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Agreed. And what about when carry-over of voice minutes was introduced years ago? Was the system given an "overhaul?"
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Agreed. And what about when carry-over of voice minutes was introduced years ago? Was the system given an "overhaul?"
Csnoopy
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Vertel hulle broe vertel hulle.
It is the protocol to do something at Vodacom. Plus 500 votes ?
Is this the Magic figure. Why not send out 500 sms's to the general ouks out there that do not use the forum & get them to vote.
The data users.
Csnoopy
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What are you complaining about - you are - they have decided bend sounds more flexible.... "bend over our barrel"
nei man hulle sê djy moet oorrol en betaal.
Sony_3G
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I am sure andrew will have something to say to that.
Which Andrew? - there are many Andrews.
The modern cowboys - IT.... For every real professional there must be a hundred irresponsible cowboys.
Somebody get's an idea, "sells it to management", implementatation is rushed and late, then a few million to market it, then sell, then train staff....
Banks locally are famous for it - after all the customer pays..
Csnoopy
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The modern cowboys - IT.... For every real professional there must be a hundred irresponsible cowboys.
Somebody get's an idea, "sells it to management", implementatation is rushed and late, then a few million to market it, then sell, then train staff....
Banks locally are famous for it - after all the customer pays..
ALWAYS
And in line with this prophecy, you pour the unused petrol in your tank down the drain at the end of the month.
In this case we are going nowhere.
What v3g meant there, is that Contract Data Bundles first need to be changed to allow them to run for at least 30 days outside of the confines of any particular calendar month, currently all CDBs run from the 1st of a month to the end of that same month, whereas PPDBs run for 30 days and can span over 2 consecutive months. So, a change needs to be made to make CDBs more flexible, e.g. if you add an Ad-Hoc CDB today, the 14th of June 2007, then the system(s) need to be changed to allow that Ad-Hoc CDB to expire on the 13th of July 2007, and not the 30th of June 2007 which is currently how the system(s) work. It is easy to say that one should just go and change one line in the code for only one of Vodacom's Data Bundle management sytems to extend its validity window from calendar month to say 90 days, but I think that you will see it is not quite that easy, and especially not when one considers that there are other systems involved as well, e.g. the billing system that would probably have a hissy fit and start charging for a rolled-over data bundle that was not yet depleted.And in line with this prophecy, you pour the unused petrol in your tank down the drain at the end of the month.
In this case we are going nowhere.
I'm just saying that, as an outside observer of Vodacom's systems, I think I have a fair idea of the complexities involved, but mostly I just needed to clarify the context of v3g's post that you jumped all over him for.
Csnoopy
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Ag nee man "by default it is 30 days" en nou wat sê jy eintlik. At the end of the day whose money are SP's playing with. They need us more that what we need them.
How about us all go on strike not pay at all and dont use the net for a week.
How about us all go on strike not pay at all and dont use the net for a week.
Actually what I posted there is technically incorrect, as one can add a Bolt-On or Ad-Hoc bundle to one's contract after the 1st of a particular month, but such an added CDB on runs from the date & time of actual activation up to and including the last day of that same month, i.e. not necessarily from the 1st of that same month - unless such a Bolt-On or an Ad-Hoc CDB was added and activated on the 1st of that same month.
You first mate
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AirWolf
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Vodacom made R6billion rand + net profit for the last financial year. Just imagine how fast they would have changed the system if there was a flaw causing them to loose money
Not even fire falling from the sky would have stopped them from correcting that problem.
Not even fire falling from the sky would have stopped them from correcting that problem.Yes, I understand clearly the explanation. I STILL would like to know if Vodacom Execs toss their unused petrol down the drain at the end of the month - as they are expecting us to accept it.
The intricacies of the billing system exists, however they are not the only network operator on the planet. MTN implemented it and it worked well when I used it 2 years back (the different validity period of bundles). When you logged off, you could check your balance and it was updated. Sometimes an adjustment came through later...
They do not have to invent a billing system. It already exists - 80% just lip service. Personally, I suspect their back-haul needs a kick up the backside.
The problem may not actually be the feature/billing system, but the currency of the data.
I have to admit, I was suitably impressed with the ad-hoc bundles. Although I feel that it should roll-over at least.
The other side of me - I am not too sympathetic at hearing of the problems. It fits with a comment I posted elsewhere regarding development/implementation. Stuff get marketed and sold, then made to work - at the customer's expense.
ld13
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Not all users use Data bundles or even Vodacom etc etc.
Yep, I understand where you're coming from, and as a customer you have a right [IMO] to not be sympathetic to Vodacom's current system limitations, but the fact that the limitations exist, does not mean that Vodacom is not making an effort to fix these limitations, what it does mean is that it will take some time for Vodacom to fix the problems, and we all know we are not a patient bunch - if you have read through the Pre-Paid Data Bundles thread you will know that Vodacom got hammered on an almost daily basis for not having PPDBs - this went on for ~2 years until 2007-04-01 when Vodacom finally released PPDBs into production. I expect that this thread will also hammer Vodacom until we eventually get Data Bundle Rollover - it is consumerism in action
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Nope, there isn't a way of doing this, but have a look at my forum signature - everywhere I post serves as a reminder to vote, and I've also added the info into my email signature as have other forumites. So if you want to show your support for the campaign, then consider doing the same
.Yes, 2 years they had to get their systems in place (aka planning) instead of bombarding us with that meerkat entertainment. The question I posted of the fuel down the drain is all that is needed to be answered...This went on for ~2 years until 2007-04-01 when Vodacom finally released PPDBs into production. I expect that this thread will also hammer Vodacom until we eventually get Data Bundle Rollover - it is consumerism in action
Sound like a Vodacom responseNope, there isn't a way of doing this, but have a look at my forum signature - everywhere I post serves as a reminder to vote, and I've also added the info into my email signature as have other forumites. So if you want to show your support for the campaign, then consider doing the same
With all the Vodacom bashing in this thread, one loses sight of this only being one thread. Dammit. Will put the scheme cap on - need votes. Anybody have an angle on a Vodacom4me mailing list by the way.
AirWolf
Honorary Master
How about starting a chain email type thing?
Csnoopy
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1) v3g bashing no.
2) Vodacom bashing YES.
3) Striking or Voting. It depends on which will hurt them the most. At the moment the users are hurting the most. That is why there is a sticky ROLLOVER.
4) Dumping there petrol, noways. You do as I say not as I do.
Enough of all this.
v3g. Can you you tell us how far is the implementation of the ROLLOVER system or are they still waiting for more votes.
2) Vodacom bashing YES.
3) Striking or Voting. It depends on which will hurt them the most. At the moment the users are hurting the most. That is why there is a sticky ROLLOVER.
4) Dumping there petrol, noways. You do as I say not as I do.
Enough of all this.
v3g. Can you you tell us how far is the implementation of the ROLLOVER system or are they still waiting for more votes.
RAS!!!How about starting a chain email type thing?
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