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Family want answers after Black man found hanging in California

Local officials and protesters call for an independent investigation into the death of Robert Fuller, 24, in Palmdale.


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People gather around a tree where the body of Robert Fuller was found on Wednesday

Amid protests against racial mistreatment and injustice across the United States, the family of a 24-year-old Black man found hanging from a tree in Palmdale, California have called for answers over his death.


On Saturday, hundreds of people marched in Palmdale following the death of Robert Fuller, who was found hanging from a tree near City Hall early on Wednesday. During the demonstration, Los Angeles Supervisor Kathryn Barger formally called for an investigation into the death by the state's attorney general.

Authorities initially said Fuller's death appeared to be a suicide, but are awaiting the results of an autopsy. Community members have questioned how they came to that determination so quickly.

"Everything that they've been telling us has not been right," Fuller's sister, Diamond Alexander, who was among the protesters, said, the New York Times reported. "We've been hearing one thing. Then we hear another. And we just want to know the truth."


"My brother was not suicidal. He wasn't," she added.


Protesters have taken to the streets regularly in small and major cities across the US since the May 25 death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who died after an officer in Minneapolis kneeled on his neck for nearly nine minutes. The four officers involved in the death have since been terminated and criminally charged.
 
Family want answers after Black man found hanging in California

Local officials and protesters call for an independent investigation into the death of Robert Fuller, 24, in Palmdale.


8837856c899642beb74296092ac6f744_18.jpg

People gather around a tree where the body of Robert Fuller was found on Wednesday

Amid protests against racial mistreatment and injustice across the United States, the family of a 24-year-old Black man found hanging from a tree in Palmdale, California have called for answers over his death.


On Saturday, hundreds of people marched in Palmdale following the death of Robert Fuller, who was found hanging from a tree near City Hall early on Wednesday. During the demonstration, Los Angeles Supervisor Kathryn Barger formally called for an investigation into the death by the state's attorney general.

Authorities initially said Fuller's death appeared to be a suicide, but are awaiting the results of an autopsy. Community members have questioned how they came to that determination so quickly.

"Everything that they've been telling us has not been right," Fuller's sister, Diamond Alexander, who was among the protesters, said, the New York Times reported. "We've been hearing one thing. Then we hear another. And we just want to know the truth."


"My brother was not suicidal. He wasn't," she added.


Protesters have taken to the streets regularly in small and major cities across the US since the May 25 death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who died after an officer in Minneapolis kneeled on his neck for nearly nine minutes. The four officers involved in the death have since been terminated and criminally charged.
Why did Collins Khosa's murder not elicit same fury as Floyd's?

The contrasting reactions to the murders of George Floyd and Collins Khosa at the hands of the police and soldiers call for a deeper scrutiny of racism.

Perhaps it is TDS?
 
They were elected because Gordon Brown was such a boring fecker.

But the firing of police officers in the UK is what caused an increase in violent crime more than anything else. So stop trying to shift blame

Chris arguing that the UK Conservative Party is Antifa/communist is a twist I did not quite see coming, I'll admit.
 
You do know its possible to drum up fear in your own support base as well? You seem to have forgotten how fear was a major thing for the Dems and particularly their left-leaning support base. Minorities (ethnic and LGBTQ) under siege in a Trump America? Vote for us or else. It was all fear from all sides.


One is true and one isn't. How are you not both-sides'ing this?
 
Oh my. Well, let me broaden your intelligence a bit :) Just because you can breathe does not mean your brain is getting oxygen if something (and in this case someone) restricts that flow. Oxygen gets to your brain by blood...
If blood does not flow to your brain what would happen??


Edit: Question, has anyone here ever been chocked out?

You can breathe fine, it just restricts blood flow, does kinda feel like you can't breathe, you pass out after a while, and you could easily end up dead if that hold goes on forever


A chokehold, choke, stranglehold or, in Judo, shime-waza is a general term for a grappling hold that critically reduces or prevents either air or blood from passing through the neck of an opponent. The restriction may be of one or both and depends on the hold used and the reaction of the victim

Go to your closest Judo training center and ask for a choke hold that will restrict the blood flow and feel that feeling for yourself

I train in submission wrestling, you cannot talk or breath in a choke hold, that's why you tap.
 
It's going to be interesting when the police officer who is charged with George's killing gets acquitted in his trial.

I say acquitted, because they charged him with 1st degree murder, this will be impossible to prove. As any lawyer will tell you.

Also, kneeling on someone's neck is standard procedure in the Minneapolis police precinct. He was doing what he was trained to do. And, if someone can speak it means they can breathe.

Interesting times ahead.
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I'm citing Me.

It's my opinion.
Come on, pull your pants up ..........
 
@OrbitalDawn - even with a re-phrasing of the question about defunding the police, majority still oppose:

That's at least a 26% swing.

And there are other polls:


Anyway, yeah - I don't think "defund/abolish the police" will ever be a popular message. Just like "defund/abolish public schools/hospitals" won't ever be. Hasn't stopped Republicans from doing it, though.

Hell, they don't even necessarily have to 'defund' the police, just re-direct funding to proper channels.

Why does the L.A. school police have a grenade launcher and armored vehicle, for example?

Silly enough, a lot of the 'defund/abolish' talk in reality just ends up meaning restructure/reform/redefine, which often is very popular. But I guess it doesn't make for a very catchy protest anthem.


The irony is that with McConnell and Trump refusing to do a proper phase 4 stimulus bill, States and Local Government are going to get hammered and the police will be defunded anyway.
 
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