Haiti and the blacks!

[killadoob]

no, you don't understand .......
anything negative of African people = racist

that is the logic.

Yea i have noticed that actually. Mention the word black and bam you are racist, as you say anything negative well then you are a big stinking racist .

 

[Morgoth]

to me the difference is the Earthquake in chille vs Haiti, in chilli the government gave orders that looting and graverobbing will not be allowed......
in haiti the locals ran around stealing and scavanging what is left...

 

[STS]

Excuse my ignorance, but I still dont understand. What is the difference between saying a white/black (obviously referring to a person) and saying a white/black person.
I dont get it.

how often do people say "a white" as opposed to "whites"? it's usually "a white guy" or "a black man" which is perfectly fine in my eyes, i'm not arguing against using the description.

what i am against, is do you believe the writer was saying SOME black people can't run a country? do you think groups like stormfront only dislike SOME black people? do you think black nationalists see SOME white people as guilty of apartheid?

i understand you might think that there is no difference between the word "blacks" and "black people", but go find any racist article on the internet and see if they refer to blacks as people. the only way they can justify hatred for black people is as seeing them as sub human and animals, so it's just a personal dislike of mine. and besides, anyone who uses the terms "blacks" and "whites" in the same system usually see's a huge contrasting difference in the two races, and i can assure you it's usually not only skin colour.

 

[STS]

I am also confused, if i heard whites and apartheid i would not think anything of it. To me apartheid represent the whites dominating the blacks just the same as i think blacks in Africa are destroying it.

I am not racist i just find people are scared to say things like blacks commit the most crime or whites are basically the only reason this country is still surviving. These are simple facts and not racist in my opinion. Mugabe kicked out all the white farmers and put blacks in the farms. Is that a racist thing to say?

black people DO commit the most crimes, that is not racist. not trusting someone BECAUSE they are black is racist. also, suggesting "blacks" are destroying africa is the same as suggesting my black mate sitting behind me is one of the people responsible, and if he isn't then he should be. it all narrows down to diction and what you're trying to say. do you think the guy in the article(parody or not) was praising black people on their compassion?

Mugabe DID **** up the country and kick the white farmers out, that is ALSO not racist, but suggesting that this is the "african way" is. he is judged solely on his race and not his character

 

[killadoob]

Do you believe the writer was saying SOME black people can't run a country?

LOL i believe he was saying no black person can run a country. Now be that racist or not based that on the facts i have just by looking at Africa i tend to agree with that. Black people who run countries do not think about tomorrow, they want to rape everything they can until they destroy the country and worse is they have people in the country who support them. Look at mugabe for instance, who in their right mind would support such a farkin ****? All the African presidents LOL. I mean FFS

Am i saying all black people are same? nope, i am saying it seems if a black person comes to power it is only a matter of time until the country is destroyed. Is that racist?

 

[Mineer]

I don't think it is racist at all, am i wrong in saying the guy who wrote it is black?

I think he has many good points, i do however think Africa is a f up for many of the reasons he has put down. Why is listing facts racist?

I also think the writer is black but I don't find this really funny it is hurtful but most of does nothing to improve the readers perception as what most satire strives to do

 

[killadoob]

Sometimes the truth hurts if you ask me. I can tell you right now there are black folk all over Africa who share the same thoughts. Africa is such a sad place to live actually, so much potential in africa but for the most part it is nothing more than a poverty ridden corrupt continent.

 

[STS]

Do you believe the writer was saying SOME black people can't run a country?

LOL i believe he was saying no black person can run a country. Now be that racist or not based that on the facts i have just by looking at Africa i tend to agree with that. Black people who run countries do not think about tomorrow, they want to rape everything they can until they destroy the country and worse is they have people in the country who support them. Look at mugabe for instance, who in their right mind would support such a farkin ****? All the African presidents LOL. I mean FFS

Am i saying all black people are same? nope, i am saying it seems if a black person comes to power it is only a matter of time until the country is destroyed. Is that racist?

yes, it is. you're saying because they're a black person, it seems they can't come into power or they'll destroy the country. you wouldn't care about the person's character, qualifications or background, you've already made up your mind because the person is black. you also forget most african leaders were originally soldiers taking part in revolutions. soldier leading the country = dictator.

of course history is on your side. i mean there is overwhelming evidence that african leaders tend to **** up their countries, but you also forget that africans were introduced to western society and "civilisation" quite recently. and of course there is Mao ZeDong, Kim Jong-il, Saddam Hussein and Stalin who are unfortunately barbarians but not africans. is it the "chinese way"? how about the "russian way"?

i mean Mandela ran this country the african way, look at all the genocide he commited. look how he caused our economy to plummet and how strong the racial tensions are today. and Steve Biko clearly spread a message of hate, good thing those white policemen killed him before he had a chance to become a leader right? you're right, there are no good african leaders

 

[Fazda]

Please, this is so old, that Noah read the article whilst floating in the Med!

Loose Cannon is theoretically a satirical writer and not meant to be taken seriously at all.

Of course all of your Right Wing sites lapped that particular article up!

 

[Brawler]

how often do people say "a white" as opposed to "whites"? it's usually "a white guy" or "a black man" which is perfectly fine in my eyes, i'm not arguing against using the description.

what i am against, is do you believe the writer was saying SOME black people can't run a country? do you think groups like stormfront only dislike SOME black people? do you think black nationalists see SOME white people as guilty of apartheid?

i understand you might think that there is no difference between the word "blacks" and "black people", but go find any racist article on the internet and see if they refer to blacks as people. the only way they can justify hatred for black people is as seeing them as sub human and animals, so it's just a personal dislike of mine. and besides, anyone who uses the terms "blacks" and "whites" in the same system usually see's a huge contrasting difference in the two races, and i can assure you it's usually not only skin colour.

WOW.
Funny how in this thread you had didn't have anything to say about the title "whites undermining service delivery", yet here the word "blacks" is mentioned and the hair on your back stands up. /just and observation.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?219310-Whites-undermining-service-delivery

 

[STS]

WOW.
Funny how in this thread you had didn't have anything to say about the title "whites undermining service delivery", yet here the word "blacks" is mentioned and the hair on your back stands up. /just and observation.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?219310-Whites-undermining-service-delivery

actually i did:

Originally Posted by String View Post
You know how it goes..

Blacks always need someone to blame.
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listen sparky, you're no better than this guy accusing evil "white" tax payers

i also said nothing there because i agreed with the "whites" on what they were doing and discussed it with a couple of people in real life. think i'm a self-loating white person now?

you're observation is not to my argument, but to the threads i post to and the boards i frequent. do you agree or disagree? or are you going to go around looking for other places i didn't post?

 

[I am Penguin]

black people DO commit the most crimes, that is not racist. not trusting someone BECAUSE they are black is racist. also, suggesting "blacks" are destroying africa is the same as suggesting my black mate sitting behind me is one of the people responsible, and if he isn't then he should be. it all narrows down to diction and what you're trying to say. do you think the guy in the article(parody or not) was praising black people on their compassion?

Mugabe DID **** up the country and kick the white farmers out, that is ALSO not racist, but suggesting that this is the "african way" is. he is judged solely on his race and not his character

So if you agree what bugs you so much then? the truth's or the facts of the matter. You refer to Mugabe as the ZIM culprit, conveniently leaving out his team, army and all the voters that supported and still supports him.

So funny that when it comes to Mugabe then the rest does not count but when it comes to "Apartheid" the offspring of the "Apartheid" founders and contributors to the scheme are still suffering for it today, 20 years after apartheid ended, but that is Ok! Thus only been born in a white family makes the stigma and penalty cling forever?

It all in the mind, that hurt and realization that what is spoken is the factual truth. Enough evidence exist. Look at Africa! Look at the Malema farce, Wasting millions while he hand out a few cell phones on his birthday and proclaim he is for and representing the poor. YET He is not even worth Madiba's, silent fart!

 

[killadoob]

yes, it is. you're saying because they're a black person, it seems they can't come into power or they'll destroy the country. you wouldn't care about the person's character, qualifications or background, you've already made up your mind because the person is black. you also forget most african leaders were originally soldiers taking part in revolutions. soldier leading the country = dictator.

of course history is on your side. i mean there is overwhelming evidence that african leaders tend to **** up their countries, but you also forget that africans were introduced to western society and "civilisation" quite recently. and of course there is Mao ZeDong, Kim Jong-il, Saddam Hussein and Stalin who are unfortunately barbarians but not africans. is it the "chinese way"? how about the "russian way"?

i mean Mandela ran this country the african way, look at all the genocide he commited. look how he caused our economy to plummet and how strong the racial tensions are today. and Steve Biko clearly spread a message of hate, good thing those white policemen killed him before he had a chance to become a leader right? you're right, there are no good african leaders

All i see is excuses. You can barely come up with a few examples of good african leaders and you totally ignore most of africa.

Shame

Saddam hussein as odd as it sounds did a good job, look at iraq without him. Maybe he was a bad man but i think he was man who knew without the bad there would be no good and you only have to look at the civil war to see why possibly saddam was a bad man, the country though was not a complete write off it is now without him, the so called democracy failed and he knew it would, something the US should have thought about.

I am using an entire continent as example, you however are picking on certain countries. Go look at africa and go take a real good look at it and come tell me African leaders can run a country. Look at this country nothing but thugs and corrupt people running it. Maybe that is your definition of a well run country. Am i saying all blacks are thugs and corrupt? Nope i am saying when a black person comes to power for some reason they do not run it as they should.

You want to talk about a racist, go look up some stuff your buddy malema is saying.

Facts do not lie. Africa is all the facts i need to base my opinion on.

 

[R13...]

All i see is excuses. You can barely come up with a few examples of good african leaders and you total ignore most of africa.

Shame

Saddam hussein as odd as it sounds did a good job, look at iraq without him. Maybe he was a bad man but i think he was man who knew without the bad there would be no good and you only have to look at the civil war to see why possibly saddam was a bad man, the country though was not a complete write off it is now without him, the so called democracy failed and he knew it would, something the US should have thought about.

I am using an entire continent as example, you however are picking on certain countries. Go look at africa and go take a real good look at it and come tell me African leaders can run a country. Look at this country nothing but thugs and corrupt people running it. Maybe that is your definition of a well run country. Am i saying all blacks are thugs and corrupt? Nope i am saying when a black person comes to power for some reason they do not run it as they should.

You want to talk about a racist, go look up some stuff your buddy malema is saying.

Facts do not lie. Africa is all the facts i need to base my opinion on.

I like your simplistic take on Africa's lot...

 

[STS]

So if you agree what bugs you so much then? the truth's or the facts of the matter. You refer to Mugabe as the ZIM culprit, conveniently leaving out his team, army and all the voters that supported and still supports him.

and people indirectly assume all zimbabweans deserve it because they clearly all voted for the guy. everytime we hear about how much africa sucks we have to hear about how much Mugabe sucks, therefore africans suck. we always have to hear about how south africa is going to become a zimbabwe and a haiti, never a namibia or a botswana. if we want all of Mugabe's "team' to pay for the things that they've done, what is stopping black people in this country from applying the same measure to the white people?

So funny that when it comes to Mugabe then the rest does not count but when it comes to "Apartheid" the offspring of the "Apartheid" founders and contributors to the scheme are still suffering for it today, 20 years after apartheid ended, but that is Ok! Thus only been born in a white family makes the stigma and penalty cling forever?

find one post from me suggesting that. you can't apply other people's arguments to my view. there are plenty of black posters on the internet that disagree with Mugabe anyway. you're taking a different issue and comparing it to the issue i've presented. does one wrong make another wrong right?

you're also using this mysterious "they" again, i know there are people who still think white people are benefiting and should still feel guilty, but how is this different from assuming all black people feel this way? some people are over it, you only ever hear about it in the media or from idiots you meet, the rest of the people have no issue with it.

It all in the mind, that hurt and realization that what is spoken is the factual truth. Enough evidence exist. Look at Africa! Look at the Malema farce, Wasting millions while he hand out a few cell phones on his birthday and proclaim he is for and representing the poor. YET He is not even worth Madiba's, silent fart!

okay, fine, it's the factual truth. now let's use some more facts.
1.) is it their DNA that makes them do it? how different are they to white and asian people? is it a genetic thing that makes them murder and steal?
2.) how about their culture? does everyone in the same culture do the same things? is there written laws?
3.) did God make them this way? how do they fit into the world?
4.) what is it that makes them so evil and incompetent?

facts apply to everything. all dogs bark, all fish have gills. claiming all black people when they come into power destroy countries is not a fact, as there are plenty of black company owners in leadership and manager positions who do their job well. africans leaders have only ever used mob mentality, and this is no different from white people had done in the past.

 

[Moederloos]

if you say blacks you make it sound like they all represent one another because of something as meager as skin colour. imagine if the heading was "whites and apartheid".

also, there is a few trampled-on brains in this country who still hold hostility towards the english for what they did to the afrikaners in the concentration camps 50 billion years ago even tho they weren't there. it's these ideas of dividing people into groups for more than just ethnicity and languages that cause racial stereotypes and conflicts.

English PEOPLE and Afrikaans PEOPLE.
tx

 

[DreamKing]

okay, fine, it's the factual truth. now let's use some more facts.
1.) is it their DNA that makes them do it? how different are they to white and asian people? is it a genetic thing that makes them murder and steal?
2.) how about their culture? does everyone in the same culture do the same things? is there written laws?
3.) did God make them this way? how do they fit into the world?
4.) what is it that makes them so evil and incompetent?

facts apply to everything. all dogs bark, all fish have gills. claiming all black people when they come into power destroy countries is not a fact, as there are plenty of black company owners in leadership and manager positions who do their job well. africans leaders have only ever used mob mentality, and this is no different from white people had done in the past.

my blog compared Haiti and Dominican Republic, find out the truth yourself. If you can explain why, then it is NOT the DNA problem, otherwise........
(this article is prohibited to publish in ANY forum because of "the truth" hurt a vast majority. what I did is just compare and contrast both counties, everything you can find in wiki, but I received an ________ because of disclosed the truth )

You want the truth, explain it to me FIRST!

 

[STS]

All i see is excuses. You can barely come up with a few examples of good african leaders and you totally ignore most of africa.

Shame

i mentioned africans living in a westernised civilisation is quite recent.

Saddam hussein as odd as it sounds did a good job, look at iraq without him. Maybe he was a bad man but i think he was man who knew without the bad there would be no good and you only have to look at the civil war to see why possibly saddam was a bad man, the country though was not a complete write off it is now without him, the so called democracy failed and he knew it would, something the US should have thought about.

apply this argument to Zimbabwe. imagine what Zimbabwe would be like without Mugabe, they might be raping people in their homes and murdering people even more. one bad does not justify another bad, especially to those people who lost people they loved. we go on about all the white farmers suffering in Zimbabwe but now suggest "he did a good job" even when he murdered people and had them executed for wanting freedom.

I am using an entire continent as example, you however are picking on certain countries. Go look at africa and go take a real good look at it and come tell me African leaders can run a country. Look at this country nothing but thugs and corrupt people running it. Maybe that is your definition of a well run country. Am i saying all blacks are thugs and corrupt? Nope i am saying when a black person comes to power for some reason they do not run it as they should.

alright, for the sake of being civil, i'll assume we're just misunderstanding each other and that you don't think that black = country gonna fail. i agree that many countries have had it bad with african leaders, but would you also agree that many african countries really haven't had a chance to put a good leader in place, because of the masses using mob mentality because of not getting a good education, and the oppositions brute force? if both these were attended to, do you think that an african country can be run properly?

You want to talk about a racist, go look up some stuff your buddy malema is saying.

Facts do not lie. Africa is all the facts i need to base my opinion on.

this is another tactic i've noticed with racists in the past, just because i am defending african people from being generalised, people equate that to me being buddies with Malema or voting for the ANC. in the past when i've stuck up for black people i've been called a k****r-boetie and a veraaier, and i'm not going to stop defending good decent africans who are lumped together with the bad in their group because not country in the world tolerates this, so why should i?

 

[R13...]

my blog compared Haiti and Dominican Republic, find out the truth yourself. If you can explain why, then it is NOT the DNA problem, otherwise........
(this article is prohibited to publish in ANY forum because of "the truth" hurt a vast majority. what I did is just compare and contrast both counties, everything you can find in wiki, but I received an ________ )

You want the truth, explain it to me FIRST!

Haiti founded by slaves... and the Dominican Republic a free country!

 

[STS]

English PEOPLE and Afrikaans PEOPLE.
tx

thanks, i was using the argument i got from stormfront word for word, yours sounds much better