Geyser device

[DollyAAAA]

Nope. like it the way it is --- very useful to have a power supply available that is NOT E/L protected ------but still "complies" with them "rules and regulations".

+1.

You don't want an EL fault to leave you in the dark. Keep your lights off EL if you can.

 

[Gnome]

Nope. like it the way it is --- very useful to have a power supply available that is NOT E/L protected ------but still "complies" with them "rules and regulations".

+1.

You don't want an EL fault to leave you in the dark. Keep your lights off EL if you can.

I prefer to avoid death or fire in the event of live wire contact (whenever possible). A EL fault is a massive concern and shouldn't happen.To each his own

 

[DollyAAAA]

I prefer to avoid death or fire in the event of live wire contact (whenever possible). A EL fault is a massive concern and shouldn't happen.To each his own

Sure, but you don't normally swing off your ceiling light fittings, now do you?

Without alcohol that is

 

[Geoff.D]

Talking about light circuits ---

Anyone ever had anything to do with power in rented premises in a shopping centre??

Well that is a nightmare!

My wife had rented premises for a business she was running. A single power board in the shop, fed from TWO completely different DBs in the complex, unlabelled, one 3 phase, the other single phase, all to a common set of CBs, with a common neutral bar.

The Air conditioning was forever "tripping" the E/L, so was the outside signage and the "emergency light circuit".

Want to guess what the Property owner electrician did to "solve" the problem?

Well he simply bypassed the E/L with all the pesky circuits that were "tripping" the E/L, that's what !

We closed the business and a legal letter war including the OHSA people was still raging after 3 years ----

 

[Gnome]

Sure, but you don't normally swing off your ceiling light fittings, now do you?

Without alcohol that is

Aaah, that was what I was doing wrong, too much alcohol

Well he simply bypassed the E/L with all the pesky circuits that were "tripping" the E/L, that's what !

Bloody hell, a tripping EL is scary to me. Once I put my place on EL and it tripped I was too scared to bypass it. (Was N->E fault because of insulation failure, which in itself is scary given small diameter earth used in twin flex)

It is scary to me because the "electrician" bypasses the EL and then it doesn't trip, so he pronounces it safe and job done. Meanwhile a wire somewhere is dodgy.
Is it a shock hazard?
Is it a fire hazard (eg. inappropriately sized conductor that inadvertently conducts)

 

[Pieter @ 4 Seasons Solar]

a Ripple Relay is a real pain in the Behind for Us installers... I usually ask the Estate's permission to bypass it if we installed a solar geyser.

With a pumped system it can cause major problems with the panel overheating. s