Home computers harm children's test results

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I think it should really be a lack of parental control which leads to lower test marks. The study is blaming the tool rather than the operator of the tool.

Source: Daily Telegraph

Access to PCs and high-speed broadband can lead to a decline in test scores among young people, it was claimed.

The study suggested that computers could provide a distraction for schoolchildren as they spend hours socialising with friends and playing games.

But the latest report found that children from poor households did worse in maths and reading tests when they had a computer at home.

Prof Jacob Vigdor, who co-wrote the report, said: “Adults may think of computer technology as a productivity tool, but the average kid doesn't share that perception.”

The study compared children’s computer use and exam results between 2000 and 2005 – a period when home computers and high-speed internet access expanded dramatically.

By 2005, broadband was available in almost every area covered in the study, which featured more than 150,000 schoolchildren in the US.

Researchers compared the same children's reading and maths scores before and after they had access to a home computer. Pupils with and without the technology were also compared.

Academics found that computers had “modest but statistically significant and persistent negative impacts” on maths and reading test scores.

The study stopped in 2005, before the boom in social networking websites such as Facebook, which academics suggested may hinder children's grades further.
 
That's exactly the same thing I thought when I read the article on slashdot! :)
 
I put it down to parents no understand computers and not knowing how to implement in the home environment (aka Poor parental control).

I know of many of these parents and they do not understand how their computer wiz-kid that spends 12hours a day on WOW is a dumb knuckle.
 
Yes, WOW is a problem here, but really would reading comics all day in a library deem the library as harmful too?

Wish my library had comics while growing up :) ... but yes, I agree with your point. A parent needs to supervise a child and offer guidance. One thing to kick back and have some fun (WOW / Comic Books) but another to spend your entire life encompassed by it.
 
Extremely close monitoring is the only way kids should be allowed on the internet, there are way too many shock sites out there for them to accidentally come across goatse man or even worse, 2 girls 1 cup. Can you imagine trying to explain that to a kid?
 
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Eish, can you not tell the difference between unusual sexual fetishes and a dog taking a dump on the lawn? At that age I'm pretty sure what they are seeing will go over the child's head. I'm talking about when they are a bit more clued up about things.
 
I put it down to parents no understand computers and not knowing how to implement in the home environment (aka Poor parental control).

I know of many of these parents and they do not understand how their computer wiz-kid that spends 12hours a day on WOW is a dumb knuckle.

+1. The PC is a awesome learning tool for young minds and those actually interested in the technology itself but lack of supervision is most likely the problem.
 
If I am reading it correctly this is being seen in students from poor families. I'm curious though as to why this is seen with computers, but not with all the other things a child can find to do. Is it that some parents think interactive toys and computers are inherently educational, so they can leave their children using them?

Adults may think of computer technology as a productivity tool
Only if they're doing a lot of moonshine.
 
The Truth

"The research suggested that schemes to expand home computer access would lead to wider gaps between test scores of advantaged and disadvantaged students."

What is exactly is meant by advantaged and disadvantaged here:

John and Peter both have a pc. John scores mostly A's at school, Peter averages D's and Ef's.

Zoom in:

John has parents who enjoy reading, they are regular readers, in primary school John could read and write fluently by end of Grade 1.
Peter has parents who watch mostly television and rarely read, in primary school Peter did not read and write fluently by end of Grade 1.

Jump to high school:

John plays TF2 online and enjoys debating with buddies online.
Peter plays Grand Theft Auto and enjoys looking at pictures online.

John spends 99% of his free time online, or on his pc, he watches movies, anime, plays games and is a member of two forums, does Java and Python for a hobby.
Peter spends 70% of his free time online, or on his pc, gaming, watching movies, and browsing pictures, and talking to buddies on mixit and Facebook.
(he spends less time on his pc than John because his parents punishes him for his low grades and then watches tv instead)

Okay, so here we have two boys, each with the same material level of living. John and Peter both live in modern homes with broadband access.

What is the difference:

John is advantaged because he has parents who enjoy reading.
Peter is disadvantaged because he has parents who don't enjoy reading.

The computer, toaster, vacuum cleaner and dishwasher is blamed for Peter's low grades.
The only flack John gets is that his family would like him to spend more time with them.

The difference is cultural and has nothing to do with the dishwasher or computer.

I want to make it clear, that I have personally experienced the above scenario, I have changed the names of the two boys. ( I know both boys very well)
 
Internet is a step in evolution, i think that what needs to happen is that the education system and how people hire should change, as computers and machines do so well and are only imporving in automating things, in the future the workforce would need to be more specialised and people should adjust around this for them to find beloning in the workplace.

"Everything that can be replaced by a machine, Should be replaced by a machine", having people taking a three decades to study acounting, when a computer can do the same amount at of work at millions of time the productivity that person had to be learnt to do, why should we hire this person? Peopls should seek specialised work that could actually serve the purpose of work, which is to solve problems which need solving and to progress humanity, and not simly to act parrot all the time.

Absolutely! IMO the general consensus is that “we know best (because that’s the way we did it) therefore we will impose our beliefs on our children.” What if the ‘parents’ don’t know best? What if a new educational paradigm is needed rather than repeating the same tired old paradigm and bluffing yourself that “it’s for the children’s own good”? Society is constantly evolving. Now in the 21st century and holding-up a 19th century educational paradigm as the ‘best’ education? What if most modern parents are dickheads?
 
It's not about being a teen rebel and claiming that no one understands you and that one day you'll outsmart everyone. It's simply the susceptibility of children (and adults) to screw about and browse random sites than doing work, whether it be school work, work for your boss or research for your university/institution. If a child has been taught discipline and self-control from early on, it will be way less susceptible to wasting time instead of doing homework and THEN wasting time (this be John as a previous poster mentioned). The opposite obviously applies.
 
It's interest. Create an interest in the child, for the things that will benefit them in learning various subjects.

Someone recently started teaching kids with maths learning problems, how to learn interesting Pythagorean geometry and through it, maths concepts. Instant great results.
 
I doubt it is that simple.

Of course not, I agree with you and not all cases are due to bad reading and writing skills, but it most often is. The inability to read comprehensively is one of the biggest influencing factors when children fail at school.

Every child I know of (and I was a computer teacher) who failed or achieved consistently low marks, came from homes where children were not read to as toddlers and where reading was not part of the family culture.

A child that has weak reading skills, inevitably also has bad writing and spelling skills. This inability to do comprehensive reading then causes lower and lower achievements as that child progresses to more senior grades. This inability to read well, does not indicate a lack of intelligence, simply a lack of a fundamental skill, which unfortunately influences that childs overall progression academically for the rest of their lives. Weak readers rarely achieve university level, but not all weak readers are unsuccessful in life or at higher learning colleges where more practical skills are taught and less emphasis is on reading 600 page textbooks as in university.

Comprehensive reading is a skill that has great advantages, it promotes excellent communication skills, both vocal and written, it also promotes the ability to comprehend what is being read, it increases overall academic fluency.

A parent who consistently reads to their preschool child and engages in conversation with that child is a parent who is giving their child the fundamental skills needed to build on.

A parent who fails to read to their pre-school child and fails to have proper interactive conversations with them, is failing to give their child the fundamental skill to build on.

John was read to every day from birth, his mother engaged in long conversations with him, he was carried around on the hip and taught the names of every visible object within the home and environment, John was lucky, he developed a comprehensive neural tree from birth.

For John, learning languages whether english, afrikaans, xhosa , music or mathematics or C++ is not a challenge, for Peter they are obstacles to overcome, and so Peter loses interest in school, debilitated by his poor comprehension skills, he resorts to activities that does not involve comprehensive reading.

Peter uses his pc to play games, watch movies and chat on Facebook or mixit, John uses his pc to play games, watch movies, interact in debates on forums, to compile programs and attain high level photoshop skills.

John comes from a home where one parent is an engineer and the other parent is a writer, they have an extensive library, Johns dad plays piano, has an extensive technical workshop (wood/metal/glass), his mom reads extensively, is a writer, makes jewelery, design websites, does gardening, photography, and other crafts.

Peters parents have no hobbies, are superstitious, watch a lot of tv and do a lot of shopping.

John and Peter are nephews.

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Of course not, I agree with you and not all cases are due to bad reading and writing skills, but it most often is. The inability to read comprehensively is one of the biggest influencing factors when children fail at school.

Every child I know of (and I was a computer teacher) who failed or achieved consistently low marks, came from homes where children were not read to as toddlers and where reading was not part of the family culture.

A child that has weak reading skills, inevitably also has bad writing and spelling skills. This inability to do comprehensive reading then causes lower and lower achievements as that child progresses to more senior grades. This inability to read well, does not indicate a lack of intelligence, simply a lack of a fundamental skill, which unfortunately influences that childs overall progression academically for the rest of their lives. Weak readers rarely achieve university level, but not all weak readers are unsuccessful in life or at higher learning colleges where more practical skills are taught and less emphasis is on reading 600 page textbooks as in university.

Comprehensive reading is a skill that has great advantages, it promotes excellent communication skills, both vocal and written, it also promotes the ability to comprehend what is being read, it increases overall academic fluency.

A parent who consistently reads to their preschool child and engages in conversation with that child is a parent who is giving their child the fundamental skills needed to build on.

A parent who fails to read to their pre-school child and fails to have proper interactive conversations with them, is failing to give their child the fundamental skill to build on.

John was read to every day from birth, his mother engaged in long conversations with him, he was carried around on the hip and taught the names of every visible object within the home and environment, John was lucky, he developed a comprehensive neural tree from birth.

For John, learning languages whether english, afrikaans, xhosa , music or mathematics or C++ is not a challenge, for Peter they are obstacles to overcome, and so Peter loses interest in school, debilitated by his poor comprehension skills, he resorts to activities that does not involve comprehensive reading.

Peter uses his pc to play games, watch movies and chat on Facebook or mixit, John uses his pc to play games, watch movies, interact in debates on forums, to compile programs and attain high level photoshop skills.

John comes from a home where one parent is an engineer and the other parent is a writer, they have an extensive library, Johns dad plays piano, has an extensive technical workshop (wood/metal/glass), his mom reads extensively, is a writer, makes jewelery, design websites, does gardening, photography, and other crafts.

Peters parents have no hobbies, are superstitious, watch a lot of tv and do a lot of shopping.

John and Peter are nephews.

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Hmmmm. I don’t buy that totally. I am 90% sure that your definition of ‘reading’ is quite narrow. The reading you are talking about (where you read for pleasure) requires a personality where information is processed visually and ‘word pictures’ are constructed in your imagination. Not everyone is like that.

For example (speaking generally)
An auditory-type personality may be a musician who is more adept at reading musical notation where ‘word sounds’ are constructed in the imagination. He (or she) may possess ‘perfect pitch’. Same with mathematical notation. Blueprints, plans, art, etc. They all require different forms of literacy.

An illiterate (by your definition) fisherman of yore may be adept at ‘reading’ the weather for the following day. This could be an unconscious combination of visual (sky), tactile (humidity), smell (damp earth) and auditory (the way sound carries – air pressure) cues. He is only illiterate by your definition.

An international traveler would be able to make sense of the pictorial signs in an airport (even if they don’t speak the local language). They would just be splodges of colour to a pygmy from the Congo. However, if the international traveler was to be transported to a Congo rainforest, the pygmy would be far more adept at reading the environment. Different strokes...

A new educational paradigm should include semiotics (language of signs) and observation of the environment IMO.
 
Every child I know of (and I was a computer teacher) who failed or achieved consistently low marks, came from homes where children were not read to as toddlers and where reading was not part of the family culture.
What I see is not that matters whether the parents enjoy reading or even whether they read themselves, but whether they are involved with their child. Reading to a child for instance requires an interest in the child and even parents who don't normally read themselves can do. Particularly since the appropriate books are simple, short and don't require an extensive attention span.

You don't say whether Peter's parents are similarly educated.
 
I agree with you Palimino, our education system is biased in favour of a typical western education ( very much based on good comprehension skills), and not enough time or effort is given for children who have other skills or aptitudes, and many of these children who have excellent primal intelligence fall by the wayside because the education system is full of holes and don't cater for the more hands-on practical type of personality.

Noxibox, Peter has parents who both passed matric with exemption. John has one parent who has less formal education than Peters parents (but more self taught education) and one parent with an university degree. You are also right, reading does not stand on it's own as an indicator, parental involvement does have a huge impact and does influence the overall educational progression and confidence of a child.
 
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I cannot believe that computers are harmful to childrens school marks. Their parents should ensure that they don't spend to much time infront of the computer( yes to much time there can be bad).
Computers are an important part of our day to day life.
Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing
 
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