George Floyd death

[OrbitalDawn]

"In secret recordings, a Mount Vernon, New York cop says he safeguarded drugs for a favored dealer, says cops let key dealers sell drugs with free reign + robbed residents. The Westchester DA got tapes from a whistleblower last year - the cops are still active."

The Mount Vernon Police Tapes: In Secretly Recorded Calls, Officer Says Some Drug Dealers Operate With ‘Free Rein’

According to the officer, dealers also gave police information leading to the arrests of their own low-level clients.

gothamist.com

Nope, no systemic problems at all.

 

[Jabulani22]

^^...oh the irony.....now just imagine, they were all black and it was a BLM gathering ... same emotive pleas, why does theirs resonate and yet African Americans have been pleading it for centuries, and theirs fell/fall on deaf ears.

13% = 50%
Now think about it , and then again .

 

[TysonRoux]

Seems like standard practice to subdue [kill] a suspect , worldwide.View attachment 862371

For black suspects.

What made you think that only the US has racist white cops?

After Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh's arrest almost went unnoticed

Like all the local legends in this little town, Charlie Hanger has a portrait hanging on the wall of the Kumback Cafe, between the photo of outlaw Pretty Boy Floyd (said to have once eaten the biggest steak in the place) and the state champion wrestling teams.

www.latimes.com

 

[ForceFate]

Seems like standard practice to subdue a suspect , worldwide.View attachment 862371

Knee directly on the neck in the pic on the far left.

 

[ForceFate]

Minnesota cops 'trained by Israeli forces'

morningstaronline.co.uk

View attachment 862377

They clearly misunderstood their training.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

This is a really good read by the police chief of the Camden police department that was disbanded because of its structural failure and how they built something better.

As Camden’s police chief, I scrapped the force and started over. It worked.

 

[Brenden_E]

^^...oh the irony.....now just imagine, they were all black and it was a BLM gathering ... same emotive pleas, why does theirs resonate and yet African Americans have been pleading it for centuries, and theirs fell/fall on deaf ears.

The narrative that police are brutalizing all black people is completely manufactured and false. Look at the police shootings over the last 10 years. An innocent black man is as likely to be killed by a lightning strike as by police shooting. 235 black people shot in total, which consist mostly of criminal thugs.

Stop being a sheep - twitter is not a reliable source of information.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

The narrative that police are brutalizing all black people is completely manufactured and false. Look at the police shootings over the last 10 years. An innocent black man is as likely to be killed by a lightning strike as by police shooting. 235 black people shot in total, which consist mostly of criminal thugs.

Stop being a sheep - twitter is not a reliable source of information.

Uh-huh.

Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex

Police violence is a leading cause of death for young men in the United States. Over the life course, about 1 in every 1,000 black men can expect to be killed by police. Risk of being killed by police peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for men and women and for all racial and ethnic groups...

www.pnas.org

In the new study, black Americans were three times more likely to be shot and killed by police officers during interactions where the victim appeared to pose little or no threat to officers, the researchers found.

Inside 100 million police traffic stops: New evidence of racial bias

Stanford researchers found that black and Latino drivers were stopped more often than white drivers, based on less evidence of wrongdoing.

www.nbcnews.com

The results show that police stopped and searched black and Latino drivers on the basis of less evidence than used in stopping white drivers, who are searched less often but are more likely to be found with illegal items.

Racism in the Rear View Mirror - ACLU of Illinois

The ACLU of Illinois released a new report – Racism in the Rear View Mirror – examining Illinois traffic stop data reported by law enforcement agencies across the state from 2015 to 2017. The report highlights significant racial disparities persist in traffic stops. For example, Black and...

www.aclu-il.org

For example, Black and Latinx drivers are more likely to be asked to consent to a search, but white drivers are more likely to be found with contraband during a consent search.

A Multi-Level Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings at the County-Level in the United States, 2011–2014

A geographically-resolved, multi-level Bayesian model is used to analyze the data presented in the U.S. Police-Shooting Database (USPSD) in order to investigate the extent of racial bias in the shooting of American civilians by police officers in recent years. In contrast to previous work that...

journals.plos.org

The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about 3.49 times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by police} on average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling show that there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in the extent of racial bias in police shootings, with some counties showing relative risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. Finally, analysis of police shooting data as a function of county-level predictors suggests that racial bias in police shootings is most likely to emerge in police departments in larger metropolitan counties with low median incomes and a sizable portion of black residents, especially when there is high financial inequality in that county. There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.

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The results indicated civilians from “other” minority groups were significantly more likely than Whites to have not been attacking the officer(s) or other civilians and that Black civilians were more than twice as likely as White civilians to have been unarmed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/

“when factoring in threat level, black Americans who are fatally shot by police are, in fact, less likely to be posing an imminent lethal threat to the officers at the moment they are killed than white Americans fatally shot by police.” According to one of the report’s authors, “The only thing that was significant in predicting whether someone shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black. . . . Crime variables did not matter in terms of predicting whether the person killed was unarmed.”

Mapping Police Violence

Law enforcement agencies across the country are failing to provide us with even basic information about the lives they take. So we collect the data ourselves.

mappingpoliceviolence.org

An analysis of the use of lethal force by police in 2015 found no correlation between the level of violent crime in an area and that area’s police killing rates. Mapping Police Violence found that fewer than one in three black people killed by police in 2016 were suspected of a violent crime or armed.

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

The Department of Justice’s investigation into the behavior of police in Ferguson, Missouri, found “a pattern or practice of unlawful conduct within the Ferguson Police Department that violates the First, Fourth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution, and federal statutory law.” The scathing report found that the department was targeting black residents and treating them as revenue streams for the city by striving to continually increase the money brought in through fees and fines. “Officers expect and demand compliance even when they lack legal authority,”

“African Americans are more than twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during vehicle stops even after controlling for non-race based variables such as the reason the vehicle stop was initiated, but are found in possession of contraband 26% less often than white drivers, suggesting officers are impermissibly considering race as a factor when determining whether to search,” the authors wrote.

On the Stop-and-Frisk Decision: Floyd v. City of New York

Memoranda and orders filed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin following the trial over New York Police Department’s stop-and-frisk tactics.

www.nytimes.com

A 2013 ruling by a New York Federal District Court judge found that the New York Police Department’s “stop and frisk” practices violated the constitutional rights of minority citizens of the city. Between January 2004 and June 2012, the city conducted 4.4 million stops. Eighty-eight percent of those stops resulted in no further action, and 83 percent of the stopped population were black or Hispanic, despite the fact that those minority groups, together, made up just over half of the city’s overall population.

Study Supports Suspicion That Police Are More Likely to Use Force on Blacks (Published 2016)

A report by the Center for Policing Equity comes at a time of increased tension over shooting episodes.

www.nytimes.com

A study by the Center for Policing Equity found, as characterized by a preview in The New York Times, that “African-Americans are far more likely than whites and other groups to be the victims of use of force by the police, even when racial disparities in crime are taken into account.” The study looked at 19,000 use-of-force incidents between the years 2010 and 2015.

Here's 160+ studies looking at the issue. Have fun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/opinions/systemic-racism-police-evidence-criminal-justice-system/

 

[Brenden_E]

Uh-huh.

Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex

Police violence is a leading cause of death for young men in the United States. Over the life course, about 1 in every 1,000 black men can expect to be killed by police. Risk of being killed by police peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for men and women and for all racial and ethnic groups...

www.pnas.org

Inside 100 million police traffic stops: New evidence of racial bias

Stanford researchers found that black and Latino drivers were stopped more often than white drivers, based on less evidence of wrongdoing.

www.nbcnews.com

Racism in the Rear View Mirror - ACLU of Illinois

The ACLU of Illinois released a new report – Racism in the Rear View Mirror – examining Illinois traffic stop data reported by law enforcement agencies across the state from 2015 to 2017. The report highlights significant racial disparities persist in traffic stops. For example, Black and...

www.aclu-il.org

A Multi-Level Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings at the County-Level in the United States, 2011–2014

A geographically-resolved, multi-level Bayesian model is used to analyze the data presented in the U.S. Police-Shooting Database (USPSD) in order to investigate the extent of racial bias in the shooting of American civilians by police officers in recent years. In contrast to previous work that...

journals.plos.org

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onlinelibrary.wiley.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/

Mapping Police Violence

Law enforcement agencies across the country are failing to provide us with even basic information about the lives they take. So we collect the data ourselves.

mappingpoliceviolence.org

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

On the Stop-and-Frisk Decision: Floyd v. City of New York

Memoranda and orders filed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin following the trial over New York Police Department’s stop-and-frisk tactics.

www.nytimes.com

Study Supports Suspicion That Police Are More Likely to Use Force on Blacks (Published 2016)

A report by the Center for Policing Equity comes at a time of increased tension over shooting episodes.

www.nytimes.com

Here's 160+ studies looking at the issue. Have fun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/opinions/systemic-racism-police-evidence-criminal-justice-system/

The stats show that black people aren't being killed en masse. It's a false narrative, end of the story. Nice collection of irrelevant articles.

Police in America is far too heavy-handed, but this narrative has been distorted that it nowhere near reflects reality anymore. The stats stand.

If every single black person killed last year by the police was 100% innocent (which we know is not remotely true), the police killed 0.0006% of black people.

They killing all black people out there!

 

[Brenden_E]

Gets hella drunk, fights with police, disarm them - attempts to shoot the police.
That's another one for the stats.

The protesters, "He's an innocent black man!" - yea right.

Sort out the culture of hooliganism in the African communities and police won't have to shoot peeps. Don't break the law and you won't have to deal with a police force that's heavy-handed. It's that easy.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

The stats show that black people aren't being killed en masse. It's a false narrative, end of the story. Nice collection of irrelevant articles.

Police in America is far too heavy-handed, but this narrative has been distorted that it nowhere near reflects reality anymore. The stats stand.

If every single black person killed last year by the police was 100% innocent (which we know is not remotely true), the police killed 0.0006% of black people.

They killing all black people out there!

Come on, man - why are you attacking a strawman?

It's really not difficult to understand it's about the broader issues of police brutality and racial discrimination in the criminal justice system, not one narrow metric. And you shifted from "brutalizing" to "shooting" to "killing". These things are different. Floyd wasn't shot, but he was brutalised and killed, for example.

Campaign Zero

The comprehensive platform of research-based policy solutions to end police brutality in America.

www.joincampaignzero.org

These proposals would improve policing for everyone, btw.

 

[Oldfut]

The stats show that black people aren't being killed en masse. It's a false narrative, end of the story. Nice collection of irrelevant articles.

Police in America is far too heavy-handed, but this narrative has been distorted that it nowhere near reflects reality anymore. The stats stand.

If every single black person killed last year by the police was 100% innocent (which we know is not remotely true), the police killed 0.0006% of black people.

They killing all black people out there!

This is the part I do not get and for me, just raises questions to which there are no concrete answers really proposed (de fund the police?). If many people want race based demographic representation in all police and justice department action, how should it be implemented? Should black people; over represented in prison numbers, be left free regardless of offence, even if guilty and "white" (maybe Hispanics and Orientals etc too) people stopped, searched, arrested, prosecuted and jailed in greater proportion on more minor grounds?

No reasons or outcomes are given in the studies, just that they are demographically not representative (very like SA). Or should the laws be re-written around race; as in SA? Maybe once the statues are pulled down, new ones erected and the roads re-named it will all go away, as it has in SA (yeah right)?

Is there not just the tiniest chance that a more likely cause is say, a societal one and the fingers are pointing the wrong way?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

This is the part I do not get and for me, just raises questions to which there are no concrete answers really proposed (de fund the police?). If many people want race based demographic representation in all police and justice department action, how should it be implemented? Should black people; over represented in prison numbers, be left free regardless of offence, even if guilty and "white" (maybe Hispanics and Orientals etc too) people stopped, searched, arrested, prosecuted and jailed in greater proportion on more minor grounds?

No reasons or outcomes are given in the studies, just that they are demographically not representative (very like SA). Or should the laws be re-written around race; as in SA? Maybe once the statues are pulled down, new ones erected and the roads re-named it will all go away, as it has in SA (yeah right)?

Is there not just the tiniest chance that a more likely cause is say, a societal one and the fingers are pointing the wrong way?

The only way to not be aware of proposed solutions is to actively try not to find it.

Campaign Zero

The comprehensive platform of research-based policy solutions to end police brutality in America.

www.joincampaignzero.org

Unbundle the Police

American policing is a gnarl of overlapping services that should be demilitarized and disentangled.

www.theatlantic.com

How to reform American police, according to experts

As protesters demonstrate against police violence, here are eight ideas for reforming law enforcement in the US.

www.vox.com

 

[Jabulani22]

For black suspects.

What made you think that only the US has racist white cops?

After Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh's arrest almost went unnoticed

Like all the local legends in this little town, Charlie Hanger has a portrait hanging on the wall of the Kumback Cafe, between the photo of outlaw Pretty Boy Floyd (said to have once eaten the biggest steak in the place) and the state champion wrestling teams.

www.latimes.com

Knee directly on the neck in the pic on the far left.

They clearly misunderstood their training.

@TysonRoux , No evidence of racism in the last few incidents , over representation of one demographic in crime is not a police issue .

@ForceFate , exactly , misunderstood training or any number of other factors .


I wonder if these other suspects died , probably not unless they had a fentanyl/meth cocktail and pre-existing health conditions.

 

[rietrot]

"In secret recordings, a Mount Vernon, New York cop says he safeguarded drugs for a favored dealer, says cops let key dealers sell drugs with free reign + robbed residents. The Westchester DA got tapes from a whistleblower last year - the cops are still active."

The Mount Vernon Police Tapes: In Secretly Recorded Calls, Officer Says Some Drug Dealers Operate With ‘Free Rein’

According to the officer, dealers also gave police information leading to the arrests of their own low-level clients.

gothamist.com

Nope, no systemic problems at all.

Have we moved on from systemic racism aimed at black people to a more general "systemic problems"?

 

[2026]

That data over at https://openpolicing.stanford.edu/ is pretty cool. I prefer raw data over news websites as they tend to oversimplify and drive for clicks.

 

[rietrot]

The stats show that black people aren't being killed en masse. It's a false narrative, end of the story. Nice collection of irrelevant articles.

Police in America is far too heavy-handed, but this narrative has been distorted that it nowhere near reflects reality anymore. The stats stand.

If every single black person killed last year by the police was 100% innocent (which we know is not remotely true), the police killed 0.0006% of black people.

They killing all black people out there!

I get 0.00001% or 14/1000000 (per capita)

Here’s How Many People Police Killed in 2019...We Think | The Root

On Oct. 14, 2019, 12-year-old Akeelah Jackson was returning to her St. Louis home from a Family Dollar store. As she crossed the street, an unidentified

www.theroot.com

I'm trying to find a silly example of just how dangerous this is. Everything else including major illnesses have a much higher rate.

Heart disease is 1260/1000000
SA murder rate is around 350/1000000

 

[thestaggy]

Pro-BLM Democrat mayor had her home vandalised, likens it to ''domestic terrorism''.

Rainbow flag outside her home plus a BLM sign in her window.

Washington mayor calls BLM ‘domestic terrorism’ after vandals target her home

A Democratic mayor in Washington state spoke out this week against the protests supporting the Black Lives Matter movement — after a group of vandals damaged her home.

Mayor Cheryl Selby of Olympia, the state’s capital, told The Olympian this week that she was “really trying to process” the news that her home had been vandalized.

“It’s like domestic terrorism. It’s unfair. It hurts when you’re giving so much to your community,” Selby told the outlet.

The mayor of the largely Democratic city argued that she was facing three crises at once, “COVID-19, homelessness, and 400 years of racial injustice.”

According to the paper, a group of protesters went to Selby’s home over the weekend. The group chanted “Abolish the police” and one individual spray-painted her front porch and door with the letters “BLM,” to signify “Black Lives Matter.”

At some point, a man “with a flat, metal paddle-like object” told the group to leave, and threatened them if they did not listen.

 

[Brenden_E]

Come on, man - why are you attacking a strawman?

It's really not difficult to understand it's about the broader issues of police brutality and racial discrimination in the criminal justice system, not one narrow metric. And you shifted from "brutalizing" to "shooting" to "killing". These things are different. Floyd wasn't shot, but he was brutalised and killed, for example.

Campaign Zero

The comprehensive platform of research-based policy solutions to end police brutality in America.

www.joincampaignzero.org

These proposals would improve policing for everyone, btw.

O go fly a kite - it's not about that at all. The narrative is black lives matter, and that the police are murdering black people en masse.

 

[rietrot]

Bending the knee