Haiti and the blacks!

[I am Penguin]

okay, fine, it's the factual truth. now let's use some more facts.
1.) is it their DNA that makes them do it? how different are they to white and asian people? is it a genetic thing that makes them murder and steal?
2.) how about their culture? does everyone in the same culture do the same things? is there written laws?
3.) did God make them this way? how do they fit into the world?
4.) what is it that makes them so evil and incompetent?

facts apply to everything. all dogs bark, all fish have gills. claiming all black people when they come into power destroy countries is not a fact, as there are plenty of black company owners in leadership and manager positions who do their job well. africans leaders have only ever used mob mentality, and this is no different from white people had done in the past.

We all even the Whole OF the World would LOVE to know. Please advise us with the truth and facts. Look at Africa and the rest of the world? Forget about South Africa and "Apartheid", just give us the reasons for the common denominators when it comes to African Nations and their progress and achievements in the world or are we going to fall back to the slavery arguments rather then. Nobody said anything about individuals or specific persons we can only relate to what we see, experience and ponder the evidence!

 

[DreamKing]

Haiti founded by slaves... and the Dominican Republic a free country!

...... read more FRIST!

 

[killadoob]

facts apply to everything. all dogs bark, all fish have gills. claiming all black people when they come into power destroy countries is not a fact.

Sadly your mentality is the reason Africa is so bad, it is the same mentality that makes most black people in this country tick anc every single election without thinking about WTF is going on.

This article i must say sums up africa with facts and just pure honesty. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/133394

According to the Africa Union (AU) around $148 billion are stolen from the continent by its leaders and civil servants. LOL this article is just so good that your fish and dog examples look pretty pathetic.

 

[I am Penguin]

facts apply to everything. all dogs bark, all fish have gills. claiming all black people when they come into power destroy countries is not a fact.

Sadly your mentality is the reason Africa is so bad, it is the same mentality that makes most black people in this country tick anc every single election without thinking about WTF is going on.

This article i must say sums up africa with facts and just pure honesty. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/133394

=sarcasm
That article are just racist, its presented from the USA if you maybe missed it.
/Sarcasm

Well the obvious question is then is it because of ................, poor us, Apartheid will get the blame for everything even as the founder and creator of racism.

 

[killadoob]

Yup and remember it is the white man or the west to blame for the poor state of Africa, nothing to do with the leaders. No sir they are a product of the white colonialists . We will forever hear about apartheid as an excuse for dumb people running our country.

The sad thing is the masses will always believe the government is corrupt because of the whites . Keep the masses uneducated and poor and accept money from the west seems to be the order of the day in africa and then blame the west for the poor state of the country .

 

[STS]

facts apply to everything. all dogs bark, all fish have gills. claiming all black people when they come into power destroy countries is not a fact.

Sadly your mentality is the reason Africa is so bad, it is the same mentality that makes most black people in this country tick anc every single election without thinking about WTF is going on.

This article i must say sums up africa with facts and just pure honesty. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/133394

and what i was trying to tell you is that most africans are ignorant, stupid and poor. forward this email to all of them - you see the problem? most of them don't have access to my broadband? most of them don't know that they deserve better human rights. most of them don't know a worthwhile way of saving their country.

the problem is that there are no countries to bully these african counties, there is nobody to keep them in check. the people who need these natural resources along with oil are getting their oil, the african leaders are getting their money and that's that. they don't care what kind of government is being run in africa, or maybe they do, if a decent and honest government comes into rule they might raise the oil prices. companies are a big reason africa is still kept in the dark

and here is a typical summary of the kind of politics that go with an african country: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Angola

 

[killadoob]

O yes Africans need broadband to figure out their government is a F up.

Let me give you an example:

I am African and my government is not delivering so what do i do? Well i go burn schools and throw rocks at cars and then when the election comes along i go vote for the same people that made me throw rocks and burn schools and libraries.

Now i somehow don't think education can fix a mentality problem.

 

[w1z4rd]

Africans? I thought we were all Africans here. Except bwana... he is an import.

 

[killadoob]

I think in the context of this thread wizard your comment is very silly. Got anything to add to the actually discussion going on?

 

[Moederloos]

Actually, back to the black PEOPLE argument. In my opinion, adding the PEOPLE bit is often done as an apology, although veiled.

"I am a Christian, my family are all Christians, but we have nothing against Jewish PEOPLE." etc. It is often a sign of a guilty conscience. Drop the PEOPLE bit, we all know we are talking about humans and not carrots - it is unnecessary.

 

[w1z4rd]

I think in the context of this thread wizard your comment is very silly. Got anything to add to the actually discussion going on?

You are such a nice and polite person, thanks for being my moral compass.

Nope, Im just commenting that I am African. Its not my fault that the term is used incorrectly, and you being all pmsy wont stop me from mentioning it Perhaps if you get so emotional about what I type you shouldnt respond or read what I write? I dunno... Its a different opinion to yours and it must be difficult to tolerate.

 

[I am Penguin]

O yes Africans need broadband to figure out their government is a F up.

Let me give you an example:

I am African and my government is not delivering so what do i do? Well i go burn schools and throw rocks at cars and then when the election comes along i go vote for the same people that made me throw rocks and burn schools and libraries.

Now i somehow don't think education can fix a mentality problem.

Some even burned their own belongings in protest. Winnie Mandela sweeped up crowds to necklace so called "collaborators" , knowing very well she was lying! Where does that leave humanity?

 

[STS]

O yes Africans need broadband to figure out their government is a F up.

Let me give you an example:

I am African and my government is not delivering so what do i do? Well i go burn schools and throws rocks at cars and then when the election comes along i go vote for the same people that made me throw rocks and burn schools and libraries.

Now i somehow don't think education can fix a mentality problem.

firstly, most elections are unfair. if it's so easy for them to vote fairly and change a government, then why don't we vote in elections unfairly and get the ANC out of power? the african mentality doesn't apply in this case does it?

also, in other african countries where there is conflict, where do they get these guns from? do the africans make them themselves? where do these countries get their military weapons? Sipho in his backyard? no, the white man just sits in his country and feels sorry for africa.

thirdly, africa has a negative image painted of africans, with Mugabe's **** ups and land reform approach messing it up for others. because of the land reform(which the west doesn't like) sanctions have been placed on zimbabwe. this makes it extremely hard to buy food, fuel for tractors, equipment..... and so on. i noticed also during the food shortage in zimbabwe people mostly assumed it was because they took land and didn't know what to do with it. i seldom see people mention that there was a drought at the time too, despite other countries also experiencing it. it takes a real magic man to make a plant grow without any rain.

for the african that burns things down i can point to a 20 that don't. in fact if you think everyone that votes for the ANC burns buildings down then i can understand why you have such a pessimistic view of africa. i'm arguing that this is not the "african way" and that not all black people are like this, that is all. we already agreed on that. i'm not saying white people are to blame either, but to say black people did this to themselves is just wrong in my eyes.

 

[STS]

Actually, back to the black PEOPLE argument. In my opinion, adding the PEOPLE bit is often done as an apology, although veiled.

"I am a Christian, my family are all Christians, but we have nothing against Jewish PEOPLE." etc. It is often a sign of a guilty conscience. Drop the PEOPLE bit, we all know we are talking about humans and not carrots - it is unnecessary.

yes, i'm so sorry for seeing them as people. they'll always remain blacks and we'll always remain whites. that is just a stone throws away from "up whites have to stick together" and "the blacks are ruining this country".

fine, use any words you want. i never said every person on this thread had to change their language, i just read into things with people. you don't have to say "i don't like black people" for it to be obvious, you just pick up things. another give a way is people who post articles belittling black people and call it "interesting" or only start threads that have to do with black people

 

[killadoob]

"i don't like black people" for it to be obvious, you just pick up things. another give a way is people who post articles belittling black people and call it "interesting" or only start threads that have to do with black people

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha OMG comment of the day and sums up Africa to a tee. Corrupt governments are being belittled by the racist white forum user

Classic stuff dude

Trying to convinced you that i am not racist will not work well if you think posting facts is belittling

 

[Mila]

Actually, back to the black PEOPLE argument. In my opinion, adding the PEOPLE bit is often done as an apology, although veiled.

"I am a Christian, my family are all Christians, but we have nothing against Jewish PEOPLE." etc. It is often a sign of a guilty conscience. Drop the PEOPLE bit, we all know we are talking about humans and not carrots - it is unnecessary.

Now you are being horrible to the poor carrots. now you are a veggsit

 

[STS]

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha OMG comment of the day and sums up Africa to a tee. Corrupt governments are being belittled by the racist white forum user

Classic stuff dude

Trying to convinced you that i am not racist will not work well if you think posting facts is belittling

i know you're not racist, i like your other posts, i just couldn't understand why i agree with you on so many things but we disagree on race affecting a leader. i also couldn't understand why you would assume malema's "my buddy."

i've been around enough people who are blatantly racist and others that are deceptively racist. just think to yourself, why did he start the OP? why do people always resort to the arguments "without the white man you guys wouldn't have this" and "without the white man we would of had this."

 

[DreamKing]

firstly, most elections are unfair. if it's so easy for them to vote fairly and change a government, then why don't we vote in elections unfairly and get the ANC out of power? the african mentality doesn't apply in this case does it?

I am not very understand what he is trying to say.......

also, in other african countries where there is conflict, where do they get these guns from? do the africans make them themselves? where do these countries get their military weapons? Sipho in his backyard? no, the white man just sits in his country and feels sorry for africa.

blame evil whites, they invented "gun"

oh..... wait. Chinese invented "gun"! Evil Chinese

thirdly, africa has a negative image painted of africans. with Mugabe's **** ups and land reform approach messing it up for others. because of the land reform(which the west doesn't list) sanctions have been placed on zimbabwe. this makes it extremely hard to buy food, fuel for tractors, equipment..... and so on. i noticed also during the food shortage in zimbabwe people mostly assumed it was because they took land and didn't know what to do with it. i seldom see people mention that there was a drought at the time too, despite other countries experiencing it too. it takes a real magic man to make a plant grow without any rain.

yes, if you consider the zimbabwe is belonged to Mugabe's family ONLY.

for the african that burns things down i can point to a 20 that don't. in fact if you think everyone that votes for the ANC burns buildings down then i can understand why you have such a pessimistic view of africa. i'm arguing that this is not the "african way" and that not all black people are like this, that is all. we already agreed on that. i'm not saying white people are to blame either, but to say black people did this to themselves is just wrong in my eyes.

proved by contradiction - only this point is valid


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[killadoob]

why do people always resort to the arguments "without the white man you guys wouldn't have this" and "without the white man we would of had this."

Why do Black leaders keep using the excuse of the white man, colonialists and apartheid for the piss poor state of their countries? I hear your point about without the white man but think about Africa and how much it relies on AID from other countries. Sadly that AID very rarely gets to where it should. Pockets run deep in Africa.

I dunno i just get the feeling with the way you defend African leaders that you cannot see the obvious facts. I am not saying race does affect a leader i am just saying in Africa it certainly seems to. It seems African leaders are so scared of being pushed out that basically destroy their country so it cannot happen. Maybe you have an explanation as to why African leaders act the way that article i posted portrays them. Maybe you have some idea's why they ruin countries with corruption and violence.

I have no answer why they do it and it saddens to me to see how rich africa is in minerals and possibilities and then i have to face reality and see that even though Africa could be an amazing continent there is basically nothing but poverty, corruption and accepting hand outs to enrich the government leaders.

 

[STS]

I am not very understand what he is trying to say.......

blame evil whites, they invented "gun"

oh..... wait. Chinese invented "gun"! Evil Chinese

they also "sold gun". in the Congo it doesn't matter how good the mining equipment is, if you have a gun you're going to get the diamond. where do those diamonds go? other african countries? or did i miss the history lesson where white men landed here and saw africans covered in diamonds?

yes, if you consider the zimbabwe is belonged to Mugabe's family ONLY.

proved by contradiction - only this point is valid


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YOU FAILED!

are there sanctions on Zimbabwe or not? yes or no? what did i contradict anyway?