General Plasma & LCD discussions

[Tom242]

Yeah, personally for me, 40" is just fine from 2m. If you're predominantly going to be watching SD DSTV channels, theres little point is stretching the same 720x576 pixels across another 6" or 11".

Depends on how finicky you are about PQ/motion clarity, but I would go to a store that has the D6000 (LED/200Hz) & the D550 (LCD/50Hz) near each other to see if the D6000 really provides a tangible/noticable improvement for you (PQ/motion/3D etc). If not I'd get the D550 and spend the diff on a HDPVR2P, which provides a much crisper SD DSTV picture over HDMI (+ bonus of HD channels if you have a premium sub).

I bought the TV, and I am generally very happy with it. The size is also perfect for me.
HD content is great, even SABC via Aerial is not too bad. Worst pic quality is atm from my DSTV decoder (although its German bouquet only, that is why I have to watch SABC via Aerial connection). The decoder is connected through RCA to my Amp (no HDMI!) and the output is connected to the TV through the RCA cable.

Is the pic quality that much better through the HD PVR, maybe even close to a 720p quality? I won't be watching HD TV for a while, at least as long as the German bouquet is not in HD

 

[PostmanPot]

I bought the TV, and I am generally very happy with it. The size is also perfect for me.
HD content is great, even SABC via Aerial is not too bad. Worst pic quality is atm from my DSTV decoder (although its German bouquet only, that is why I have to watch SABC via Aerial connection). The decoder is connected through RCA to my Amp (no HDMI!) and the output is connected to the TV through the RCA cable.

Is the pic quality that much better through the HD PVR, maybe even close to a 720p quality? I won't be watching HD TV for a while, at least as long as the German bouquet is not in HD

Yes it is better via HDMI (HD PVR).

No, it won't be like 720p quality, lol.

I assume you did not get plasma because you have a lot of full HD content. Or you have a very bright room, etc.

Because otherwise, plasma would have been better.

 

[Tim182]

I bought the TV, and I am generally very happy with it. The size is also perfect for me.
HD content is great, even SABC via Aerial is not too bad. Worst pic quality is atm from my DSTV decoder (although its German bouquet only, that is why I have to watch SABC via Aerial connection). The decoder is connected through RCA to my Amp (no HDMI!) and the output is connected to the TV through the RCA cable.

Is the pic quality that much better through the HD PVR, maybe even close to a 720p quality? I won't be watching HD TV for a while, at least as long as the German bouquet is not in HD

It will look much better on the HD PVR. The German Bouquet feed is quite a high bitrate. Not quite 720p quality but very food. Use HDMI where possible. And don't let other people spoil your purchase. Its a great TV, some people prefer the Plasma, others the LCD. Both have advantages and disadvantages but both are very good at what they do. They just do it differently. So just enjoy it

 

[PostmanPot]

It will look much better on the HD PVR. The German Bouquet feed is quite a high bitrate. Not quite 720p quality but very food. Use HDMI where possible. And don't let other people spoil your purchase. Its a great TV, some people prefer the Plasma, others the LCD. Both have advantages and disadvantages but both are very good at what they do. They just do it differently. So just enjoy it

Uh, for TV (esp. SD) plasma is better, it's a fact you cannot argue with.

The only legs entry LCD stands on are when it's used for computer work or in a bright room.

They do it differently that's for sure - entry LCD has washed out colours, poor blacks, motion lag, less forgiving for SD feeds... No need to go on.

 

[Tim182]

Bla bla... And none of that is true. Completely overexaggerated as usual

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[Tom242]

It will look much better on the HD PVR. The German Bouquet feed is quite a high bitrate. Not quite 720p quality but very food. Use HDMI where possible. And don't let other people spoil your purchase. Its a great TV, some people prefer the Plasma, others the LCD. Both have advantages and disadvantages but both are very good at what they do. They just do it differently. So just enjoy it

no, I love the new TV....and I just wanted to check if the HD PVR would improve the pic quality. I will buy it soon and give feedback

 

[PostmanPot]

Bla bla... And none of that is true. Completely overexaggerated as usual

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Cheer up, tough dealing with facts, but I'm sure you'll get over it seeing as you don't even watch SD TV, nor even own a DSTV or any digital decoder IIRC...

I'd rather trust those who do those things, or who have both techs or at least experience with both...

 

[ToxicBunny]

PP, the whole LCD/Plasma thing is getting tired and old now.. please stop...

We get that you love your plasma, but its not the be all and end all of TV technology (even at the low end of the market).... what people prefer will be different from what you prefer, and some people have different motives when buying certain technologies

 

[PostmanPot]

PP, the whole LCD/Plasma thing is getting tired and old now.. please stop...

It would only be fair if you tell that to our friend Tim as well.

We get that you love your plasma, but its not the be all and end all of TV technology (even at the low end of the market).... what people prefer will be different from what you prefer, and some people have different motives when buying certain technologies

I love both my Series 4 plasma, and my Series 5 LCD... I feel I have enough experience, in my own home, with both techs, entry level, to judge which is better at which tasks.

At the lower end of the market, the experts around here recommend plasma. I can only agree after having experience with both. With more budget, the differences are much less. Therefore at the lower end it is the be al and end all, unless the buyer needs the screen for PC work or if they 1080p.

People having different motives is exactly what I preach, please read some more of my posts before jumping in and accusing me of being stubborn/ignorant, and I'm quite sure you will get a better understanding.

 

[Tim182]

It would only be fair if you tell that to our friend Tim as well.

If you haven't noticed I stopped arguing about this long time ago. All I do is answer questions and leave the odd punchline to wind you up. Couldn't be bothered to write the same arguments over and over again. Some of your points are true but mostly you just overexaggerate and talk bollocks

People having different motives is exactly what I preach, please read some more of my posts before jumping in and accusing me of being stubborn/ignorant, and I'm quite sure you will get a better understanding.

"Preach" is exactly what you do. You preach a TV lol. And you are stubborn/ignorant when it comes to this topic

 

[ToxicBunny]

It would only be fair if you tell that to our friend Tim as well.

He actually stopped arguing with you ages ago, since its pointless, and you just constantly fall for whatever minor bait he leaves you...

At the lower end of the market, the experts around here recommend plasma. I can only agree after having experience with both. With more budget, the differences are much less. Therefore at the lower end it is the be al and end all, unless the buyer needs the screen for PC work or if they 1080p.

You are the "expert".. so you're saying you agree with yourself.. i should damn well hope so. and no, even at the low end of the market, its NOT the be all and end all, its just an option for the consumer.

People having different motives is exactly what I preach, please read some more of my posts before jumping in and accusing me of being stubborn/ignorant, and I'm quite sure you will get a better understanding.

You never preach anything other than Plasma.. even in threads where people are asking about 2 different LCD's... I will give you credit, you are no longer preaching your Series 4 C model plasma anymore... now you're punting the Series 4 D model plasmas... How exactly is punting plasma at all turns, preaching that people have different motives. Its irritating and please bloody stop it now. We KNOW you love plasma...... but its not everyone's cup of tea, and at the low end of the market its actually a very limiting technology PURELY due to the crap resolution of the panels...

 

[PostmanPot]

If you haven't noticed I stopped arguing about this long time ago. All I do is answer questions and leave the odd punchline to wind you up. Couldn't be bothered to write the same arguments over and over again. Some of your points are true but mostly you just overexaggerate and talk bollocks

Ditto that. Except I take pleasure in typing the same arguments again as I know there are dosens of people/forumites reading and not only those participating in debate. I like to help the audience by correcting your misinformation based on my experience with _both_ 4 Series plasma and 5 Series LCD in my own home. Also I mostly respond about people who actually watch TV/sport, whether SD or HD, unlike you who doesn't even own a decoder. Yet you still want to tell us how good your 5 Series is at SD and motion handling... Pal the only thing it's good for is resolution.

"Preach" is exactly what you do. You preach a TV lol. And you are stubborn/ignorant when it comes to this topic

Practise, preach, what ever. Point is I take exactly what TB raised I to consideration more often than most. How I can be stubborn/ignorant when I own both techs and spend the most time here, I don't know.

 

[PostmanPot]

He actually stopped arguing with you ages ago, since its pointless, and you just constantly fall for whatever minor bait he leaves you...

I love it. May he continue being a clown for a long time, ultimately helps expose the truth.

You are the "expert".. so you're saying you agree with yourself.. i should damn well hope so. and no, even at the low end of the market, its NOT the be all and end all, its just an option for the consumer.

I don't profess to be an expert. I am talking about Dolby, TYR and co who have way more experience. I learnt a lot from them. Funny how they say entry plasma > entry LCD. So to repeat, it is the be all and end all unless one needs to sacrifice PQ for resolution, or be able to do lots of work on a PC (static images), or they have a bright room (plasma is reflective).

Tell us, what do you own and what's your experience?

You never preach anything other than Plasma.. even in threads where people are asking about 2 different LCD's... I will give you credit, you are no longer preaching your Series 4 C model plasma anymore... now you're punting the Series 4 D model plasmas... How exactly is punting plasma at all turns, preaching that people have different motives. Its irritating and please bloody stop it now. We KNOW you love plasma...... but its not everyone's cup of tea, and at the low end of the market its actually a very limiting technology PURELY due to the crap resolution of the panels...

You are so misinformed it's not even funny. Not going to reply to your incorrect accusations when you never engage or bother to read all my posts. I preach LCD when LCD suits the OP, for whom I care. Fact is, 720p suits more people. And entry plasma is better at <720p than entry LCD. Hence the experts recommend plasma. Etc etc yadda yadda. Facts boet, if you can't accept them then please ignore me.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I give up... you are beyond help.

 

[PostmanPot]

I give up... you are beyond help.

Like you ever had any other choice.

In the future try to read my posts instead of jumping in once a month claiming I only preach plasma and the end telling us you give up and that I need help. Will you be gone for good now or can I expect you popping up again in a month telling us HD Ready plasma sucks and that I only preach plasma?

Gee I wonder what this Series 5 LCD in front of me is.

Cheers

 

[Tim182]

unlike you who doesn't even own a decoder. Yet you still want to tell us how good your 5 Series is at SD and motion handling... Pal the only thing it's good for is resolution.

Just because I don't own a DSTV deconder anymore (which I did) doesn't mean
1. I don't watch SD
2. I don't watch sport
I watch both, quite a bit. And I have hooked the TV up to a DSTV decoder many times. Sure, I mostly use FHD stuff but not always. And let me tell you, other stuff looks great too. And many other people agree with me. And I couldn't care what you think because in the end I have to look at it. And I couldn't be happier. Before purchasing the TV I spend a lot of time in shops looking at the PS 4 range. Tried all kinds of sources, tried all kinds of settings. I also looked at 6 and 7 series LCDs/LEDs/Plasmas. I also looked at Sony's and at LGs. Hell, money wasn't the issue. The reason I bought the LA was that it offered very good value for money, had a few more features than a comparable LG, was cheaper than the Sony, didn't cost a bomb, was a very nice size, didn't consume too much power etc, etc.

Practise, preach, what ever. Point is I take exactly what TB raised I to consideration more often than most. How I can be stubborn/ignorant when I own both techs and spend the most time here, I don't know.

Because you won your LCD you lucky bastard. You bought the Plasma and that's the purchase you feel the need to defend all the time

I give up... you are beyond help.

He is. A bit like a kid who just bought a Transformer toy and now has to argue and fight with his friend because he thinks that his Megatron is better than his friend's Optimus Prime lol

 

[PostmanPot]

Just because I don't own a DSTV deconder anymore (which I did) doesn't mean
1. I don't watch SD
2. I don't watch sport
I watch both, quite a bit. And I have hooked the TV up to a DSTV decoder many times. Sure, I mostly use FHD stuff but not always. And let me tell you, other stuff looks great too. And many other people agree with me. And I couldn't care what you think because in the end I have to look at it. And I couldn't be happier. Before purchasing the TV I spend a lot of time in shops looking at the PS 4 range. Tried all kinds of sources, tried all kinds of settings. I also looked at 6 and 7 series LCDs/LEDs/Plasmas. I also looked at Sony's and at LGs. Hell, money wasn't the issue. The reason I bought the LA was that it offered very good value for money, had a few more features than a comparable LG, was cheaper than the Sony, didn't cost a bomb, was a very nice size, didn't consume too much power etc, etc.

Obviously it looks great to most people and offers good value etc. I never said it didn't. Simply put entry level plasma is just better at <720p in comparison when you pit both side by side.

Of course that's different when comparing under blaring shop lights as LCD is brighter so seems better. Where did you do all your testing? Have you had a plasma in your home?

Because you won your LCD you lucky bastard. You bought the Plasma and that's the purchase you feel the need to defend all the time

No I did not win my LCD. Bought it brand new from a forumite. Feel free to bait me but lying like that isn't going to help.

He is. A bit like a kid who just bought a Transformer toy and now has to argue and fight with his friend because he thinks that his Megatron is better than his friend's Optimus Prime lol

The experts agree that Megatron is better. So you can understand why one would need to defend having Optimus Prime.

 

[Tim182]

Obviously it looks great to most people and offers good value etc. I never said it didn't. Simply put entry level plasma is just better at <720p in comparison when you pit both side by side.

So you keep saying

Of course that's different when comparing under blaring shop lights as LCD is brighter so seems better. Where did you do all your testing? Have you had a plasma in your home?

Yes I have had one at home.
Some people in my family own one.
I also tested in darked out viewing rooms.

No I did not win my LCD. Bought it brand new from a forumite. Feel free to bait me but lying like that isn't going to help.

That's what you said. Not gonna bother to try and find it as I have better things to do.

The experts agree that Megatron is better. So you can understand why one would need to defend having Optimus Prime.

I rest my case

 

[Lupus]

Okay back to general discussions then, I'm putting a warning here, when cleaning the bezel of your Samsung screen especially the ones with the Crystal something or other bezel, be very very careful, I cleaned my bezel yesterday and even with the microfibre cloth supplied it scratched it :-( luckily you can only see it in direct light but still, it's scratched my new baby is marked. This has never happened to any of my Samsung monitors

 

[PostmanPot]

So you keep saying

Zzz wake me up when you have a decent retort.

Yes I have had one at home.
Some people in my family own one.
I also tested in darked out viewing rooms.

Which one do you have at home?

Which "some people" in your family? Are you sure they're even blood relations...

Which darked out viewing rooms, where?

[Genuinely interested in your response]

That's what you said. Not gonna bother to try and find it as I have better things to do.

Bwahahaha. I never said such a thing. I dare you to find it, you will be on an endless mission and we could at least get some peace. In fact I could even get the person I bought from to reply here, if it excites you?

I rest my case

Thanks, I knew one day we would agree.