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Unarmed and used in a reconnaissance capacity.
 
Ah yes, let's all fix America because they're the center of the world don't you know LMAO.
Forget what's happening in your own black yard, Africa.

2 million women raped in Nigeria every year, but hey forget that when anything happens in the US the whole world gets upset.

10 black people killed in South Africa by security forces during lockdown, yeah.... well.... lets just move on shall we, we don't like to talk about that. One black person killed in the US by police and the EFF suddenly jump into action, I mean bandwagon, yeah bunch of hypocrites many of them. Where's the 179 page thread about that....
 
2 million women raped in Nigeria every year, but hey forget that when anything happens in the US the whole world gets upset.

10 black people killed in South Africa by security forces during lockdown, yeah.... well.... lets just move on shall we, we don't like to talk about that. One black person killed in the US by police and the EFF suddenly jump into action, I mean bandwagon, yeah bunch of hypocrites many of them. Where's the 179 page thread about that....
Oh Soldierboy, whatabout if you cared so much you'd start a thread discussing these things instead of using your whatabout to try to score points here?

You are being disingenious.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Colston

During the time of Colston's involvement with the Royal African company (1680 to 1692), it is estimated that the company transported around 84,000 African men, women and children, who had been traded as slaves in West Africa, of whom 19,000 died on their journey to the Caribbean and the Americas.[11] Ship's crew mortality rates were often similar and sometimes greater than the mortality rates amongst the slaves.[12] The slaves were sold to planters for cheap labour on their tobacco and, increasingly, sugar plantations who considered Africans would be more suited to the conditions than their own countrymen, as the climate resembled the climate of their homeland in West Africa. Enslaved Africans were also much less expensive to maintain than indentured servants or paid wage labourers from Britain.[13]

Don't agree with the vandalism but how does someone like this still have a statue in a public space...?
 
Oh Soldierboy, whatabout if you cared so much you'd start a thread discussing these things instead of using your whatabout to try to score points here?

You are being disingenious.

What the heck are you even talking about. Score points??? Never knew this was a contest??

I haven't started a thread about rock climbing on MyBB does that mean I don't like or are not interested in climbing?

Your logic fails.
 
The same way we have an airport named King Shaka.
Indeed...

"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a God." - Jean Rostand
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Colston



Don't agree with the vandalism but how does someone like this still have a statue in a public space...?

The date the statue was erected (or issued) is more the issue. According to the Wiki, it was erected in 1895 to commemorate his philanthropy.

Slavery was abolished in 1807 by the British Empire when the Slave Trade Act was passed, and it was only abolished in their Dominions in 1834 with the Emancipation Act where apprenticeship was ended in 1838 with the Slavery Abolition Act. The statue should never have been issued and should have been removed a long time ago under sober governance.

Philanthropy my arse.
 
The date the statue was erected (or issued) is more the issue. According to the Wiki, it was erected in 1895 to commemorate his philanthropy.

Slavery was abolished in 1807 by the British Empire when the Slave Trade Act was passed, and it was only abolished in their Dominions in 1834 with the Emancipation Act where apprenticeship was ended in 1838 with the Slavery Abolition Act. The statue should never have been issued and should have been removed a long time ago under sober governance.

Philanthropy my arse.
100%, obviously in 1895 attitudes were different, but how does a statue of someone like that survive for over 100 years without someone in government addressing the problem of venerating a slave trader?
 
Is there anyone who has not jumped on this bandwagon yet? I heard Cosatu's leader vomit some speech yesterday that included the line "workers can't breathe when blah blah blaaaaaahhhhhh", shook my head, and went on with my day.
 
The date the statue was erected (or issued) is more the issue. According to the Wiki, it was erected in 1895 to commemorate his philanthropy.

Slavery was abolished in 1807 by the British Empire when the Slave Trade Act was passed, and it was only abolished in their Dominions in 1834 with the Emancipation Act where apprenticeship was ended in 1838 with the Slavery Abolition Act. The statue should never have been issued and should have been removed a long time ago under sober governance.

Philanthropy my arse.
It's really easy to judge by modern standards. The history of human kind is one of slavery. As his wiki article states some of his philanthropic endeavours are still running today and it clear the statue was not to glorify slavery.
 
Destroy all history up to 1833.
You know, we have these amazing things called history books, and this even more amazing thing called the internet?

Which means that despite that statue being pulled down, we can still go and learn about how Edward Colston was a really "good" slave trader...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Colston

A statue was pulled down, nothing more and nothing less, the history of his life is still available for all to see and read about....
 
Don't agree with the vandalism but how does someone like this still have a statue in a public space...?

It's old, been there for yonks. Do we remove all references to history we don't like or do we leave history in place as a reminder?
 
You know, we have these amazing things called history books, and this even more amazing thing called the internet?

Which means that despite that statue being pulled down, we can still go and learn about how Edward Colston was a really "good" slave trader...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Colston

A statue was pulled down, nothing more and nothing less, the history of his life is still available for all to see and read about....
Next you'll be burning books.
 
You know, we have these amazing things called history books, and this even more amazing thing called the internet?

Which means that despite that statue being pulled down, we can still go and learn about how Edward Colston was a really "good" slave trader...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Colston

A statue was pulled down, nothing more and nothing less, the history of his life is still available for all to see and read about....

History books are being rewritten, education syllabuses are changed.
 
It's old, been there for yonks. Do we remove all references to history we don't like or do we leave history in place as a reminder?
Statues are about more than just recording history, there are about lifting up someone as an example to strive too.. Should the US have told the Iraqis not to topple statues of Saddam Hussein?

You can teach the history of the slave trade without literally putting the likeness of a slave trader on a pedestal.
 
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