Hard Disk pricing is set to raise again

South_Bit said:
It's not an opportunistic increase, it's simply a case of supply and demand.
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Same thing actually. There is simply nothing that forces anyone to increase their prices because there is more demand than supply, hence any increase in indeed opportunistic.
 
Gnome said:
The demand increased because of the news that drive prices *might* increase. However the prices have now increased even before the drives that are currently in circulation have been sold.

The shortage hasn't hit us yet, it was artificially created at this point in time. WD stated publicly that they have at least 5 day worth of supply in their various chains?

It is the same situation as these petrol scares where there is going to be a petrol problem and then nothing happens except that we cannot get petrol because of the scare.
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The same thing happens with shares, currency. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Then the analysts pat themselves on the back for being so clever at predicting the trend.

Two factories are underwater, WD and Toshiba, Seagate is at this point not affected. That also forms part of my reason that the price hike is opportunistic. Either Seagate are increasing it to profit on the floods or Esquire is increasing it even though the Seagate factories are still operational.

If Seagate were to lower their prices now (or even just keep them the same), WD would take a serious financial hit.
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If I were running Seagate I'd raise prices even if I knew we had no supply problems. You know customers have no choice, but to come to you and that your competitors will probably raise prices. The thing is that even if the manufacturers didn't increase their prices someone somewhere in the supply chain would because they can.
 
UPDATE:

Seagate 1 TB is now currently selling at R R699.00 and climbing
Seagate 2 TB is now currently Selling at R 899.00 and climibing
Western Digital 3TB is currently selling at R R1999 and Climbing

If you have not bought your HDD as yet do so now as pricing is expected to go up in even further next week

will keep you updated on the pricing
 
Hehe, I also ordered like 4x Seagate 2TB drives for R853 (incl VAT from Rebeltech) due to this fiasco.
 
I happened to walk past Incredible today and out of interest stopped to check their HDD prices. A 250GB Seagate 2.5" drive that used to be R435 two weeks ago is now R699. Talk about taking it a bit too far.
 
xrapidx said:
I have.

Any hard-drive = data-loss. :)

Its a reason some genius came up with the concept of backup. :p
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Exactly, I have pretty much had equal failure across all types of hard drives, which leads me to think that the factors which lead to such are more related to handling and environment, rather than brand or manufacturer. Look after your hard drives and they will look after you!

oh, yeah... and back up your critical data! ;)
 
Garyvdh said:
Exactly, I have pretty much had equal failure across all types of hard drives, which leads me to think that the factors which lead to such are more related to handling and environment, rather than brand or manufacturer. Look after your hard drives and they will look after you!

oh, yeah... and back up your critical data! ;)
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Definitely agree with the above..

The 2 hard drives that I have lost in the wars was when I was LANning every over weekend and then hauling my PC to Cape Town and back every long holiday when I was still up in Pretoria... Also did the odd hard drive into the friend's PC for a bit trick etc.

Since I'm not LANning that much anymore and my PC tends to stay put in one place I haven't had any problems...

Just a simple example, but I do believe that neither manufacturer's drive tends to fail more than the other in my opinion.
 
Thermal cycling is the biggest wear factor on your drive. Every time you power on and off, there's most of the stress right there. Everything has to warm up and expand, then you power it off and all the components cool down and contract. You'll often find ancient 20GB HDDs that have been running for absolutely ages, non-stop for years and are very healthy because they've been turned on and just left on, hardly ever being turned off. This is their saving grace.

You'll see hard drive specs list the load/un-load cycles in terms of lifespan, it's normally a few hundred thousands.
 
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050374/seagate-barracuda-7200-drives-failing
That's why I lost all faith in Seagate. Correction half the world lost faith in them. They really never recovered after that and people were going for Samsung and WD.
They might get some face back thanks to them buying Samsungs hdd department.

Yes all hdd fail eventually their mechanical but who pays attention to their hardware interrupts.

Here is something interesting. Microsofts hdd drivers got a but/warnings system whatever you call it where after a certain amounts of read writes failure it will drop the drive into dma mode. When that happens uninstalling the driver then a reboot will switch it back to udma. If it happens again then drive failure is imminent. It happened to me once and I kept on uninstalling the driver not really knowing then that is sort of a warning system due to the read write failures.
I lost 1Tbd of porn back then. Lesson learned
 
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