Theres a good, and free, app called canonsglens that includes info on all of their current lenses/bodies. The app includes a dof calculator.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/canonsglens/id490527073?mt=8
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Theres a good, and free, app called canonsglens that includes info on all of their current lenses/bodies. The app includes a dof calculator.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/canonsglens/id490527073?mt=8
nanonyous
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I'm seeing a lot of wasted money. Guess I'm just going to give up - stubborn people will be stubborn...
nanonyous
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Right, as I said, wasted money. Camera manual. Internet.
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Wasted money......stubborn.....because you dared follow other people's advise and not exclusively his. :wtf:
I personally love the way you approach this; reading up as much as you can (be it on the internet, books, magazines, e-zines). Learn as much as you can. And then practice it.
nanonyous
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She's not the stubborn one, actually. You guys are the stubborn ones.
But please, feel free to keep recommending she buy magazines to give her exactly the same information she can easily find on the internet. Keep recommending books with potentially harmful, not useful, information. Keep recommending books that won't teach her anything more than the last book she already bought would, which doesn't really teach anything more than her camera manual does.
Keep stubbornly giving suggestions for things to waste money on rather than pointing to free resources that are more useful.
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Oh I forgot, all information on the interwebz can be trusted.
I'd rather she read one of Scott Kelby's (expensive) books than Ken Rockwell's (free!) site.
And let's face it: camera manuals are confusing as hell.
nanonyous
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Oh I forgot, all information on the interwebz can be trusted.
I'd rather she read one of Scott Kelby's (expensive) books than Ken Rockwell's (free!) site.
And let's face it: camera manuals are confusing as hell.
I have the 500D manual, it's straight forward, to the point, easy to understand and is more relevant to learning how to use the camera than two of the books that have already been bought are. As for information on the internet, you say that as though the exact same thing can't be said of books - but get this, those books aren't free.
Stubborn.
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I shall henceforth acknowledge that I am, indeed, stubborn. On your recommendation nonetheless.
I thank you for identifying this personality trait.
Just don't expect me to change it.
Now that we have that out of the way, relax. Take a Valium (2 works better). And accept not everybody is going to follow your advise.
And if Nicci does decide to follow your advise instead of ours, believe me we will cope. I don't know her from a bar of soap so whether she follows your, mine or anybody else's advise will not cause me (and I assume any of the others) any emotional distress.
Now do carry on. I promise I won't converse with you again, nor shall I offer advise on this or any other thread. If Nicci, or anybody else for that matter, do want my input, they know how to contact me.
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See, the problem is that while you may abstain at this point from telling people to buy things, that doesn't mean other people (not necessarily in this thread - everywhere on the internet and in the world in general) won't be doing the same. Everyone has a greasy little salesman inside of them that just wants people to make their purchase decisions based on their advice. I'm not different. The only difference is that having grown up without money and without making a whole lot of it, I've had to do things the free way for most of my life and have learned how beneficial it can be.
Spend thousands of rands on ****ty (yes, ****ty) courses and books now or use an internet connection you already have available to you to get exactly the same thing in far greater quantities for cross-referencing. The biggest joke is that, again, not everyone's advice is going to be 'the best'. Everyone is going to be giving false information somewhere or teaching bad habits elsewhere. Having available to you free resources as opposed to a limited scope of paid resources allows you to compare the information available to you and determine for yourself which is the most sound, however.
Which is why I keep suggesting that before someone who doesn't necessarily know how to use their new camera from a hardware perspective goes out and buys books teaching them how to use something kinda-sorta-related to it, they should instead be focusing on how to use that specific tool and then learning about techniques they can apply to their use of that tool.
Tom Ang - Digital Photography Masterclass
101 Great Things to do with your Digital Camera
How to Photograph Absolutely Everything
I have as example these three books. They were paid for - not by me, by a friend and family - and given to me as presents.
I have read through all three of them. Tom Ang is or was a washout photographer - he doesn't seem to understand about white-balance in the least.
The other book is great if you've got a compact or bridge camera and want to learn how to take holiday snapshots that won't come out black or white from extreme under or over exposure because of not understanding the most basic concepts of metering and limitations of image capture qualities. Otherwise, also a useless book.
I feel sorry for those that bought these books for me. I really appreciated the gesture since they wanted to buy me photography related books, but had I known they would misinterpret when I said 'photo books such as those with work by Ansel Adams or William Eggleston', I'd have been able to save them money while still appreciating their gesture. Now instead I have three books lying here that I would not want anyone starting out with any kind of camera to read, because they're damaging books.
This is why I find the notion of suggesting someone go out and buy books and, worse, 'review magazines', to be wasteful and the adherence to the concept stubborn. Free resources and a capable head on one's shoulders will always have the potential to be more valuable and useful.
*edit* Looks like Tom Ang still is a washout 'photographer'. I've seen kids 5-8 years old that don't know anything about 'photography' take better photos more consistently than him - and people like him are publishing 'best-selling' books that will 'teach' you how to 'take better photos' (read: take photos like theirs, which are terrible)
Spend thousands of rands on ****ty (yes, ****ty) courses and books now or use an internet connection you already have available to you to get exactly the same thing in far greater quantities for cross-referencing. The biggest joke is that, again, not everyone's advice is going to be 'the best'. Everyone is going to be giving false information somewhere or teaching bad habits elsewhere. Having available to you free resources as opposed to a limited scope of paid resources allows you to compare the information available to you and determine for yourself which is the most sound, however.
Which is why I keep suggesting that before someone who doesn't necessarily know how to use their new camera from a hardware perspective goes out and buys books teaching them how to use something kinda-sorta-related to it, they should instead be focusing on how to use that specific tool and then learning about techniques they can apply to their use of that tool.
Tom Ang - Digital Photography Masterclass
101 Great Things to do with your Digital Camera
How to Photograph Absolutely Everything
I have as example these three books. They were paid for - not by me, by a friend and family - and given to me as presents.
I have read through all three of them. Tom Ang is or was a washout photographer - he doesn't seem to understand about white-balance in the least.
The other book is great if you've got a compact or bridge camera and want to learn how to take holiday snapshots that won't come out black or white from extreme under or over exposure because of not understanding the most basic concepts of metering and limitations of image capture qualities. Otherwise, also a useless book.
I feel sorry for those that bought these books for me. I really appreciated the gesture since they wanted to buy me photography related books, but had I known they would misinterpret when I said 'photo books such as those with work by Ansel Adams or William Eggleston', I'd have been able to save them money while still appreciating their gesture. Now instead I have three books lying here that I would not want anyone starting out with any kind of camera to read, because they're damaging books.
This is why I find the notion of suggesting someone go out and buy books and, worse, 'review magazines', to be wasteful and the adherence to the concept stubborn. Free resources and a capable head on one's shoulders will always have the potential to be more valuable and useful.
*edit* Looks like Tom Ang still is a washout 'photographer'. I've seen kids 5-8 years old that don't know anything about 'photography' take better photos more consistently than him - and people like him are publishing 'best-selling' books that will 'teach' you how to 'take better photos' (read: take photos like theirs, which are terrible)
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That would be a pity. There are always going to be differing opinions in this section and there are generally plenty of ways to skin a cat.
Browbeating and berating other forum members for offering advice that contrary to ones own however is not acceptable. I hope that is clearly understood by all. Capisce? I have no qualms requesting such members be excluded from the section.
That would be a pity. There are always going to be differing opinions in this section and there are generally plenty of ways to skin a cat.
Browbeating and berating other forum members for offering advice that contrary to ones own however is not acceptable. I hope that is clearly understood by all. Capisce? I have no qualms requesting such members be excluded from the section.
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nanonyous
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So being frank is 'browbeating and berating'?
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(Disclaimer: I have no idea how experienced Nicci is with photography in general, so my comments below will assume absolute beginner)
I'll second this. Read this one first. And second and third. Understanding how exposure works is the best thing you can learn. Most of what you learn in digital photography after that is what happens on the computer.
I'll second, third and fourth that too.
I'll second this. Read this one first. And second and third. Understanding how exposure works is the best thing you can learn. Most of what you learn in digital photography after that is what happens on the computer.
I'll second, third and fourth that too.
+1That would be a pity. There are always going to be differing opinions in this section and there are generally plenty of ways to skin a cat.
Browbeating and berating other forum members for offering advice that contrary to ones own however is not acceptable. I hope that is clearly understood by all. Capisce? I have no qualms requesting such members be excluded from the section.
That would be a pity. There are always going to be differing opinions in this section and there are generally plenty of ways to skin a cat.
Browbeating and berating other forum members for offering advice that contrary to ones own however is not acceptable. I hope that is clearly understood by all. Capisce? I have no qualms requesting such members be excluded from the section.
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So, I went to buy a Tripod today at Orms. http://www.manfrotto.com/294-aluminum-tripod-3-sections
They have it on Special!!! Only paid like R1300 or something. I also bought a bag, Lowepro Adventura 170 shoulder bag!!!
I want to buy the Zoom lens now - as I do LOVE zoom photography, where I can zoom in close to the animals! That is my favourite, so the lens I want to get is http://www.ormsdirect.co.za/canon-ef-70-300mm-f-4-5-6-is-usm-lens Is that a good lens for nice zoom?
They have it on Special!!! Only paid like R1300 or something. I also bought a bag, Lowepro Adventura 170 shoulder bag!!!
I want to buy the Zoom lens now - as I do LOVE zoom photography, where I can zoom in close to the animals! That is my favourite, so the lens I want to get is http://www.ormsdirect.co.za/canon-ef-70-300mm-f-4-5-6-is-usm-lens Is that a good lens for nice zoom?
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Good beginner's tripod. Can support up to 5kg so nothing wrong with that. What head does it have on (ball-head, 3-way or what)?
I'll hang on to the "zoom lens" for now if I were you. There's too much you have to learn before you'll be able to make an informed decision on what lens to buy (refer my email to you earlier today).
Did you remember to get a head for that tripod?
Can't tell you much about that lens having never shot with it. I can recommend the next one on that site - the 70-200 f/4 L is a surpurb lens but it might not be long enough for you.
Can't tell you much about that lens having never shot with it. I can recommend the next one on that site - the 70-200 f/4 L is a surpurb lens but it might not be long enough for you.