Hospitals on "High alert"

Flanders post made an assumption that Private Hospitals were equipped better to handle these outbreaks. Well most of the best infectious disease specialists
and public health authorities work for the State but anyhow even failing that, it was a private facility which did not contain the outbreak in the first place.

I think the assumption was that rather than a general outbreak occurring with lots of people being affected.
 
There was a woman from the communiocable diseases place on 702 this morning saying that it is difficult to contract whatever it is. I can understand that you don't want people to panic but to me flu like symptoms include coughing and sneezing with attendant spraying of bodily fluids all over the show.

Is this another 'non-crysis'?
 
Albereth said:
There was a woman from the communiocable diseases place on 702 this morning saying that it is difficult to contract whatever it is. I can understand that you don't want people to panic but to me flu like symptoms include coughing and sneezing with attendant spraying of bodily fluids all over the show.

Is this another 'non-crysis'?
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Its still debatable how difficult it is. So far they haven't ID'd it. Perhaps they gauged the exposure level of the sister and cleaner who died. Is MediClinic actually putting its staff in quarantine?
 
Once this type of problem hits the news, people start to act, it will be controlled quickly, with little fall out. Ebola and other viruses have been controlled in another countries like Gabon, Gambia etc and they do not have any technology.

When the UK and USA suspend flights from SA then there is a problem !!
 
PeterCH said:
Flanders post made an assumption that Private Hospitals were equipped better to handle these outbreaks. Well most of the best infectious disease specialists
and public health authorities work for the State but anyhow even failing that, it was a private facility which did not contain the outbreak in the first place.

I think the assumption was that rather than a general outbreak occurring with lots of people being affected.
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How exactly are they supposed to know to contain an outbreak when the outbreak had not happened yet? They supposed to assume every person walking in has ebola? They don't even have a clue as to what it is yet.
 
PrivateInSa said:
Once this type of problem hits the news, people start to act, it will be controlled quickly, with little fall out. Ebola and other viruses have been controlled in another countries like Gabon, Gambia etc and they do not have any technology.

When the UK and USA suspend flights from SA then there is a problem !!
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I hope so. I get the idea that SA is under prepared to handle such crisis,
we don't have our own CDC for example or EU equivalents, yet we are in
Africa - and tropical Africa is where most of these serious
viruses originate.
 
HumanoidTyphoon said:
How exactly are they supposed to know to contain an outbreak when the outbreak had not happened yet? They supposed to assume every person walking in has ebola? They don't even have a clue as to what it is yet.
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A seriously ill person with an unknown febrile (fever) illness needed transport and admission. So far 3 contacts have died. I'm not saying this is specifically
ebola but people are dropping life flies.

Is the source hospital doing enough to contain the outbreak?
 
I am supposed to take my wife to her specialist tomorrow, he's in the Morningside Medi-Clinic rooms. Im starting to think if it's such a wise idea?
 
PrivateInSa said:
Once this type of problem hits the news, people start to act, it will be controlled quickly, with little fall out. Ebola and other viruses have been controlled in another countries like Gabon, Gambia etc and they do not have any technology.

When the UK and USA suspend flights from SA then there is a problem !!
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Containment in many of those countries you mention is far simpler than here where we have townships of several hundred thousand if not millions of people. The Ebola and other viruses are typically (even here) isolated to smaller communities scattered in very rural environments. Containment of a virus in a small community is easier (not only due to the logistical implications), but also due to the virus being less likely to mutate and develop resistance to medication and immune system responses.
 
Turiko said:
You keep asking this question. Perhaps you can answer your own question and in so doing, answer it for us.
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Answering such a question is not as simple as telling someone to pop
a jumper or use a different driver setting. We certainly don't have the details.

My point is that people must not overlook this. It could become more
nasty than it is (and I don't mean epidemic proportions) but people
need to be vigilant for incoming information.
 
My problem is this. Say we have one of these nice infectious diseases - hospital manages to ID it after a day - and plonks said infected person into quarantine.

This means we've had a day of some random sick person coughing and sneezing all over the place - around people with no protection. Wonderful.

Furthermore, these people - nurses, cleaners and whatnot go home and - we're talking 72 hrs from infection to death here, so this thing works bloody fast - infect their families. If something like this gets into the townships we have serious issues.

Anyways, we don't have anything concrete yet, so there's no point in starting to panic.
 
Generator Man said:
She's not going to the clinic as such, just the specialist has his rooms in the building.
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Yes but will you use the same entrance? Do the same cleaners clean those rooms? Does the ventilation circulate between those rooms and the main clinic.

Look in most likelihood it should be safe. In your place however I would
probably put the visit off a bit if possible or use a different specialist
temporarily. That's what I would do. It's probably playing it TOO SAFE
but 2 employees have died and we don't have full facts.
 
Look I'm not saying that any infectious agent is in the ventilation system but if any employees are ill and haven't been picked up yet, that's the most likely place you'll find them.
 
shadowfox said:
My problem is this. Say we have one of these nice infectious diseases - hospital manages to ID it after a day - and plonks said infected person into quarantine.

This means we've had a day of some random sick person coughing and sneezing all over the place - around people with no protection. Wonderful.

Furthermore, these people - nurses, cleaners and whatnot go home and - we're talking 72 hrs from infection to death here, so this thing works bloody fast - infect their families. If something like this gets into the townships we have serious issues.

Anyways, we don't have anything concrete yet, so there's no point in starting to panic.
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Many times nothing concreate materialises. The material is sent to the CDC or somewhere else and only after various testing is something found, perhaps some time after the initial outbreak has exhausted itself.

Your concerns about exposure to families are valid.

CDC.gov doesn't mention anything about this.
 
PeterCH said:
Yes but will you use the same entrance? Do the same cleaners clean those rooms? Does the ventilation circulate between those rooms and the main clinic.

Look in most likelihood it should be safe. In your place however I would
probably put the visit off a bit if possible or use a different specialist
temporarily. That's what I would do. It's probably playing it TOO SAFE
but 2 employees have died and we don't have full facts.
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you are right.
 
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