Grade 1s try to stone teachers

noxibox said:
Yes, we all know it's the magical quick fix for everything.
Click to expand...

Judicious application of punishment didn't harm any of the many citizens of this country that now own successful businesses, or have successful careers. A smack on the backside for being a naughty liitle A-hole isn't going to scar you for life - it's going to make you think about the consequences of your actions. Once you understand that your actions have consequences, good or bad, you'll be more inclined to think twice about stoning the very people trying to educate you.

Eff me, I seriously think this world is getting more screwed up by the minute. You know when it got exponentially worse? When they stopped parents, and the people they entrust with their children's education, from disciplining their own children. There's a difference between abuse and discipline.

Kids of today get away with blue murder and we must just stand by while they do it? I've got a hot slap waiting for any lightie that dares to throw a stone at me. In fact, I think I'll just lob a rock back at him!
 
Last edited:
Carbon_Fibre said:
Stones. That's nothing. That's some amateur sh|t. Go check out what the spoilt rich kids get up to in the private schools. Teachers don't bother running, they're too afraid. Like when approached by a lion or a bear, don't run, just stand absolutely still. beFCKNware
Click to expand...

Not sure if serious...

I went to a 'rich' school - must have missed all the action. :confused:



PS: Why don't images work in this section of the forum?
 
FlatspinZA said:
Eff me, I seriously think this world is getting more screwed up by the minute. You know when it got exponentially worse? When they stopped parents, and the people they entrust with their children's education, from disciplining their own children. There's a difference between abuse and discipline.
Click to expand...

Amen to that & its the world all over,no respect for nothing.
 
FlatspinZA said:
Judicious application of punishment didn't harm any of the many citizens of this country that now own successful businesses, or have successful careers. A smack on the backside for being a naughty liitle A-hole isn't going to scar you for life - it's going to make you think about the consequences of your actions. Once you understand that your actions have consequences, good or bad, you'll be more inclined to think twice about stoning the very people trying to educate you.
Click to expand...
Corporal punishment when applied according to the law was a joke. At best it worked as a threat, but once a child realised it was not a big deal it became completely ineffective. Hell if it were still legal in schools I'd make sure my child and all his friends were fully aware of the legal limits, as well as teaching my child not to fear it and encouraging him to teach his friends the same. Then those loser teachers who can't control their students without threats of violence would be pretty much ****ed. Push those teachers into going beyond what the law allows, then we lay charges and crush them. Make them realise their actions have consequences.

Eff me, I seriously think this world is getting more screwed up by the minute. You know when it got exponentially worse? When they stopped parents, and the people they entrust with their children's education, from disciplining their own children. There's a difference between abuse and discipline.
Click to expand...
What a load of tripe. No parent is barred from disciplining their child, unless they're one of those who thinks discipline and hitting their child are synonymous.

Kids of today get away with blue murder and we must just stand by while they do it?
Click to expand...
Who said anything about standing by?
 
Carbon_Fibre said:
Stones. That's nothing. That's some amateur sh|t. Go check out what the spoilt rich kids get up to in the private schools. Teachers don't bother running, they're too afraid. Like when approached by a lion or a bear, don't run, just stand absolutely still. beFCKNware
Click to expand...

please do provide some evidence.
 
Tun@ said:
Amen to that & its the world all over,no respect for nothing.
Click to expand...
The only teachers I ever respected were the ones that had effective control of their classrooms without even the hint of a threat to hit anyone.

Frankly if parents have been lax, and a typical example is throwing all boundaries and discipline out of the window, then by the time they reach school you're in a losing battle. Hitting them six times with a wooden ruler is not going to achieve anything.

If we look at the list of countries where it is illegal in the home we should see children running amok in those countries, while we should see perfect little angels in those that allow it. Places like Canada take a middle ground, rightly outlawing it for children under two and over twelve (appropriate to treat the latter as assault).

The situation should be particularly dire in those countries where it is illegal in both schools and the home.

Use of anything other than a bare hand should always be illegal.

I'd have to ask though where is the line between appropriate hitting and abuse?
 
Yes, the Eastern Cape has also got dismal education results. There seems to be a lack of respect for education and educators.

In 2008 the Eastern Cape Province produced a pass rate of 50.6 % for the 60 297 who wrote the first National Senior Certificate Examination based on the National Curriculum Statement.

In 2009, an increased number of 68 129 candidates wrote and the province obtained a pass rate of 51.0%, which is 0.4% improvement. source
Click to expand...

The Eastern Cape Education Department needs to have a serious look at what is going on in their schools, and to be fair, don't make promises you can't keep, it's called lying.

Everything parents do, children see, and throwing stones has always been a favourite in South Africa, just like stabbings is a favourite in the Cape Flats.

Resolving problems through violent means is usually the choice of those who don't have the skills and tools to resolve conflict through thought, debate, conversing and compromise.

My mom would have said : "Jy kry 'n party op jou gat !" and that would have been the end of that :twisted:

Children need strong guidance, I don't believe violence (hidings) is the answer, I believe that informed parents can make a difference. If the parenting style is wrong - the childs behaviour will be the first clue.
 
East London - Angry pupils at Mthambalale Primary School in Lusikisiki
Click to expand...

Lusikisiki's 360km away from Slummies. o_O Unless the Dispatch is reporting on it.
 
Ironically, a teacher friend of mine got threatened by a group of model c kids from a school called Crewe yesterday... theyre in grade 4 and have threatened to fk him up. I mean... I would seriously make a child like that fly.
 
Voicy said:
Lusikisiki's 360km away from Slummies. o_O Unless the Dispatch is reporting on it.
Click to expand...
Also saw that and it made me then read the article, only to then see it is Lusikisiki. A closer reference would be Port St Johns for those that don't know the area (or even Mthatha).

/it's like calling EL a suburb of PE! :twisted:
 
noxibox said:
Hell if it were still legal in schools I'd make sure my child and all his friends were fully aware of the legal limits, as well as teaching my child not to fear it and encouraging him to teach his friends the same. Then those loser teachers who can't control their students without threats of violence would be pretty much ****ed. Push those teachers into going beyond what the law allows, then we lay charges and crush them.
Click to expand...

You would want for a teacher to lose his/her income, pension ... everything just because he/she might be a "loser" and who uses the threat of violence?!
 
noxibox said:
The only teachers I ever respected were the ones that had effective control of their classrooms without even the hint of a threat to hit anyone.
Click to expand...

Those people are few and far between especially if you have kids/young adults from areas of my experience.
 
If the parents have not instilled a sense of discipline in their kids then there is no way in hell that an educator can do this on their behalf.

Discipline starts at home.
 
w1z4rd said:
Ironically, a teacher friend of mine got threatened by a group of model c kids from a school called Crewe yesterday... theyre in grade 4 and have threatened to fk him up. I mean... I would seriously make a child like that fly.
Click to expand...

You should actually see those bastards. When I played rugby in primary school against them it looked like their steriods were spiked with steroids. That was 11 years ago.
 
noxibox said:
The only teachers I ever respected were the ones that had effective control of their classrooms without even the hint of a threat to hit anyone.

Frankly if parents have been lax, and a typical example is throwing all boundaries and discipline out of the window, then by the time they reach school you're in a losing battle. Hitting them six times with a wooden ruler is not going to achieve anything.

If we look at the list of countries where it is illegal in the home we should see children running amok in those countries, while we should see perfect little angels in those that allow it. Places like Canada take a middle ground, rightly outlawing it for children under two and over twelve (appropriate to treat the latter as assault).

The situation should be particularly dire in those countries where it is illegal in both schools and the home.

Use of anything other than a bare hand should always be illegal.

I'd have to ask though where is the line between appropriate hitting and abuse?
Click to expand...

Perhaps disciplinary measures should be instituted by the Principal, or Vice-Principle? When it becomes apparent that a particular child is always standing outside the Principal's office, it would be easier to institute further measures, such as contacting the child's parents, etc, and finding out the cause of their unruliness. I don't think teachers should be issuing corporal punishment - it might not become apparent that the child has a problem.

I'm talking about a whack on the backside, not beating them to a pulp.
 
w1z4rd said:
Ironically, a teacher friend of mine got threatened by a group of model c kids from a school called Crewe yesterday... theyre in grade 4 and have threatened to fk him up. I mean... I would seriously make a child like that fly.
Click to expand...

w1z4rd and I agree, watch for snow, chaps. :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X