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Hi there

This is your chance to tell 8ta how they can improve. Please tell 8ta where they fall short and what they can do to make you a happier customer.

Please try to steer clear of obvious suggestions like “cut prices”, and try to give valuable input about the company’s products and services.

  • Which new products would you like to see?
  • Are there areas where 8ta can improve its support?
  • Can they make it easier for you to buy their products?
  • Where do you think the company is losing ground against its competitors?
By giving your input you will stand a chance of winning a Sony 10’’ 32GB Android Tablet PC or branded gear bundles.

Please post all your feedback to 8ta in this thread.
 
I would like to see 8ta making it easier to order/buy their products. It is currently very challenging to purchase an 8ta data package, even on prepaid. I think making it easier to buy an 8ta data product will boost sales and create happier subscribers.
 
1. I would like to see 8ta introduce a range of different broad band packages. I would like options. not simply data cap options
2. Other than twitter I do not know of any other ways to contact 8ta. I have my 8ta sim in my laptop. I would like to see USSD assistance.
3. It would be easier if I could be able to purchase 8ta bundles directly from my bank. I dont like buying airtime and then still needing to convert it to data.
4. 8ta needs better coverage.

Hi there

This is your chance to tell 8ta how they can improve. Please tell 8ta where they fall short and what they can do to make you a happier customer.

Please try to steer clear of obvious suggestions like “cut prices”, and try to give valuable input about the company’s products and services.

  • Which new products would you like to see?
  • Are there areas where 8ta can improve its support?
  • Can they make it easier for you to buy their products?
  • Where do you think the company is losing ground against its competitors?
By giving your input you will stand a chance of winning a Sony 10’’ 32GB Android Tablet PC or branded gear bundles.

Please post all your feedback to 8ta in this thread.
 
I would like to see an offering similar to their 60+60GB but with half the data. Something like 30+30GB for R900. I don't need 120GB of data but I was pretty much forced to buy it as no other prepaid offering came close with regards to cost per GB. Other people however will look elsewhere as they might not be able to pay the initial R1800 fee.

Monthly SMS notifications of my remaining data balance would also be nice.
 
I would like to see an uncapped bundle offer
Erect more towers to improve coverage
Do not overload the system so data speeds slow to a trickle
Be able to purchase data on line, not the cumbersome affair of converting airtime, etc

I think they have improved greatly since they started
 
Wanted: an easier way to check your data bundle balance!

I haven't managed to get the USSD codes to work, and apparently there's no way to check online as there is with MyVodacom, leaving me having to carry out the regular schlepp of having to take the SIM out of the modem and put it in a phone. Can't be rocket science, surely?

Otherwise, great service in my area, good strong signal and latency, thanks guys and hope it stays that way.
 
Increase your coverage. I like only 150km outside GP yet can't get 8ta coverage and the MTN roaming is useless because the MTN network even with good coverage is creaky as hell.
 
Wanted: an easier way to check your data bundle balance!

I haven't managed to get the USSD codes to work, and apparently there's no way to check online as there is with MyVodacom, leaving me having to carry out the regular schlepp of having to take the SIM out of the modem and put it in a phone. Can't be rocket science, surely?

Otherwise, great service in my area, good strong signal and latency, thanks guys and hope it stays that way.
You can check online. In fact if you log in on the 8ta site using the connection that you want to check then it will do it all automatically.
 
They must test their billing systems and TRAIN THEIR STAFF before they roll out new products, the month<>month option is not available at the Telkom stores for the sales agents to sell product. I'm tired of telling the store managers about products. WTF..

The DATA Max product has been out for 3 weeks, they still can't issue the month to month package. The guy at the shop got the promo email, but he never read it... LIKE SERIOUSLY..

rant.. done.. HOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAA
 
Everyone in South Africa is already on a cellphone network. Therefore to get customers, 8ta needs to take them away from the other networks. People aren’t going to move to another network if they are going to get exactly the same thing that they were originally getting. So 8ta has to be different in some way(s) to the other networks. MTN and Vodacom are identical – goodish coverage, average service, bureaucratic and inflexible, all for a premium. CellC is trying to give itself an image of better value for money than Voda and MTN, but people still think its coverage and network quality is poor (don’t know if this is true or not)

But what makes 8ta different? I don’t know? I don't even know what 8ta stands for - is it an upmarket network, a lower end network, does it compete on price or quality? All I know is that it is Telkom's mobile division (which isn't an inspiring image due to Telkoms image). As cheesy as it sounds, 8ta needs an exciting slogan – powered by Telkom doesn’t do much for me.

8ta can become 'different' by offering different things (although this is limited to a degree), excellent service (just good enough service doesn't differentiate it from the other networks), being more flexible (shorter contract terms) or significantly better prices and value for money (although being cheaper is the best way to get customers, I know management will never do that :p]

I think 8ta should focus on offering different products and being more flexible than the other networks. Pricing is important but I know management love their margins. But by offering different products/services to other networks, it makes it harder for people to make direct comparisons between networks based solely on price thus avoiding this. Service is important so maintain an adequate level here, but this is trickier and more time and resource consuming than the other options. A quality network is a given – i.e. low dropped calls, good backhaul capacity, place more towers in areas with congestion etc.

Make it – 8ta is new (smaller coverage) and we approach things differently, so if you’re not smiling from your current network/setup, come to us and we’ll show you a different way of thinking. Break the mould. You actually need to advertise, I haven’t seen a single 8ta advertisement in months.

I think 8ta can very easily offer different data solutions, as their mindset is already that 3g is overpriced and the caps are far too small. For example:
-High cap data bundles (8ta already does this to a degree through the 60gb+60gb special and internet promo 5 bundles) – for individuals who can’t get ADSL (no lines) and need lots of data (provide more options – 10gb – 50gb a month from R200 a month to R500 a month etc.) – their primary connection
-Mid cap bundles – for people who use 3G already on other networks as a secondary/mobile connection, but who always run out of their 2gb and pay OOB rates/find it overpriced. Offer 5gb for R150.
-Low end bundles – for lower income users who want to experience the internet, but can’t afford any more than R50-R100 a month (incl. modem) on it. Could also offer cheap tablets (Like R1000 ones) with data. Obviously this targets lower income people, so 8ta needs to improve its coverage in the townships – currently quite poor as per the coverage maps (Soweto has 1 or 2 towers if I remember correctly.)
-Flexible ways to obtain these bundles – 24 month contract, 12 month contract, 12 month prepaid, 1 month prepaid etc. – obviously make it cheaper for people who sign 24 month contracts than for 1 month prepaid etc. – reward loyalty, decrease costs (from 8ta’s side).

For voice, this is trickier. 8ta’s voice packages are not cheap and they are no different to the other networks. 8ta needs things like 99c peak time rates, free calls to 2 other 8ta numbers, unlimited calls for business people and social tigers. Mobile operators are very inflexible when it comes to voice rates because these give them the best margins. So 8ta needs to change this significantly for there to be any uptake for their voice packages, but I am sure there would be strong resistance from management in this area.

Same thing for SMS as for voice. SMS’s out of bundle should be 10c max if that…

Coverage
Finish covering the major cities in their entirety - can't have parts of Johannesburg northern suburbs with vast gaps of coverage. Identify outlying areas and smaller towns without adequate telkom lines and other cell network coverage - someone has to give those people good telecommunications - for example in Pretoria East a lot of people struggle to get internet as there are no phone lines and poor coverage from all operators and people have to resort to expensive options like Amobia etc. Cover the townships.

Townships
8ta's coverage is poor in the townships (per the coverage map). People in the townships need affordable voice, sms and data, and largely are willing to pay for it. Many don't have computers, so rely on their phones for internet access, but R2/mb is too expensive. MTN and Vodas R30 - R100 bundles are the right price range, but for only up to 200mb or so - this is pathetic. Maybe offer like an Mzanzi one month prepaid package – R60 you get 10 min of peak calls, 1 hour off peak calls, 300mb data, 20sms’s. This would also help bring up your revenue per sim, as people in the townships might only spend R20 a month on airtime, but at R60 getting so much more might be worth it to them. Make it limited to one recharge per month to put off cheapskate wealthier users, and perhaps only offer it as a voucher only available from shops in lower income areas.

Distribution
Very limited. Having 8ta shops latched onto the already limited Telkom shops is not ideal (and unprofessional). Obviously you need more 8ta shops, but this is verrrryyy expensive and time consuming. So maybe in the interim partner with Pick ‘n Pay or CNA or something and have small pre fab but professional looking and attention capturing counters/stands with 1 or 2 tills, full printed advertisements and limited stock on hand that gets delivered often (2 or 3 times per week) in these stores near the entrance/tills. Most MTN and Vodacom shops don’t have stock of the things you want anyways, so maybe make it if someone requests something stock will be delivered the next day. The staff here can RICA and invoice prepaid services and phones easily, but contracts should maybe be done online through tablets at the counter – as the documentation with contracts is more sensitive and complicated. Maybe connect scanners so all the documents get sent off to head office straight away without any potential security/privacy issues i.t.o. theft of documents etc.

8ta needs to look at how the other networks are operating… and not operate like them :p (I would have made a more profound conclusion, but my lunch break is over now!).
 
I would like to see a one day data prepaid giveaway.50gigs once off at R200 or something like that.
Create a never before seen frenzy.They've already done it with the LTE giveaway so it can be done.

Applicants can register on the day on a first come first serve basis.The buzz will be overwhelming.
 
1) Which new products would you like to see?

I would like to see a 24GB/24GB prepaid package valid for a year, for users that don't need a 60/60.

2) Are there areas where 8ta can improve its support?

I haven't really had problems so difficult to recommend anything. Maybe more 8ta shops, and better phone support.

3) Can they make it easier for you to buy their products?

More 8ta stores.

4) Where do you think the company is losing ground against its competitors?

Cover is not as good as it could be. I have problems in the middle of Joburg, and smaller places also need coverage. I recently tested Grahamstown and there was nothing, don't know if that has changed since then.
 
I thought I'd use this opportunity to brown-nose the LTE trial selection people.

I love my 8ta connection.

1. The Telkom store in Alberton City was the only cell phone shop in the centre that had stock of a wired router, so I ended up with an 8ta connection. Vodacom's response was, "Huh? Wired router you say? Do you mean Wi-Fi router?" Cell C's was, "We can get you one in a week. Maybe." I didn't try MTN, because their data packages suck and I was getting tired.

2. Their 60 GB prepaid package is about as cheap as I could find, and since it's used as an ADSL backup, the one year lifespan is useful.

3. ****ing bureaucrats wanted my ID to RICA me, not my drivers licence. If I was smart I'd have bought the SIM card, gone to the furniture shop next door and RICAed it, then gone back to Telkom to load the data. But I'm not smart, so I had to go home to fetch my ID. Fix this!!! Nobody cares if the RICA database isn't accurate.

4. The router didn't have the APN set by default. Amateur mistake 8ta.

5. Signal is good, at my location, but speeds aren't. I have line-of-sight to the tower, which is less than 500m away, and an external antenna, and yet still don't get full speed because of their piss-poor backhaul. 8Mbps to one server, 1Mbps to another. 3Mbps upload to some servers was nice.

6. The on-net airtime check is useful, but not the safest, since anyone on my network can access it and use my airtime to buy data.

Anyway, pick me, pick me. I want LTE!!!

Wanted: an easier way to check your data bundle balance!

I haven't managed to get the USSD codes to work, and apparently there's no way to check online as there is with MyVodacom, leaving me having to carry out the regular schlepp of having to take the SIM out of the modem and put it in a phone. Can't be rocket science, surely?

Otherwise, great service in my area, good strong signal and latency, thanks guys and hope it stays that way.

Have you tried http://onnet.8ta.com/ ? No need for a code or anything! I love it (and fear it).
 
dual sim
allow transfer of hybrid contract airtime to prepaid number
choose me for the trial
 
Offer a prepaid 10Gb package at R200.00
The 8ta support in Telkom stores is poor. train all the consultants properly.
The sign up process for a prepaid account is ridiculous, and the time to get the sim activated is crazy. Competitors do it in a fraction of the time, with hardly any client frustration.
 
data bundles of R10 or R20. improve pricing,prepaid peak calls are higher. it is loosing on prepaid pricing.
 
same advice as for CellC

1. I would like to see CellC offer better corporate deals. Customized packages, with client's choice of notebooks, smartphone etc.

2. better coverage

3. keep pushing data prices down.
 
http://onnet.8ta.com <-- easy way to check your balances etc. (use your phone or your dongle)

Truly awesome -- thanks for that tip!

Am I right in assuming that my "Welcome Bonus Data" (which expires this week) will be used up before my normal data bundle? And out of curiosity, how was that "Welcome Bonus" calculated, given that I only started using a dedicated 8ta prepaid data package on the 14th of this month -- how did they get to an October 29 expiry?
 
8ta IMO can improve their stores, their sales people in the stores are not clued up and need further training.
 
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