Help on choosing a coffee machine.

dayav07

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Hi.

I am new to the whole idea of a coffee machine, been using a kettle and normal Nescafe but I want to try something new lol.

I am looking for something that can make espresso as well as take ground coffee beans (would also help if it had a built in milk frother and grinder but no biggie).

Price range is not more than 3k.

Any ideas? :D:)
 
Price range is not more than 3k
That could be too low for a good bean-to-cup machine. I have the Jura F50, and it has worked perfectly for the last 4 years. It cost me R10K when I bought it.

But try look at other makes (search for them), e,g, Breville / Sprada / Nespresso

.. here's a couple (one actually :twisted:) within your budget ... you are going to have to up your budget

http://www.pricecheck.co.za/categories/817/Coffee+&+Espresso+Machines/
 
Try looking at Dion Wired, They have a Hot2Go section on demo machines, i picked up a machine for R3000 there

A Krups Automatic.
 
Nespresso locks you into their products at an average of around R6.00 a cup.

It's really not that bad value for the quality you get. Cost per pod is approximately R5 to R7. I really like the variety and tastes. It has to be seen as an alternative to your usual fix from say Nescafe.

That's right, you have to buy their capsules. I like the design of their machines though

I got a machine which does either the espresso or pot of coffee. It was around R2000, but it is such a schlep to make a pot. Personally, if I had to make the choice now, I'd go with the Nespresso. Simple and easy to use. It's also very easy on the eye.
 
Theres an important decision you need to make - do you want a fully automatic machine, or a manual machine? The difference being that with a fully automatic machine you dont really have a choice about how the extraction of the espresso would be but its easy one button and u have coffee. With a manual machine its a bit more effort but you can alter the grind, the tamp pressure and the extraction time to produce a different espresso shot that suits your taste and the bean - this is important as all coffees are natural and different.

I have a Breville 860 espresso machine. It is manually operated although you can save certain settings (such as extraction length). It has a grinder and steam wand built into it so its a great all rounder. The downfall is that it is thermoblock machine. This means that there is a block that is heated up and when the water passes over it heats the water. Thermoblocks are usually frowned upon as they cannot maintain a constant temperature during extraction. And because this machine only has one thermoblock, you can only use the espresso extraction or steam wand at a given time (but not both). Not a big deal if youre just a home user.

For anything higher end, you will end up paying higher and higher prices. The Breville 860 is about R4500 or so from @home. I havent come across anything in the same price range that has the same features. If you really enjoy coffee, I would stay away from fully automatic machine. And if youre willng to spend, I would go with something a bit higher end - something with a boiler instead of a thermoblock. Once youve defined a budget and a choice between auto or manual, we can refine what your choices are.
 
Funnily - spiderz is right. Some of the most hardcore coffee lovers swear that bodums produce the best tasting coffee!
 
Theres an important decision you need to make - do you want a fully automatic machine, or a manual machine? The difference being that with a fully automatic machine you dont really have a choice about how the extraction of the espresso would be but its easy one button and u have coffee. With a manual machine its a bit more effort but you can alter the grind, the tamp pressure and the extraction time to produce a different espresso shot that suits your taste and the bean - this is important as all coffees are natural and different.
[-]I'm not sure I'm following you.[/-] You're mistaken. With my delonghi I press the button to start the process and at anytime I can stop the flow by pressing the same button a second time - I can also run it longer by holding the button down. I can also adjust the grind at any time.
 
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Extraction time has 2 factors 2 it. What you are referring to is the ml of water being squirted through the machine. The other factor is the resistance that the grind has against the flow of water. Both these factors affect the extraction time. With a manual machine you can alter the resistance for more effectively through grind, tamp and dose. With an auto machine you cannot. Simply increasing or decreasing the ml of liquid through the machine will result in poor tasting coffee that is either over or under extracted.
 
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