Headlight flashers to be arrested

ponder said:
If I met you at a garage on the very road they were trapping/roadblock and told you there was a roadblock/trap 3km down the road would that be ok?
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Naah ponder...you know that marine1 would be all self righteous and either personally hand you over to the cops, or intentionally go through the trap at 167km/h, just to prove that he could not be manipulated into beating the law...;)
 
Fazda said:
Naah ponder...you know that marine1 would be all self righteous and either personally hand you over to the cops, or intentionally go through the trap at 167km/h, just to prove that he could not be manipulated into beating the law...;)
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Maybe not all people should be warned. Was driving home one day as the holiday season started and this GP BM m3 guy was on my ass like you can't believe while I was overtaking almost as if he would have liked me to get off the road while not much earlier I contemplated warning the dude that there is a regular speed trap down the hill. So instead of warning him I aborted my overtake (there were still some cars to overtake) found a gap to move back into and let him go which he did at great speed. I eventually saw his car parked at the bottom of the hill with him outside the ca surrounded by cops like he was about to be arrested. I just smiled at the scene and though karma is a biatch :D
 
marine1 said:
I would disagree with pigspotter, by flashing your lights you are breaking the law by informing the oncoming driver of police activity, this is a crime.
Interfering with an officer in the course of his duties or Defeating the ends of justice.
This is even worse if it is a roadblock
I would love to hear from an attorney on this
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Please tell me how "warning an oncoming driver of police activity" is defeating the ends of justice? That's like saying to someone, "the cops are at my house" and you get arrested, because you informed a civilian of the whereabouts of police.

And here's a thought: F**king prove it!

And here another thought: If I flash my lights, I'm warning an individual (or a few) to slow down, thereby inciting them to OBEY the law. Instead of fining these people (who flash their lights), they should give them honourary mention. But alas, this country is a farsaken cesspit of corruption, nepotism, cadreism et cetera.

A post mentioned above, they would rather catch the speeding individuals than do actual police work. Our police are beyond useless, save a few individuals.

It this type of sh*t that make my blood boil... I can't wait to get out of this place...

Sorry, rant over.
 
ponder said:
Maybe not all people should be warned. Was driving home one day as the holiday season started and this GP BM m3 guy was on my ass like you can't believe while I was overtaking almost as if he would have liked me to get off the road while not much earlier I contemplated warning the dude that there is a regular speed trap down the hill. So instead of warning him I aborted my overtake (there were still some cars to overtake) found a gap to move back into and let him go which he did at great speed. I eventually saw his car parked at the bottom of the hill with him outside the ca surrounded by cops like he was about to be arrested. I just smiled at the scene and though karma is a biatch :D
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Thats like saying some criminals should be caught while others needn't ... we're all guilty of speeding because of the cars.. like struggling to drive a brand new car at 60 in a 60 zone.. and then there is the idiotic driver.. who is either between 15 and 35.. who have ego issues...
Also when we have the one partner, family member or friend who just had a fight or bad day... and take it out on the road... every one of these are reckless drivers

People just need to keep cool heads... sit up straight while driving (no main manne).. and obey the rules of the road.. its there for a reason ;)
 
TonyHawk said:
Thats like saying some criminals should be caught while others needn't ... we're all guilty of speeding because of the cars..
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This guy was a prick for driving right on my ass that's why I had no intention of warning him.
 
Wow fazda you are so clever hey? Do you know me personally? No then why not stfu? :D
As for my comments - its my opinion and that is why I said I would like a lawyers opinion.
But hey go ahead and warn people I could care less either way.
 
For those of you who wish to peruse the Traffic Act
http://www.info.gov.za/gazette/acts/1996/a93-96.htm

And the new traffic regulations
http://www.autoworld.co.za/NewsArticle.aspx?Article=7176

The only referance to headlights i could find is from the new traffic regulations:

Driving between sunset and sunrise without lights
Not using dipped beam with oncoming traffic
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"sorry , officer, i was only dipping my headlights per the new regulations" ;)

Wiki gives a nice explanation :
Headlight flashing is commonly used to warn other drivers of dangers on the road, such as crashed cars or police speed traps
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing

Speed traps are dangers, i have seen many drivers adhering to the speed limit, suddenly slam on brakes at the sight of a hidden speed trap, even though they are not over the speed limit, now if you are sitting behind one of these morons and towing a trailer, caravan or boat, instinctively you do the same, this can very easily result in you trailer jacknifing, and could cause an accident.

You cannot be found guilty of Defeating Or Obstructing The Ends Of Justice
http://www.legalcity.net/Index.cfm?fuseaction=RIGHTS.article&ArticleID=1418800

You can be found guilty for Obstructing The Police
To warn a speeding motorist of a speed trap also constitutes obstruction.
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However Before a person can be found guilty of obstructing the police, it must be shown that the police were lawfully exercising their powers or duties.
http://www.legalcity.net/Index.cfm?fuseaction=RIGHTS.article&ArticleID=8094126

Does hiding in the bushes constitute lawfull behaviour on the part of the police, considering it is not visible policing ?

Then of course they have to prove you were actually trying to warn the other motorist.

IMHO, the biggest beef the police seem to have here is not about the actual criminals, but the loss of revenue that speed traps and roadblocks generate, because in essence, thats their sole purpose, to generate revenue.
 
Like has been said before..

This stuff has been all the way to the court of law and the cops got their asses handed to them by the judge....

I hope the North West is prepared for a LOT of very hefty legal fees coming their way for all the wrongful arrest charges that will be brought their way.
 
TonyHawk said:
Sounds like a regular fine payer.. am I right?
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Not at all dude, I think I've received and paid 1 fine - going 71 in a 60 zone.

I'm not condoning this behaviour at all. I'm merely pointing out that the fuzz need to place their resources in more needed areas. I live in Pretoria and there've been more big foot sightings than cop cars on a daily basis - And when you do see them they're usually breaking the traffic rules anyway. I see taxis pulling sh*t you wouldn't believe IN FRONT of the cops.

My girlfriend broke down on the highway, over a bridge, with no emergency lane, with no hazards (electrical issues). A blue light brigade resplendant with about 6 Metro's mach 2'ed past without so much as a how-do-you-do. They're not here to help the people. They're here to help themselves and the retarded f**ks who (don't and can't) run this country.

Yes, the coppaz need revenue, but don't we pay tax?... (Don't answer this because we all know the answer).
 
ponder said:
This guy was a prick for driving right on my ass that's why I had no intention of warning him.
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Do what I do (with time to re-act).. and Brake :D
Just beware road rage drivers.. had a few... else slow down to such an extent that it pisses them off
But yes.. at that time.. I agree you did the right thing... but I just don't believe in warning ANYONE ;)
 
Nanfeishen said:
Speed traps are dangers, i have seen many drivers adhering to the speed limit, suddenly slam on brakes at the sight of a hidden speed trap, even though they are not over the speed limit, now if you are sitting behind one of these morons and towing a trailer, caravan or boat, instinctively you do the same, this can very easily result in you trailer jacknifing, and could cause an accident.
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I can't believe that.. its more like a cop-out... if it were true.. it would be less than 5 %.. so traps are worth it..
You complain about the traps now.. decreasing road law.. imagine driving with reckless taxi's, youngsters and joe public.. without any control

CarsinemiA said:
I live in Pretoria and there've been more big foot sightings than cop cars on a daily basis - And when you do see them they're usually breaking the traffic rules anyway. I see taxis pulling sh*t you wouldn't believe IN FRONT of the cops.
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Thats very bad.. at least I see about 5 traffic-cop/metro's a day.. in Goodwood CT.. seems a central district helps
But believe me.. it still does no good... they hardly react.. well.. guess enough is never enough ;)
 
Ummm actually you will find that there is...


Motor vehicle not registered R 1 000 3
Motor vehicle not licensed R 1 000 3
Motor vehicle with plates not applicable Court 6
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