Free Wi-Fi in Stellenbosch project problems

Why oh why? How about just getting some free wifi in Khayamanda and such, forget the middle of town.
 
Meanwhile WUGs (Wireless User Groups) continue to grow and spread.

The word idiots does not even begin to cover such failure so far.
 
Sadly, the progress of this project, as well as the high expectations that many people seem to have had of it, highlight some of the realities of telecoms services that seem often to be misunderstood, most notably by idealists and politicians in South Africa.

On the face of it, other than utopian fantasy, there is no reason to believe that a project to deliver free services, jointly funded by a declining, loss-making company and a somewhat naive local municipality, based on the assumption that telecoms infrastructure is exceptionally cheap to deploy and simple to maintain, would ever succeed. This is no Google in Kansas City - in that case, it's clear to see where the money and project management is coming from.

Free WiFi (i.e. some hubs) would be a great idea, and may even have worked, if it weren't for the fact that that is not what is being deployed. What is being deployed is free global Internet connectivity, with free backhaul links to lampposts, and free support and maintenance - there's nothing free about this at all, it's just subsidised. It's also not a community effort, with everyone paying for their bit, like a WUG, and even if it were a WUG, it still wouldn't actually be offering free global Internet connectivity.

Whether you like it or not, the elements that have driven the massive growth of telecoms - sound, profitable business models, and competition - are entirely absent from this project. You might as well suggest that everyone get free utility services from the municipality - who is actually paying for this in the long term, when mxit realises that it's just another hole in their increasingly leaky bucket?

That's not to say that disruptive approaches, especially lower cost approaches, cannot work. It's just that they need to make some business sense, or they are doomed to failure.
 
Google has learnt the lesson in the US that wireless is a finite and they switched to fiber like they have done in Kansas.
Unfortunately government does not know this and even competent ones like WA will fall into the trap that WiFi does not work for mass rollout. We already have pink elephants on which billions have been spent like the Joburg Broadband project and in the end only a handful of people use it. Stellenbosch will end up having just a few wifi hotpots in cofeeshops and the project cost wont be justified

We as forum members should push the agenda of fiber for the last mile.
 
Jointly making a statement of the roll-out and then a year later stating we need to appoint someone to look at the feasibility, etc. Don't you do this BEFORE making a statement about roll-out? Time to call my representative and make him start earning my vote.
 
It sounds like we are still missing a few facts from the roll-out... and taking a negative approach it sounds like someone is not receiving their bribe, or has not yet received a monetary stake in the roll-out to make it worth their while to allow the installations of APs and provide internet to the broader community.

In SA I see so many go-getters, wanting to make a difference and willing to be bold but constantly having to battle individuals in power and in many cases failing due to the system, not their ability or willingness... so frustrating!
 
If the project has zero commercial(profit) potential, it will be very hard to attract investors... why exactly would they invest for no return? I think Mxit's got bigger problems at the mo as well...
 
Google has learnt the lesson in the US that wireless is a finite and they switched to fiber like they have done in Kansas.
Unfortunately government does not know this and even competent ones like WA will fall into the trap that WiFi does not work for mass rollout. We already have pink elephants on which billions have been spent like the Joburg Broadband project and in the end only a handful of people use it. Stellenbosch will end up having just a few wifi hotpots in cofeeshops and the project cost wont be justified

We as forum members should push the agenda of fiber for the last mile.
Stellenbosch muni should be looking to put in piping to each lampost for fibre, they have to run power cables, so they are trenching. I watched a whole series of new lamposts going in, trenching and all with no thought to putting in an empty tube or talking to telecoms to share costs. Crazy.

Jointly making a statement of the roll-out and then a year later stating we need to appoint someone to look at the feasibility, etc. Don't you do this BEFORE making a statement about roll-out? Time to call my representative and make him start earning my vote.

Ja, I thought they had the model figured out, seems it was not quite there - at least just allow access to the lamposts for mounting equipment and a bit of power.
 
The real problem is that they destroying their relationship with the city as they request permission to install 4 antennas and when the city inspects then they put up 16.
 
Sigh, if you cant do something properly dont do it at all.

They should have put out a tender for rollout and managed services for 5 years, gotten a fixed cost figure and made the managed services partner pick up all this headache...
 
I just won myself a very large bet, taken when the original free thing was announced

(Unfortunately I couldn't find an optimist to bet against, so had to bet with myself)
 
Believe it...

I just won myself a very large bet, taken when the original free thing was announced

(Unfortunately I couldn't find an optimist to bet against, so had to bet with myself)

Come bet against me. :love:

The solution is so close you can almost reach out and touch it. Patience, Danielson. We've been waiting... The media has been waiting... the public has been polite, to put it mildly...

I'll be blunt. Some people only work for money, and if there's any amount of smoke and mirrors that can get them more of it, they'll push it. Luckily that does not include everyone.
 
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