Heat pump, Good Idea?

surface said:
Installer guy told me that pool heat pump is basically same as aircon but just the other way. As for me, it can have goblins that are dancing inside to produce heat but as long as it heats the pool, I am cool.
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That's exactly what I was told about it. Apparently that's how it works. Much like a fridge or aircon is relying on state change of a coolant within a closed system from liquid to gas to cool the surrounding air, the heat pump is going from gas to liquid to heat the water in your geyser (energy from the state change needs to go somewhere).
 
The heat pump needs to be specced correctly for the size of the pool. If it's too small and the temp is set to high it will never cycle. Same idea as an aircon. Also a pool cover will help a lot.
 
ghaye said:
The heat pump needs to be specced correctly for the size of the pool. If it's too small and the temp is set to high it will never cycle. Same idea as an aircon. Also a pool cover will help a lot.
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Thanks, 12.5kW heat pump for 30K litres. 3 seperate quotes suggested same so I hope that is correct. Got pool cover as well.
 
yea the upside of going heatpump vs sun command panels

you don't sacrifice precious roofspace , which may be needed for photovoltaic panels later if limited roofspace

The other upside is

The heatpump will work irrespective of weather

have had many birthdays that happened to have bad weather the 2days before

calling for some creative pool heating, heatpump would have made it easier
 
I got a 16kw heat pump that heats up a 6X3 pool. Also got 5 of those black pipe panels on the south facing side of my roof. Pool currently at 30 degrees right now. Been like this since middle of August. Also got those PVC pool covers that help keep the pool heat in.

I run the heat pump from 10am until 3pm now to maintain the temp. On the current setup, should expect 0.5-1 degree Celsius rise per hour depending on how hot it is outside.
 
RPG_Fan said:
I got a 16kw heat pump that heats up a 6X3 pool. Also got 5 of those black pipe panels on the south facing side of my roof. Pool currently at 30 degrees right now. Been like this since middle of August. Also got those PVC pool covers that help keep the pool heat in.

I run the heat pump from 10am until 3pm now to maintain the temp. On the current setup, should expect 0.5-1 degree Celsius rise per hour depending on how hot it is outside.
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Wow - 16kW is quite badass. We got 12.5kW pump for 8x3 pool as that is what was recommended from couple of installers. We run it from 9 to 4 and pool temperature is about 28 degrees on an average. Pool cover helps I think.
 
Back to the heat pump for hot water.

Why are the options so limited here? There are essentially two main brands that seem to be in the local market and that's Alliance and ITS - both which I'm not familiar with.

I see Kwikot also provide a solution but I wouldn't trust it further than I can throw it.

Where is LG, Samsung, Daikin and similar brands which have long track records with heat pumps?
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Back to the heat pump for hot water.

Why are the options so limited here? There are essentially two main brands that seem to be in the local market and that's Alliance and ITS - both which I'm not familiar with.

I see Kwikot also provide a solution but I wouldn't trust it further than I can throw it.

Where is LG, Samsung, Daikin and similar brands which have long track records with heat pumps?
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Alliance is very well known in the heating/cooling space...
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Back to the heat pump for hot water.

Why are the options so limited here? There are essentially two main brands that seem to be in the local market and that's Alliance and ITS - both which I'm not familiar with.

I see Kwikot also provide a solution but I wouldn't trust it further than I can throw it.

Where is LG, Samsung, Daikin and similar brands which have long track records with heat pumps?
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ITS are quite common in Western Cape. No problems with their quality that I know of.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Back to the heat pump for hot water.

Why are the options so limited here? There are essentially two main brands that seem to be in the local market and that's Alliance and ITS - both which I'm not familiar with.

I see Kwikot also provide a solution but I wouldn't trust it further than I can throw it.

Where is LG, Samsung, Daikin and similar brands which have long track records with heat pumps?
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In our complex of 50+ units, we have mostly splash pools in 9 units (google earth ftw) and none of them have pool heater. I know of 3-4 families that have houses on 1000sqm+ stands and even they don't have more than 8x3 sized pools and no pool heater either.

When I enquired about pool & heating, I was told that it is a bottomless pit that you throw your money in so maybe there is no demand for this if that is what majority think ? No demand so no supply.
 
surface said:
In our complex of 50+ units, we have mostly splash pools in 9 units (google earth ftw) and none of them have pool heater. I know of 3-4 families that have houses on 1000sqm+ stands and even they don't have more than 8x3 sized pools and no pool heater either.

When I enquired about pool & heating, I was told that it is a bottomless pit that you throw your money in so maybe there is no demand for this if that is what majority think ? No demand so no supply.
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I've popped off an email to my local AC guy that I've worked with before, they're an official Daikin dealer so asked them if there are any options. Will update if I get any info on this.
 
I wonder if is there is a gas based heating solution for swimming pool heating yet?
 
surface said:
In our complex of 50+ units, we have mostly splash pools in 9 units (google earth ftw) and none of them have pool heater. I know of 3-4 families that have houses on 1000sqm+ stands and even they don't have more than 8x3 sized pools and no pool heater either.

When I enquired about pool & heating, I was told that it is a bottomless pit that you throw your money in so maybe there is no demand for this if that is what majority think ? No demand so no supply.
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Did you end up in installing a heat pump? How is the electricity consumption?
 
Smokey888 said:
Did you end up in installing a heat pump? How is the electricity consumption?
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Yeah, installed heat pump - works off solar mostly but is on non-essential so it stops during LS - will consider putting it on essential soon. Also, I think once I get prepaid meter, it should cost me less than R100 for electricity per month.

Currently temperature is lovely to swim - 29-31 degrees and curious to see what happens in winter. :cool:
 
surface said:
Yeah, installed heat pump - works off solar mostly but is on non-essential so it stops during LS - will consider putting it on essential soon. Also, I think once I get prepaid meter, it should cost me less than R100 for electricity per month.

Currently temperature is lovely to swim - 29-31 degrees and curious to see what happens in winter. :cool:
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I don't have solor yet so very curious on the costs.
 
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