HDD vs SSD

[Chevron]

I have plenty of mechanical drives for storage, I want an SSD to become my primary drive for apps and the OS. But the ones currently on offer are too small for that purpose.
Even an 80 or 120 Gb Drive is too small for a machine that has 12 to 16 TB of other storage. And the higher capacity SSD's are simply ridiculously priced.

Sorry, but it's a fail.

A decent 128gig drive can be had for under R1500 now. :wtf:

 

[Jola]

What about the Samsung 830 SSD's ?

Looking at getting a 256GB for my notebook, at just over USD200 - they seem to be pretty fast ?

 

[drukkie]

I have plenty of mechanical drives for storage, I want an SSD to become my primary drive for apps and the OS. But the ones currently on offer are too small for that purpose.
Even an 80 or 120 Gb Drive is too small for a machine that has 12 to 16 TB of other storage. And the higher capacity SSD's are simply ridiculously priced.

Sorry, but it's a fail.

I fail to see the connection between someone who has 12TB storage and the size of his OS drive?
If you need more than 120GB as an OS you are doing it wrong
4 sure there are lots of things to put on there....but your porn is not one of them

120GB is limiting but you can make it work. and once you do you will never look back.

 

[grok]

HDD for storage, SSD for system and apps. Need both.

Spot on!

 

[bwana]

HDD for storage, SSD for system and apps. Need both.

And if you only have physical space for one?

It's no use, they haven't taken the plunge, they don't understand the logic.

Well no, I haven't because a 500gb ssd is out of my price range and defies logic when compared to the price of a similarly sized hdd.

 

[robdutchmonkey]

I have plenty of mechanical drives for storage, I want an SSD to become my primary drive for apps and the OS. But the ones currently on offer are too small for that purpose.
Even an 80 or 120 Gb Drive is too small for a machine that has 12 to 16 TB of other storage. And the higher capacity SSD's are simply ridiculously priced.

Sorry, but it's a fail.

Lol where is the correlation between the size of an OS drive and the amount of total space you have with mechanical drives?

120gb ssd is easily big enough, in fact, anything over 60gb is enough (60gb is not believe me).

Take mine for example, I have 28TB of mechanical drives, and I still have 50gb free on my ssd and the performance it gives over my old 1TB ssd + music drive was worth the price

 

[unskinnybob]

120GB SSD is fine for primary/OS. I have about 60GB free on my Windows 8 C:\ out of 100GB. 20GB gets used for Ubuntu root.

Using SSD for storing multimedia content is daft. You want to keep the SSD for OS/libs/programs that need load time performance.

Buy a cheap second drive where size > performance. Not that 5400RP vs 7200RPM features anymore in modern SATA disks, but as an example, if you could get a 2TB 5000rpm vs a 1.5TB 7200rpm I'd say grab the extra 500GB since you're not going to feel the performance difference on multimedia type content. Silly example.

 

[sparticus]

Lol where is the correlation between the size of an OS drive and the amount of total space you have with mechanical drives?

120gb ssd is easily big enough, in fact, anything over 60gb is enough (60gb is not believe me).

Take mine for example, I have 28TB of mechanical drives, and I still have 50gb free on my ssd and the performance it gives over my old 1TB ssd + music drive was worth the price

28TB ????? WTF!!!! LOL

 

[LazyLion]

I fail to see the connection between someone who has 12TB storage and the size of his OS drive?
If you need more than 120GB as an OS you are doing it wrong
4 sure there are lots of things to put on there....but your porn is not one of them

120GB is limiting but you can make it work. and once you do you will never look back.

Well, the current size of my OS drive is 320 Gb and that is nearly full (no documents or user files).

So how are you proposing that I squish 320 GB into 128 Gb???

 

[entrepr]

As the market moves rapidly to notebooks and tablets for personal, use, perhaps the hdd will be used for server-storage (not all storage) and ssd for all portable usage.

I keep my whole life mobile with me (favourite music included) but keep the home terabytes for hardly-used archives.

I must say, though, when ssd crashes and you lose absolutely everything without warning, it's pretty disconcerting.

 

[Fudzy]

I must say, though, when ssd crashes and you lose absolutely everything without warning, it's pretty disconcerting.

As opposed to when a HDD crashes?

 

[Fudzy]

Well, the current size of my OS drive is 320 Gb and that is nearly full (no documents or user files).

So how are you proposing that I squish 320 GB into 128 Gb???

What's taking up the space? Games?

 

[kilobits]

For desktops SSDs have never been more attractive. OS disk SSD and storage conventional HDDs. Not-new notebooks are a bit of a meh...

I have a reliable notebook... it has a 320GB drive that is nearly full... I was recently given a new 128GB SSD drive and tried to work with all the other stuff on an external via USB... easy I thought to make do on 128GB. I slapped the 320GB old drive into an enclosure.. and it was horrendous.

What I mean by this is the OS and applications were fantastically fast... the Windows 7 XP mode and other VMs were instantly accessable, but it became a shlepp working off an external USB... waiting for large files to open in photoshop etc off the USB drive... was tedious. I eventually started copying a lot of the frequently used source files from the USB to the SSD and then back again... which became self defeating as the SSD was constantly being written to and re-written to.

My options were a bigger SSD, new laptop with USB3 or external FireWire drive... all expensive options just to use the small 128GB SSD conventionally.

I removed the SSD and gave it to a family member... re-installed the 320GB and now sanity rains.

I have ordered an optical bay 2ndd HDD caddy thing for the laptop and when it arrives I will try the SSD route again, at least the magnetic drive will use the SATA interface and not USB... so it should be very usable.

I found that with notebooks 128GB just does not cut it... need 256GB or ideally a 320GB that will not need a kidney sale to fund.

EDIT: My brother is running a hackintosh... he is doing very nicely with his 128GB SSD as his OS drive, and has about 4TB of magnetic drive as storage... he can never go back to non-SSD OS. Family and friends are being evangelically converted to desktop SSD drives... some as small as 60GBs working perfectly with Windows 7 as OS drives and all the photos, email, music and movies sitting on the 1TB storage drives.

I guess it is all down to what you need accessible on your SSD most of the time. For a lot 90GB / 128GB cuts the mustard.

SSDs are phenomenal upgrades... life changing most of the time, provided you can work within the cost / size constraints.

 

[Tinuva]

28TB ????? WTF!!!! LOL

I am planning on building a fileserver at home which will end up with 36TB for storage, that is after calculating losing space to raid6 parity.

For desktops SSDs have never been more attractive. OS disk SSD and storage conventional HDDs. Not-new notebooks are a bit of a meh...

I have a reliable notebook... it has a 320GB drive that is nearly full... I was recently given a new 128GB SSD drive and tried to work with all the other stuff on an external via USB... easy I thought to make do on 128GB. I slapped the 320GB old drive into an enclosure.. and it was horrendous.

What I mean by this is the OS and applications were fantastically fast... the Windows 7 XP mode and other VMs were instantly accessable, but it became a shlepp working off an external USB... waiting for large files to open in photoshop etc off the USB drive... was tedious. I eventually started copying a lot of the frequently used source files from the USB to the SSD and then back again... which became self defeating as the SSD was constantly being written to and re-written to.

My options were a bigger SSD, new laptop with USB3 or external FireWire drive... all expensive options just to use the small 128GB SSD conventionally.

I removed the SSD and gave it to a family member... re-installed the 320GB and now sanity rains.

I have ordered an optical bay 2ndd HDD caddy thing for the laptop and when it arrives I will try the SSD route again, at least the magnetic drive will use the SATA interface and not USB... so it should be very usable.

I found that with notebooks 128GB just does not cut it... need 256GB or ideally a 320GB that will not need a kidney to fund.

Newer laptops are able to take 2 hdds. This one I am typing on right now, came out with a 20gb SSD + 320gb HDD. I am considering replacing the 320 with a 750gb and the 20gb with a 60-120gb SSD.

 

[Ockie]

“HDD still offers good price per GB ratio, where SSD offers great performance at a slight price premium”, a Kingston rep said.

Is this guy bef@k in his head? Slight? REAALLLYY?

I paid like R1300.00 or something for a 60GB SSD Drive when my laptops HDD failed. A month later my external 1.5TB Toshiba Drive that I used to keep all my movies and stuff on failed also. I got a 2TB Drive at Incredible Connection for R999.00. Slight price premium? REALLLLY???

 

[Fudzy]

Is this guy bef@k in his head? Slight? REAALLLYY?

I paid like R1300.00 or something for a 60GB SSD Drive when my laptops HDD failed. A month later my external 1.5TB Toshiba Drive that I used to keep all my movies and stuff on failed also. I got a 2TB Drive at Incredible Connection for R999.00. Slight price premium? REALLLLY???

Yeah, like mobile data costs

 

[Chevron]

For desktops SSDs have never been more attractive. OS disk SSD and storage conventional HDDs. Not-new notebooks are a bit of a meh...

I have a reliable notebook... it has a 320GB drive that is nearly full... I was recently given a new 128GB SSD drive and tried to work with all the other stuff on an external via USB... easy I thought to make do on 128GB. I slapped the 320GB old drive into an enclosure.. and it was horrendous.

What I mean by this is the OS and applications were fantastically fast... the Windows 7 XP mode and other VMs were instantly accessable, but it became a shlepp working off an external USB... waiting for large files to open in photoshop etc off the USB drive... was tedious. I eventually started copying a lot of the frequently used source files from the USB to the SSD and then back again... which became self defeating as the SSD was constantly being written to and re-written to.

My options were a bigger SSD, new laptop with USB3 or external FireWire drive... all expensive options just to use the small 128GB SSD conventionally.

I removed the SSD and gave it to a family member... re-installed the 320GB and now sanity rains.

I have ordered an optical bay 2ndd HDD caddy thing for the laptop and when it arrives I will try the SSD route again, at least the magnetic drive will use the SATA interface and not USB... so it should be very usable.

I found that with notebooks 128GB just does not cut it... need 256GB or ideally a 320GB that will not need a kidney sale to fund.

EDIT: My brother is running a hackintosh... he is doing very nicely with his 128GB SSD as his OS drive, and has about 4TB of magnetic drive as storage... he can never go back to non-SSD OS. Family and friends are being evangelically converted to desktop SSD drives... some as small as 60GBs working perfectly with Windows 7 as OS drives and all the photos, email, music and movies sitting on the 1TB storage drives.

I guess it is all down to what you need accessible on your SSD most of the time. For a lot 90GB / 128GB cuts the mustard.

SSDs are phenomenal upgrades... life changing most of the time, provided you can work within the cost / size constraints.

Get a laptop that can take two hard drives.

 

[unskinnybob]

Well, the current size of my OS drive is 320 Gb and that is nearly full (no documents or user files).

So how are you proposing that I squish 320 GB into 128 Gb???

Secondary drive. Do you have to run ALL your programs off SSD? I reserve my SSD for OS and core programs. Maybe my most played game if loading time is a factor. Also - your SWAP file shouldn't be on your SSD primary.

60GB is sufficient for primary OS.

You should also redirect your home folder (documents, pics, videos, etc.) to the secondary drive.

 

[LazyLion]

Secondary drive. Do you have to run ALL your programs off SSD? I reserve my SSD for OS and core programs. Maybe my most played game if loading time is a factor. Also - your SWAP file shouldn't be on your SSD primary.

60GB is sufficient for primary OS.

You should also redirect your home folder (documents, pics, videos, etc.) to the secondary drive.

Meh, sounds like way too much work to accomodate all that. I already moved all my documents and user files off... and that is enough of a schlepp as it is.

I don't see the point of going to such lengths to make space for something that is already going to cost me an arm and a leg.

 

[bwana]

I have ordered an optical bay 2ndd HDD caddy thing for the laptop and when it arrives I will try the SSD route again, at least the magnetic drive will use the SATA interface and not USB... so it should be very usable.

I have often considered an optibay but I'm not quite in the position to sacrifice my CD/DVD.

Get a laptop that can take two hard drives.

Moving away from OsX is definitely not a sacrifice I'm willing or able to make.