Hardcapped finally?

riggs_9mmp said:
You obviously have a very limited grasp of what's cooking mate. And i use EVERYTHING in that 130Gb I pulled off the net.
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I know exactly what cooking and that is why Telkom is going to pull the plug, because of greedy people like you. Do you think that they are being kind and are giving you 130 gigs of international bandwidth, so that you can download pirated software for your amuzement.

Catch a wake up. They have got a court case coming up with Dotco on the 5 December regarding the new pricing model that they have implemented... and you have just made it possible for them to justify this new model.
 
sunsoffun said:
I know exactly what cooking and that is why Telkom is going to pull the plug, because of greedy people like you. Do you think that they are being kind and are giving you 130 gigs of international bandwidth, so that you can download pirated software for your amuzement.

Catch a wake up. They have got a court case coming up with Dotco on the 5 December regarding the new pricing model that they have implemented... and you have just made it possible for them to justify this new model.
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you are serious about this? i hoped you were kidding but obviously you are an <expletive>. ignore list...
 
@sunsoffun - no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Have you lost your mind ?

The undersea cables can do at least 60GB a second. A second. That's in one second. Do you get that ? Do you understand that ?

Also - teklom purchase internationaly bandwidth from overseas suppliers on a bidding system that changes daily, and typically this bidding system does not work on usage measured in GB, instead it works on the size of the throughput.

Teklom forcing us into a Per-GB nutshell is utter bull. It is a basic business tactic where you try to get away with as much as you can until your clients force you to provide better.

If everybody did 130GB a month, then teklom would be forced to admit that their basic 3GB offering is crap and way too low.

Stop blaming people who actually use the internet.
You are not using the internet, you are simply skimming the internet.
The internet is a WORLD of computers. Like as in - a WORLD of computers.
I used to use about 40 GB a month before teklom introduced capping, I used to communicate with peeps allover the world, sharing experiences and clips of life here and watching clips of life there and it was freaking wonderful.

Teklom killed that wonderful experience. And have redefined the internet as a world of gb chunks, claiming that they need to force us to use as little as possible in one statement, and in another statement thay say we can just buy more, which negates the first statement. Open your freaking eyes to their con-artist tactics already.

/end super long speech :mad:.
 
stoke said:
@sunsoffun - no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Have you lost your mind ?

The undersea cables can do at least 60GB a second. A second. That's in one second. Do you get that ? Do you understand that ?

Also - teklom purchase internationaly bandwidth from overseas suppliers on a bidding system that changes daily, and typically this bidding system does not work on usage measured in GB, instead it works on the size of the throughput.

Teklom forcing us into a Per-GB nutshell is utter bull. It is a basic business tactic where you try to get away with as much as you can until your clients force you to provide better.

If everybody did 130GB a month, then teklom would be forced to admit that their basic 3GB offering is crap and way too low.

Stop blaming people who actually use the internet.
You are not using the internet, you are simply skimming the internet.
The internet is a WORLD of computers. Like as in - a WORLD of computers.
I used to use about 40 GB a month before teklom introduced capping, I used to communicate with peeps allover the world, sharing experiences and clips of life here and watching clips of life there and it was freaking wonderful.

Teklom killed that wonderful experience. And have redefined the internet as a world of gb chunks, claiming that they need to force us to use as little as possible in one statement, and in another statement thay say we can just buy more, which negates the first statement. Open your freaking eyes to their con-artist tactics already.

/end super long speech :mad:.
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Excellent! Well said!
 
stoke said:
I used to use about 40 GB a month before teklom introduced capping, I used to communicate with peeps allover the world, sharing experiences and clips of life here and watching clips of life there and it was freaking wonderful.
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That is fair in most parts, even a little bit modest.

BUT THIS IS SOUTH AFRICA, AND WE ARE CONTROLED BY A MONOPOLY. DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GIVING AWAY 130 GIGS FOR THEIR HEALTH. IT IS A TATIC TO JUSTIFY THEIR NEW BILLING SYSTEM COME DECEMBER 5. PEOPLE FORGET WHAT TELKOM IS ALL ABOUT.

:eek:
 
How will Telkom justify allowing users to download 130+ gb while forbidding ISP's to allow the same?
 
@sunsoffun - Yer point is correct.

Teklom will use the download stats to their advantage.

But - it is going to bite them on the ass. Their new offerings that they're trying to punt will consume more than 3GB easily, and they will not be able to use the "more than 3GB is abuse" excuse for much longer, as their movie offering breaks 1.2GB on just one movie.

I suspect that they will differentiate between local and international bandwidth soon, and change costing accordingly. But that's beside thepoint.

The point is, even if we give teklom all the ammo in the world to call use abusers, teklom will eventually have to admit that we are not abusers, and that they are the handbrake to internet growth in this country. If we all only use 2.9GB a month, then we have absolutely no leg to stand on when teklom do not increase the cap limit.

So - your argument is caught between a rock and a hard place - basically - You have to fight to win. If you don't fight, nothing will change.
 
Oh well sunsoffun you can be guaranteed that the spinning team will quote you 'Some of MyAdsl Forum users expressed shock at the amount of bandwidth used by others, again and again we prove that 3 gigabytes of data is enough for everyone'.
 
Slooth said:
Oh well sunsoffun you can be guaranteed that the spinning team will quote you 'Some of MyAdsl Forum users expressed shock at the amount of bandwidth used by others, again and again we prove that 3 gigabytes of data is enough for everyone'.
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You people are missing the point, I am just against Telkom as anyone else on this forum, because of their policies, pricing and total disregard for us the consumer. But don't you think it is a little bit specious, that they have implemented a hard cap but are allowing people to download up to 160 gigs. People forget that this is Telkom and their tactic's are as sly as a pimp selling off a aids invested prostitute.

Point is they are going to use it against us.
 
Donovan-O said:
How will Telkom justify allowing users to download 130+ gb while forbidding ISP's to allow the same?
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I posted to another thread about this earlier today .. here it is again:


Disclaimer: I do not work for Telkom

Telkom does not force ISPs to hard cap. They are charging them per Gigabytes they are free to distribute the bandwidth anyway they like.

As an analogy, consider a sushi restaurant. Fish are being sold to them per kilogram and they are free to split this up and sell individual portion or go for an all you eat route. The second option involved charging a price for what would be higher than an average person could eat in hope that there will be more people who eat less than this than those who will eat more. Of course, there are strategies you can use to make sure people dont eat too much. I have seen this first hand. At one such restaurant, the waitrons would start to take their time serving you when you have eaten a lot. Another example is the all you can eat ribs, where they only bring you half of the previous portion in twice the time, for each new order.
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I personally think that capping should not be done away with completely, per se. Hardcapping, yes, that is the fruit of the devil. But a structure Telkom should maybe consider implementing is to give a 5Gb cap per month for bandwidth used between 7am Monday morning – 7pm Friday evening . The time used in between ( the weekend ) can be unlimited bandwidth ( local & intl ). Once you reach your allocated 5Gb cap, you get capped intl., but local is still available. This would allow people to still send / receive email, do online banking, encourage the development of decent local websites, check news and sports sites and do online shopping.

Afterthought : by going into partnership with a web hosting company or two, Telkom can also encourage people to get into uploading and maintaining their own websites / blogs etc. This will create opportunities for smaller businesses to get online exposure, more schools having their own websites, and basically increasing local content , to use with your local bandwidth.
 
sunsoffun said:
You people are missing the point, I am just against Telkom as anyone else on this forum, because of their policies, pricing and total disregard for us the consumer. But don't you think it is a little bit specious, that they have implemented a hard cap but are allowing people to download up to 160 gigs. People forget that this is Telkom and their tactic's are as sly as a pimp selling off a aids invested prostitute.

Point is they are going to use it against us.
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I think that was exactly my point.
 
Trent242 said:
I personally think that capping should not be done away with completely, per se. Hardcapping, yes, that is the fruit of the devil. But a structure Telkom should maybe consider implementing is to give a 5Gb cap per month for bandwidth used between 7am Monday morning – 7pm Friday evening
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ANY BROADBAND CONNECTION SHOULD NOT BE CAPPED! God, telkom has really brainwashed you people
 
I have been on the net since the early 90's. I spend at least 16 hours a day online sometime more. There is no-way you can download 130GB of 'legal' electronic information a month. Please explain to me how you managed this?
 
We are in South Africa - The A-Hole end of africa, which does throw a spanner into the works. They cap broadband in many first world countries aswell. The problem is not being capped but the prices that weare paying not to be capped... if that makes sense.

eg. 1meg line with a 3 Gig cap - R200.00 all inclusive.
or 1meg line with a 30 Gig cap - R350.00 all inclusive.
or 1meg line, uncapped - R400.00 all inclusive.

The choise is still yours
 
Sorcerer : It's obvious that it isn't legal.

KillerX : Bandwidth is not unlimited. Look at global trends. And where it is available in an uncapped form being the standard, compare that country's infrastructure with SA.
 
Thanks Trent,

Personally I don't care. I have on many occasions downloaded Warez etc. It would be pretty easy for Telkom to come down hard on 'abusers' by monitoring what they're downloading!
 
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