.

So it makes logical sense you would want to protect their business so i would imagine it is not unthinkable that they create their own market to keep their business in business :).
 
killadoob said:
Well think about it, virus companies exist only to stop virus's so in theory their entire operation is based on the fact they stop virus's on your pc.

So it makes logical sense you would want to protect their business so i would imagine it is not unthinkable that they create their own market to keep their business in business :).
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I understand your thinking, but I know the reality.

Remember how many machines blaster nailed?
http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2003/08/va_blaster.html

That was for a dDos attack on MS.

I was reading about how torpig works.. thats a couple of million infected machines right now... its stolen over 500 000 peoples banking logins and details.

A university team highjacked torpig for a couple of days and got over 70GB of stolen personal information. Email logins, bank details, anything you do online or are your PC....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpig

Theres big money in this, and smart people in poor countries are figuring this out. To these cartels a broken computer is a useless computer. Feel free to google the stats on this kinda malware. Its the most common form of malware out there.

Other major botnets comprising millions and millions of rooted MS boxes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken_botnet
The researchers say that Kraken has infected machines in at least 50 of the Fortune 500 companies and has grown to over 400,000 bots.[1] It is estimated to send 9 billion spam messages per day. The Kraken botnet malware may have been designed to evade anti-virus software, and is apparently virtually undetectable to conventional anti-virus software.[2]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_botnet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker

Now those are just the botnets for greed. China, Russia and America maintain their own botnets for cyber warfare.
 
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