George Floyd death

[Jabulani22]

So, it's like saying hey, he had underlying causes, but I shovelled COVID-19 into his mouth until those causes took effect.

Its more like not making judgements on cause of death before someone has had the time to determine cause of death.(someone with medical training to do so)
Stats arent racist .

 

[Splinter]

Its more like not making judgements on cause of death before someone has had the time to determine cause of death.(someone with medical training to do so)
Stats arent racist .

A white cop kneeling on a black man's neck and he dies might just be.

 

[Splinter]

Its more like not making judgements on cause of death before someone has had the time to determine cause of death.(someone with medical training to do so)
Stats arent racist .

But, lets put it another way (as I tend to do). A black cop is seen kneeling on a white persons neck, who dies, here in SA. You going to wait for "stats"?

 

[Jabulani22]

A white cop kneeling on a black man's neck and he dies might just be.

Might be , could be , we dont know yet , could be a cop with a racist angle , could just be a guy who "contributed to" a guys death.
If they released the toxicology reports too then we would have more to go on.
What we do know is more whites die by cop than blacks and we know that cities arent torched and looted for them.

 

[Jabulani22]

But, lets put it another way (as I tend to do). A black cop is seen kneeling on a white persons neck, who dies, here in SA. You going to wait for "stats"?

One incident is not a reliable stat.
Try to remove race from it and just view one human and another .

 

[Splinter]

Might be , could be , we dont know yet , could be a cop with a racist angle , could just be a guy who "contributed to" a guys death.
If they released the toxicology reports too then we would have more to go on.
What we do know is more whites die by cop than blacks and we know that cities arent torched and looted for them.

This is not the issue. The issue is how and why folks die via police action.

 

[Splinter]

One incident is not a reliable stat.
Try to remove race from it and just view one human and another .

Indeed. Seems you don't.

 

[greg0205]

Might be , could be , we dont know yet , could be a cop with a racist angle , could just be a guy who "contributed to" a guys death.
If they released the toxicology reports too then we would have more to go on.
What we do know is more whites die by cop than blacks and we know that cities arent torched and looted for them.

Why?

If he'd been drinking he'd have deserved that?

If he'd had a joint he'd have deserved that?

If his blood was a third cocaine he'd have deserved that?

Why?

Why do you need a toxicology report?

Why?

 

[Jabulani22]

Indeed. Seems you don't.

Im in this thread from my first post saying to keep race out of it , jo jo jo bro.

 

[Jabulani22]

Why?

If he'd been drinking he'd have deserved that?

If he'd had a joint he'd have deserved that?

If his blood was a third cocaine he'd have deserved that?

Why?

Why do you need a toxicology report?

Why?

Because it would shed more light on an incident which we are discussing ?
Same as how past is brought up , lets give the present a fair shot too.

 

[Jabulani22]

This is not the issue. The issue is how and why folks die via police action.

So we only care about certain lives ?
That sounds fishy to me man.

 

[greg0205]

Because it would shed more light on an incident which we are discussing ?
Same as how past is brought up , lets give the present a fair shot too.

“The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive."

Why are you so desperate to make something, anything, he did morally equivalent to his murder?

Why?

 

[Jabulani22]

“The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive."

Why are you so desperate to make something, anything, he did moral equivalent to his murder?

Why?

Best i can do is "contributed to" death said the trained medical expert.
Now just release the toxicology which was referenced and people will be more informed.

Edit -Nice appeal to emotion there , i never said i was drawing conclusions from anything other than facts

 

[greg0205]

Did Makro have a closing sale on Troll Biscuits?

Between this and the other thread I feel like I've taken crazy pills.

 

[Splinter]

So we only care about certain lives ?
That sounds fishy to me man.

Tell you what. Don't really want to argue hatred with you right now. You carry on.

 

[Jabulani22]

Tell you what. Don't really want to argue hatred with you right now. You carry on.

If nobody adds hate then there wont be any .
People need to just hop off this racialising everything , a human is dead , does it actually make any difference if colors were different ? No a human died.
Now once we get that part down then we can move to honestly viewing evidence to reveal malice or intent or negligence or whatever.

 

[Emjay]

This is now a really bad take.

‘If you can talk, you can breathe’: Mississippi mayor ripped over George Floyd killing remarks

Hal Marx, mayor of Petal, weighed in on viral video footage that shows Floyd, who was black, saying “I can’t breath” while a white Minneapolis police officer pins him to the ground by his neck.…

nypost.com

 

[Splinter]

If nobody adds hate then there wont be any .
People need to just hop off this racialising everything , a human is dead , does it actually make any difference if colors were different ? No a human died.
Now once we get that part down then we can move to honestly viewing evidence to reveal malice or intent or negligence or whatever.

You are disingenuous in the extreme. Chat later.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

‘We will vote you out’: Taylor Swift, other celebrities drag Trump over Minnesota riot tweets

Unrest in Minneapolis over the death of George Floyd prompted the president to call protesters "thugs" on Twitter and say "when the looting starts, the shooting starts."

www.al.com

 

[greg0205]

Best i can do is "contributed to" death said the trained medical expert.
Now just release the toxicology which was referenced and people will be more informed.

Edit -Nice appeal to emotion there , i never said i was drawing conclusions from anything other than facts

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