George Floyd death

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ponder said:
They can start with qualified immunity, something ironically implemented to fight the KKK.
Disciplinaries should be by an external body.
Allowing those under investigation to resign/retire be abolished.
Those found guilty must go on a database and legally prohibited from ever working in any law enforcement agency again regardless of county/state so they don't just popup in another spot.
Better training, the demilitarized type.
Psychometric profiling before joining.
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I agree with all of that
 
ponder said:
They can start with qualified immunity, something ironically implemented to fight the KKK.
Disciplinaries should be by an external body.
Allowing those under investigation to resign/retire be abolished.
Those found guilty must go on a database and legally prohibited from ever working in any law enforcement agency again regardless of county/state so they don't just popup in another spot.
Better training, the demilitarized type.
Psychometric profiling before joining.
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Sometimes you do need the police to be able to show force. Having them being walked over helps no-one.

Biggest problem with police just about everywhere is that it is a job that really does require people who are careful and thoughtful in all their actions.

Unfortunately this isn't what they do and instead cater towards the lowest common denominator.

This is why I would put IQ limits on all police recruits.
 
'A Part of History': Calm Prevails Over D.C.'s Biggest George Floyd Protest

Tens of thousands of demonstrators amassed in Washington and other U.S. cities on Saturday demanding an end to racism and brutality by law enforcement, as protests sparked by George Floyd's fatal encounter with Minneapolis police stretched into a 12th day.

A Lincoln Memorial rally and march to the White House marked the largest outpouring yet of protests nationwide since video footage emerged showing Floyd, an unarmed black man in handcuffs, lying face down and struggling to breathe as a white police officer knelt on his neck.

Demonstrators rallied on Saturday in numerous urban centers - among them New York, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston and Miami - as well as in small, rural communities across the country.
"It feels like I get to be a part of history and a part of the group of people who are trying to change the world for everyone," said Jamilah Muahyman, a Washington resident at a demonstration near the White House.

One of the more surprising Black Lives Matter rallies was a gathering of 150 to 200 people in the east Texas town of Vidor, notorious for its long associations with the Ku Klux Klan.

Floyd's May 25 death has sparked a storm of protests and civil strife in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, thrusting the highly charged debate over racial justice back to the forefront of the political agenda five months before the Nov. 3 U.S. presidential election.

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Alan said:
Homicides in Baltimore

2012 - 216
2013 - 233
2014 - 233


April 19 2015 Freddie Gray dies in police custody at the hands of 6 cops, 3 of which were black. BLM goes on the rampage, liberals demand reforms etc etc


Baltimore police stopped noticing crime after Freddie Gray's death. A wave of killings followed.

2015 - 344
2016 - 316
2017 - 343
2018 - 309
2019 - 346
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Ah, but lefties teach people never to take responsibilities for themselves. Always blame "the system" etc.

Must be nice living a life never having to take individual responsibility.
 
A study was done taking the stats from police departments and it was found that black people in the US are just as likely to be killed by a black cop than a white cop. Where's the racism?

Are US police militarised and do they use excessive force? Heck yeah. They need to be retrained with public safety in mind rather than seeing the public as the enemy.
 
abzo said:
You’re probably going to claim that you know the image is photoshopped when it’s brought to your attention.
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No. In fact, regardless of the origins, no truer message has ever been sent out. ..something something ... in jest.

It's the exact same idiotic messages we are seeing being propagated. Read back, look on social media, liberal news.
Also think about my previous post, think about this lady's comments, in case you suddenly want to make me out as an uncaring privileged ... whatever. Think about what this is REALLY about.
 
www.peta.org

Why Vegans Should Support the 'Black Lives Matter' Movement | PETA

We in the animal rights movement know all too well how frustrating it is for people to scoff at our message, even with blatant evidence of injustice.
www.peta.org

Why Animal Rights Activists Must Stand Up for Black Lives
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Fellow animal liberators, I come to you right now—as an exhausted Black man—asking for help working against systemic racism that threatens Black lives. I know personally how motivated you all are, as I am, in pushing for real change. We need to show that energy right now.

Those of us who are active in the animal rights movement have a reason for being powerful allies. If we truly believe in empathy and compassion for all living beings, we can show it today.

Those involved in the animal rights movement know all too well how frustrating it is for people to scoff at our message, even when we’re armed with evidence of blatant injustice.

Think how infuriating it is when videos of mother cows crying out for their stolen calves fall on deaf ears. Think of the frustration we feel when individuals try to justify the abuse when workers punch and mutilate sheep for wool. Or when vile commenters laugh when farmers slit the throats of conscious animals on farms. I feel it, too.

Recognize our aggravation as Black people when the powers that be try to avoid or twist the narrative around the killing of Black people by racists. Just as we know it’s indefensible to use and abuse animals, the killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery and the near countless other Black lives taken because of violent bigotry are completely unjustifiable.

This is especially true when these atrocities are recorded for all the world to see. Both the animal rights movement and the Black Lives Matter movement include activists who know that horrible violence takes place off camera daily. But when people view the footage for themselves, they can no longer declare ignorance, only apathy. That’s why we must stand—and march—together.

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Fellow animal liberators, we know the power of protesting and demonstrating. Use it now.

As a Black vegan, I don’t tiptoe between two identities—I embrace the solidarity of these two worlds. Many others do, too, as African Americans are the fastest-growing population of vegans in the country. Living vegan is as much a lifesaver for animals as it is a political statement against an unjust status quo.

I only ask that my fellow animal rights activists make their voices heard and show solidarity with Black people now, for this is the moment to do so. Everyone has a moral responsibly to stand against hate and unequivocal violence, no matter who the victims may be. Your voice could very well save my life.
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Well, as long as they call out animal abuse? BTW, the article was originally titled, "Why Vegans Should Support the ‘Black Lives Matter’ Movement". I see PETA is calling out K9 handlers... that animals shouldn't be used in these situations. PETA being PETA. More organisations and more 'celebrities' are using this opportunity to promote themselves. Those who support BLM should rightly support the cause, and call out the misdirected BS.
 
Now Reddit is focused on a black man who has been pulled from his car by his hair by police in Canada.

So, you know how the buck conveniently didn't stop with any of the Democrats regarding the Floyd issue?

Weirdly, the buck suddenly stops with the premier of Quebec and not Trudeau. The premier just happens to be on the right.

Seems the trend with Redditors is that blame is conveniently laid at the feet of the first right-leaning official.
 
ghoti said:
www.theguardian.com

UN experts condemn modern-day ‘racial terror’ lynchings in US

Monitors made direct link between police killings of unarmed black American men and racial lynchings in segregation era
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before we start with modern day, shall we look at unfinished business of the past :

As recently as last week, the US Senate , tried once more to pass the ever marinading ...Emmett Till Anti Lynching Act , making lynching a federal hate crime....to no avail...thanks to a weird Rand Paul proposed amendment.....he wanted the "sloppy written bill" to define lynching to include, ones heart being ripped from ones chest....to ensure that this hate crime act, once it becomes law, could not be used for "minor infractions". He voted in favour of the Senate bill previously, with no reservations. Once the House of Reps passed version was consolidated with the Senate's
version and put up for its final Senate Floor vote...Paul jump up with his amendment.
 
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