George Floyd death

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Vorastra said:
The report is in the link.


Article:
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Autopsy report: George Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest, was positive for COVID-19

A postmortem nasal swab was taken which confirmed that Floyd was positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The postmortem positivity likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent PCR positivity from previous infection, the report said ...
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Direct document:

Autopsy 2020 3700 Floyd | DocumentCloud

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Was that Chinese, Russian or white supremacist fentanyl? Gotta blame someone.
 
konfab said:
Why not other factors like:
Foot size
Hair colour
Length of the index finger.

?

The reason why I can make it irrelevant right now is because it doesn't really describe anything useful in most cases as it is a fuzzy concept describing a statistically large population. Which means you will be getting a normal distribution with a very wide standard deviation.

Take something that causes lots of trouble like IQ, where there are reported "racial" differences. Except if you look at the distributions of it there are large amounts of overlaps between the different "races". This means that you cannot accurately infer someone's intelligence based on their race. It only works in one direction, that is, if you know someone has a high or a low IQ, you can only then infer what the probability of them being black or white is. Which is meaningless, since the thing that is actually important, is IQ.
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Behavior patterns (which are inherited a lot of the time) are much more important than IQ in some cases..... the only thing in question is what exactly gets inherited.
 
www.aljazeera.com

What happened the day George Floyd died in police custody?

Documents and video evidence provide a detailed - and at times contradictory - account of the day Floyd was killed.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com


The killing of George Floyd on May 25 has triggered unprecedented protests in the United States, with curfews being imposed in cities across the country and President Donald Trump briefly evacuated to a bunker during a night of violent demonstrations.

One former police officer involved in the killing, Derek Chauvin, has been charged with second-degree murder and manslaughter. Three other officers at the scene - Thomas Lane, J. Kueng and Tou Thao - were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder. All four of the officers had already been fired.

Here's what happened on the day Floyd died, according to publicly available documents and news reports:

911 call
A transcript (PDF) of the emergency call between someone working at a shop where Floyd allegedly attempted to pay for goods with a counterfeit $20 bill details the events leading up to the police call, from the shopkeeper's perspective.

The person at the shop, whose name is redacted, claimed they asked Floyd to return cigarettes that he purchased with the allegedly fake $20 bill. Floyd refused and was "awfully drunk".

However, the caller said Floyd didn't appear to be leaving the premises and remained in his car.

"Alright, I've got help on the way. If that vehicle or that person leaves before we get there, just give us a call back, otherwise we'll have squads out there shortly, okay?" the 911 dispatcher said.

Police arrive
According to the criminal complaint (PDF) against Chauvin, police arrived at the scene at 8:08pm local time.

It said officer Thomas Lane was speaking to Floyd, who was in the driver's seat of his car. Lane pulled his gun on Floyd until he put his hands on the steering wheel.

Lane then "pulled" Floyd out of the car. The complaint said Floyd "actively resisted being handcuffed", but then became compliant.


Press freedom violations reported at US protests (2:46)


Mahmoud Abumayyaleh, the owner of the shop where Floyd used the allegedly counterfeit bill, told CNN he reviewed his own surveillance footage and saw no resistance from Floyd when officers attempted to take him into custody.

At 8:14pm, as Floyd was being led to the police car, he "fell to the ground, and told the officers he was 'claustrophobic'".

Floyd was allegedly noncompliant with getting into the car, according to the complaint. He "struggled with the officers by intentionally falling down", it said.

After apparently getting him into the vehicle, at 8:19pm Chauvin "pulled" Floyd "out of the passenger side of the squad car". Floyd "went to the ground face down and still handcuffed".

Chauvin placed "placed his knee in the area of Mr Floyd's head and neck", the complaint said. Officer Kueng held Floyd's back and Lane held his legs.

8:27pm
Floyd repeatedly told officers he couldn't breathe multiple times, saying "please" and "Mama", both the complaint and harrowing video of his death show.

Chauvin's knee remained on Floyd's neck, and the other officers did not change positions. They told Floyd he was "talking fine" in response to his claims that he could not breathe.

Lane asked Chauvin: "Should we roll him on his side?"

Chauvin responded: "No, staying put where we got him."

Lane said he was "worried about excited delirium or whatever".

Excited delirium is a condition characterised "by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting", according to research from 2011.

The designation has been around since the 1800s, but has gained recent notoriety for its use in explaining deaths involving police officers, the study said.

While more research was needed at the time, "it is important to note that a lack of recognition of the condition in the context of law enforcement activities does not negate the significance of the behavioral and physical signs", it said.

Chauvin said in response to the expressed concern about excited delirium, "That's why we have him on his stomach."

At 8:24pm, Floyd stopped moving. A minute later, "the video appears to show Mr Floyd ceasing to breathe or speak".

A police officer checked his pulse and said, "I couldn't find one" at 8:25pm. The officers remained in their positions.

At 8:27pm, Chauvin took his knee off Floyd's neck.

"The defendant had his knee on Mr Floyd's neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total," the complaint said. "Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr Floyd was non-responsive. Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous."
 
rambo919 said:
If it was not applied to all races it would be BS no?
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Thanks for the verification - with all the racist diatribe here its good to see that your theory applies to all races.

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TysonRoux said:
Thanks for the verification - with all the racist diatribe here its good to see that your theory applies to all races.
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My thinking has always applied to everyone equally unless exception occur, it's just good honesty. There are white clusters that much act the same way as the notorious black clusters but there are always differences. In sub-clusters there are also many differences.

I don't understand why for some people we must all be exactly the same, it clearly has never been the case..... ever. Many of the same patterns repeat regardless of race but that just proves that race was never the determining factor.
 
rambo919 said:
My thinking has always applied to everyone equally unless exception occur, it's just good honesty. There are white clusters that much act the same way as the notorious black clusters but there are always differences. In sub-clusters there are also many differences.

I don't understand why for some people we must all be exactly the same, it clearly has never been the case..... ever. Many of the same patterns repeat regardless of race but that just proves that race was never the determining factor.
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There is no harm in recognizing differences in race, but it is a problem when its done with the intent to discriminate and marginalize another race - not saying that's what you were doing, seeing as you have already confirmed you were not.
 
TysonRoux said:
There is no harm in recognizing differences in race, but it is a problem when its done with the intent to discriminate and marginalize another race - not saying that's what you were doing, seeing as you have already confirmed you were not.
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Says the person that promotes discrimination based on race e.g. Affirmative action, BBE, reparations etc. Oh wait, what is that I hear? You don't. Well great, time for you to start pointed now out the hypocrisy of your fellow Democrat party supporters who do.
 
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