Guild Wars, questions...

@ lilDeath

Can you maybe give me ideas for a good necro\ranger build.
I'm using death the most to go for a minion master??

This is my build at the moment
N\R level 20

Animate Bone Fiend
Blood of the Master
Shadow Strike
Vampiric Gaze
Serpent's Quickness
Troll Unguent
Charm Animal

My idea is to create bone fiends then keep them alive as long as possible with 'blood of the master' and using 'Serpent's Quickness' to do that continuously. Charm annimal for meat shield.With vampiric gaze and shadow strike do do innitial damage. i have one slot open and thats up for discussion?
 
you can still change your profession if you are in tyria you have to complete your ascension and then speak to valiny (spelling) in droks by storage she will give you a quest called A Hero's Challange.

if you are in Factions once you get to I think Nahpui or the town after that one you can change your profession.
 
fishfly said:
you can still change your profession if you are in tyria you have to complete your ascension and then speak to valiny (spelling) in droks by storage she will give you a quest called A Hero's Challange.

if you are in Factions once you get to I think Nahpui or the town after that one you can change your profession.
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thanx fishfly i will try that
 
WARNING!

If you create a MM in Factions you will need to travel to Iron Mines of Moladune (Tyria) to buy your Verata's Sacrifice skill.

I discovered this last night to my horror :(

They've left it out of factions the @#$@#!@^
 
aCe said:
WARNING!

If you create a MM in Factions you will need to travel to Iron Mines of Moladune (Tyria) to buy your Verata's Sacrifice skill.

I discovered this last night to my horror :(

They've left it out of factions the @#$@#!@^
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If I am not mistaken you can buy the Verata's sacrifice from the Skills trainer in Copperhammer and Rankor.
 
Vercogen said:
@ lilDeath

Can you maybe give me ideas for a good necro\ranger build.
I'm using death the most to go for a minion master??

This is my build at the moment
N\R level 20

Animate Bone Fiend
Blood of the Master
Shadow Strike
Vampiric Gaze
Serpent's Quickness
Troll Unguent
Charm Animal

My idea is to create bone fiends then keep them alive as long as possible with 'blood of the master' and using 'Serpent's Quickness' to do that continuously. Charm annimal for meat shield.With vampiric gaze and shadow strike do do innitial damage. i have one slot open and thats up for discussion?
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The sec is up for discussion but I use very little of the Monk skills as my secondary, mainly only resurrection skills. You do see a few N/R, so there might be some that think they are a good build. I am N/Mo.

Carrying charm animal for a meat shield is kinda redundant seeing that you are raising minions that will act as shields. The minions will also do more dmg than a pet, especially if your death is high, also seeing that you have to put quite a few points in the skill for the pet to start doing serious dmg. I would replace it with another necro skill, like bone horror, it's cheaper on nrgy than fiends and they will definitely take over the meat shield role from the pet.

Troll unguent is also a bit of a waste, you are already carrying health supplement skills in vampiric gaze and shadow strike. I think it would be more worthwhile using a skill in blood attribute which you are already using, like life siphon, or if stuff get hectic use a death skill to recover hp like taste of death or soul feast or more dmg in putrid explosion. The possibilities are endless.

MM is usually heave dmg dealers so the build is loaded with dmg skills and some hp recovery, depending on what attr you are in, blood or curses. As it stands, you are using 3 ranger skills which is a bit much in my opinion, maybe in the very least keep unguent, but replace the rest with other skills. I am not familiar with the pro's / cons of serpents quickness, so don't know about that one.

Hope it helps. ;)
 
Telkom strikes again.

It only took me 2 hours too find a good party last night, and just before the mission my connection drops.

Between Telkom & the noobs in Tyria i dont stand a chance
 
Thanx lilDeath appreciated

Don't you think bone fiends are more powerful and lasts longer than horrors because of the range attacks?

What do you think of Putrid Explosion or Death Nova to cast on my minions just before they die?

The other problem is i cant get a good staff for death anywhere. i have two good ones for curses but that wont help me at all.

I still have my Armor from Ascalon City i'm at Ventaris Refuge now, do you think i must wait before i buy armor and when will be the best time?
 
@Vercogen

For a weapon, maybe consider:
Skyward Reach - Arliss Vaughn - Collects: 5 Iridescent Griffon Wings
Location: Near the exit to The Scar
* Truncheon, Cold Dmg: 11-22 (req. 9 Death Magic)
Improves skill recharge using Death Magic skills (20% Chance)

These are also some better collector options in Snake's Dance etc. I believe in always going for a collector weapon until I get something better, if ever.

I think it is usually a good idea to make a mixture of horrors and fiends. The horrors are the meat shield and the fiends do the damage. Using death nova the way you describe would need serious micro management. Probably better to just try to keep your little friends alive a bit longer.
 
@Vercogen

My N/R build that I swear by:

Death Magic: 16 (12+2+2)
Soul Reaping: 13 (12+1)
Wilderness Survival : 3

Serpents Quickness
Deathly Swarm
Dark Bond
Healing Spring
Blood of the Master
Animate Bone Minions
Animate Vampiric Horrors
Animate Flesh Golem{E}
 
Vercogen said:
Don't you think bone fiends are more powerful and lasts longer than horrors because of the range attacks?
What do you think of Putrid Explosion or Death Nova to cast on my minions just before they die?
The other problem is i cant get a good staff for death anywhere. i have two good ones for curses but that wont help me at all.
I still have my Armor from Ascalon City i'm at Ventaris Refuge now, do you think i must wait before i buy armor and when will be the best time?
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I have heard people say fiends last longer than horrors, but I quite frankly cannot see this for myself, I have tried ;)
They probz think this because horrors are melee and are naturally the ones taking more dmg hence them dying quicker, but they are the barrier that will stop you form being hit, whereas it isnt the same with fiends, necessarily. I like my horrors. :D
Depending on what enemies we are facing, I try and have a balance of fiends and horrors.
I thought about the N/R a bit and one of the reasons I can see people going for this build is that if you have a pet, and he dies you will always have a body available for raising, but this is a bit extreme and will only work in specific areas where the pet dies frequently and you raise and them res him.

I prefer putrid explosion, because like gkm said, death nova requires some serious management. I admire the enemy NPC's for using Death Nova so accurately ;)

As for the weapons, the one gkm mentioned is def ideal for MM, I just find farming for griffon wings to be even more tedious than farming for minotaur horns.
I like using Morgriff's scepter as well, it gives bonus for all spells, not just death.
I have seen even better collector weapons in Factions for MMs.

Armor...hhmm...toughie...if u have money and materials, buy armor when you can get better, otherwise, hold out till you get to droks. Collect all pickups and do not sell items unless they are weapons, cause when you get to a collector, see if you cant exchange for better armor or weapons. I think Ventari is the last place I bought armor before buying in Amnoon Oasis again.
Or go for a run to Droks ;)
 
Played my first time on factions mainland yesterday those quest at the marketplace and I must say those quests are a lot harder than normal guildwars quests even with an 8party team
 
Vexx007 said:
@Vercogen
My N/R build that I swear by:
Death Magic: 16 (12+2+2)
Soul Reaping: 13 (12+1)
Wilderness Survival : 3

Serpents Quickness
Deathly Swarm
Dark Bond
Healing Spring
Blood of the Master
Animate Bone Minions
Animate Vampiric Horrors
Animate Flesh Golem{E}
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Notice you've been to Factions ;)
I see you're using a blood skill, but dont have any points assigned to blood. You are probz using this as a defense when required (yet another reason why you dont wanna be a minion :p)
You got some serious nrgy management going on here :D
Are you using SQ to reduce recharge times of minion skills specifically and I assume you are using HS to supplement HP when using BoM??
 
Thanx again:D

@ Vexx007

I'm a bit in two minds here Flesh golem seems a toughie to get as it is an elite skill. Vampiric horror is another one to look out for!!

@ lilDeath

I must agree on the bone horror issue and i will rather go for it now. Thanx!!

@ gkm

Where's Skyward Reach - Arliss Vaughn
soz but i cant find it on any map = noob :D
 
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Vercogen said:
Wheres Skyward Reach - Arliss Vaughn
soz but i cant find it on any map = noob :D
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This is in the crystal desert, where you will do your ascension missions. You are about 2 main missions away, 3 maps or so.
 
ok so here is a doof question:

on your inventory menu.... underneath your cape,weapon there is another slot.....is that only for warriors to carry a shield ?? or can other classes use it for something ?

sorry, arb and pointless i know but it's been bugging me


heres another 1:

i am curious how much savings you guys have:

i spoke to a guy who instead of trading with me, gave me the item for free because he had alot of cash....

so i asked how much is alot........
he said he had 800k !!!!!!

so i'm just curious if thats par for the course of an ascended, titan beating farmer from Tyria or if the dude is GW version of Donald trump....
 
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