How good is this computer?

[Noah]

The software is a niche developed one if that makes sense, it's for a pharmaceutical company, Its chemical similarity testing. Suppose you have a database of a few hundred existing drugs, stored as molecular geometries (electron density patterns). Someone comes up with a new potential drug and wants to know how close the geometry is to anything in the database, you have to translate and rotate the molecule in question (six degrees of freedom) to see what the maximum amount of overlap is possible with a known drug.

Also memory intensive.


I assume due to the amount of cores if the AMD FX-9590 it handles it better.

Since the results take a lot less time on that CPU than it does on the i7-5930K

Sure

 

[Thor]

Sure

I detect a sour grape cause he got served with his SSDs makes no difference BS

 

[Noah]

I detect a sour grape cause he got served with his SSDs makes no difference BS

Name of this "niche software".

 

[Thor]

Name of this "niche software".

Custom developed in house build on top of the Toxmatch system but with greater ability and SBDD capabilities.

We call it: "not going to risk my job."

Big pharma is quite competitive

 

[Noah]

Custom developed in house build on top of the Toxmatch system but with greater ability and SBDD capabilities.

We call it: "not going to risk my job."

Big pharma is quite competitive

s u r e

Your signature reads like a hackforums skid trying to promote his various schemes, your posting in Software Dev section reads like a lazy kid trying to get spoonfeeding to sell bad websites and you suddenly in "serious big pharma".

hahahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


sure.



Need help teaching someone [HTML5/CSS3]
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B I G P H A R M A

 

[Thor]

s u r e

Your signature reads like a hackforums skid trying to promote his various schemes, your posting in Software Dev section reads like a lazy kid trying to get spoonfeeding to sell bad websites and you suddenly in "serious big pharma".

hahahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


sure.



Need help teaching someone [HTML5/CSS3]
Started by Thor187, 22-07-2016 11:22 AM


B I G P H A R M A

I'm not a developer. I have nothing to do with the development. So not sure where you delusional conclusions stem from...

You type like someone who fails at comprehension.

Besides according to you I must use my HDD over SSDs

 

[Noah]

I'm not a developer. I have nothing to do with the development. So not sure where you delusional conclusions stem from...

You type like someone who fails at comprehension.

Besides according to you I must use my HDD over SSDs

I never said you were a developer??, you definitely aren't one.

Projection.

And yeah?

 

[Thor]

I never said you were a developer??, you definitely aren't one.

Projection.

And yeah?

Then your previous post is prove your just fishing for attention now as its completely irrelevant.

So now we know your motive.

I shall stop replying. Good day sir.

 

[Noah]

Then your previous post is prove your just fishing for attention now as its completely irrelevant.

So now we know your motive.

I shall stop replying. Good day sir.

Please do, thanks m'lady.

 

[Progenix Oj101]

No it's a fine example of how having a sub par CPU can **** your entire system up no matter what you have.

Never ever go cheap on the CPU.

I'm assuming "i5-3700K" is supposed to be "i7-3770K," and at 4.5 GHz it is a faster CPU than your i7-4790K at 4.0 GHz - sorry, but one generation is not a large enough IPC increase to make up for a 12.5 % frequency difference.

For what it's worth, a first gen Core i3 with SATA300 ports and an SSD should load faster than an i7-6700K with a mechanical hard drive every single time.

The software is a niche developed one if that makes sense, it's for a pharmaceutical company, Its chemical similarity testing. Suppose you have a database of a few hundred existing drugs, stored as molecular geometries (electron density patterns). Someone comes up with a new potential drug and wants to know how close the geometry is to anything in the database, you have to translate and rotate the molecule in question (six degrees of freedom) to see what the maximum amount of overlap is possible with a known drug.

Also memory intensive.


I assume due to the amount of cores if the AMD FX-9590 it handles it better.

Since the results take a lot less time on that CPU than it does on the i7-5930K

Custom developed in house build on top of the Toxmatch system but with greater ability and SBDD capabilities.

We call it: "not going to risk my job."

Big pharma is quite competitive

It sounds more like the software was coded to be faster on AMD. Even when AMD was whipping the crap out of Intel at gaming (Athlon Classic, Athlon Thunderbird, Athlon XP and Athlon 64), Intel was always faster at media and scientific calculations/modelling. These days Intel is even further ahead. Look at boincstats to see several hundred thousand computers' results at scientific modelling and calculations - AMD doesn't feature in any top list unless you're talking a 48+ core quad socket setup.

 

[Progenix Oj101]

Hey dude,

CPU i'd swap out for a Intel with high single thread performance, cores do not equal performance in games, games tend to overload a single thread and AMD don't have good single thread performance, the only place AMD would have an advantage would be multicore benchmarks, rendering, encoding etc.

Check here for single thread performance.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Decent Gfx card, personally I'm leaning towards 480x but they're similar in performance.

Ram is decent, are those sticks similar? I'd try not to mix sticks.

Storage, personally I barely use my SSD and when I do I don't really notice a difference, The reason being I don't store all my games on the same drive as my OS and programs. A dedicated 7200rpm drive is fine for gaming. But that's personal preference based on my experience.

This post really needs to be taken apart.

Firstly, this isn't 2008 any more. Games are starting to use more and more cores. I cannot think of a single AAA title from the last five years which only loads a single core.

The RX 480 is 10-20 % slower in most benchmarks (AotS is a poor tech demo, not an accurate benchmark by any measure; Hitman was developed with help from AMD, etc), uses 50 % more power (that means more heat being dumped in your case and potentially more noise - this is cooler dependant of course), and costs as little as R 400 less than the GTX 1060 - while there was reason a month ago, there's not much reason to go for the RX 480 anymore.

Mixed sticks aren't a biggie as long as they're capable of the same speed and timings at a given voltage.

Your comment on the SSD is simply bonkers. I've had BF4 on an SSD and mechanical hard drive. Loads times are 23 seconds and ~1m45s respectively. 1m45s can be more than a tenth of a round. Most games benefit hugely from being on an SSD - if there was no benefit, people wouldn't buy them. Kinda a "duuuuuuuuuh" moment, eh?

 

[Noah]

This post really needs to be taken apart.

Firstly, this isn't 2008 any more. Games are starting to use more and more cores. I cannot think of a single AAA title from the last five years which only loads a single core.

Sure more are but some aren't and I wouldn't want to be the one stuck regretting it. Does ArmA 3 count as AAA?

The RX 480 is 10-20 % slower in most benchmarks (AotS is a poor tech demo, not an accurate benchmark by any measure; Hitman was developed with help from AMD, etc), uses 50 % more power (that means more heat being dumped in your case and potentially more noise - this is cooler dependant of course), and costs as little as R 400 less than the GTX 1060 - while there was reason a month ago, there's not much reason to go for the RX 480 anymore.

That's why I said personally, I haven't had time to look into the 1060 and my focus shifted from GPUs to quadcopters :/ in the past month.
Interesting that it uses 50% less power.

Mixed sticks aren't a biggie as long as they're capable of the same speed and timings at a given voltage.

Eh considering he's asking a forum about what parts to pick I thought I'd suggest he get the same sticks, that way there's less chance he'd **** up his selection.

Your comment on the SSD is simply bonkers. I've had BF4 on an SSD and mechanical hard drive. Loads times are 23 seconds and ~1m45s respectively. 1m45s can be more than a tenth of a round. Most games benefit hugely from being on an SSD - if there was no benefit, people wouldn't buy them. Kinda a "duuuuuuuuuh" moment, eh?

It's personal experience, I don't play BF regularly so I haven't had that experience, I also mentioned in a later post how bloat games where the texture files are enormous for no reason other than "muh 4k res" will obviously benefit from an SSD but seen as I don't play trash games I don't run into those often. On the games I play a 7200 mechanical is honestly fine, the 2s difference is liveable considering I got 12x the space for that 2s.

oh did I mention? BF4 is a trash game.

 

[Noah]

I'm assuming "i5-3700K" is supposed to be "i7-3770K," and at 4.5 GHz it is a faster CPU than your i7-4790K at 4.0 GHz - sorry, but one generation is not a large enough IPC increase to make up for a 12.5 % frequency difference.

Spoke to the person (lives in ireland), i5-3570k @ 4.3
And mines a i7-4790 @ 4.1 (abusing boost and some other ****)

For what it's worth, a first gen Core i3 with SATA300 ports and an SSD should load faster than an i7-6700K with a mechanical hard drive every single time.

In theory and according to benchmarks.

 

[CJKaufman]

Sure more are but some aren't and I wouldn't want to be the one stuck regretting it. Does ArmA 3 count as AAA?



That's why I said personally, I haven't had time to look into the 1060 and my focus shifted from GPUs to quadcopters :/ in the past month.
Interesting that it uses 50% less power.



Eh considering he's asking a forum about what parts to pick I thought I'd suggest he get the same sticks, that way there's less chance he'd **** up his selection.



It's personal experience, I don't play BF regularly so I haven't had that experience, I also mentioned in a later post how bloat games where the texture files are enormous for no reason other than "muh 4k res" will obviously benefit from an SSD but seen as I don't play trash games I don't run into those often. On the games I play a 7200 mechanical is honestly fine, the 2s difference is liveable considering I got 12x the space for that 2s.

oh did I mention? BF4 is a trash game.

I have two sticks, 1 of them is from the new rig, one from the old
This thread was more about people giving input on the parts I had purchased as I wanted to know what they think
I'm hoping it would run Doom with at least high graphics
Also to the person about cooling the CPU (if I read it correctly (I'm really tired) I am using a closed loop liquid cooler as I've had too many CPUs die on me because of the heat build up in my room
And so far what I've learned about the 1060 is that it's basically a GTX 980 with a bit more power and stability, or so I've heard
Nuff of this SSD vs HDD bs everyone has their own opinions and everyone is too stubborn to change them easily (Including me) so let them believe what they believe and you do the same, no need to get rough

 

[Noah]

I have two sticks, 1 of them is from the new rig, one from the old
This thread was more about people giving input on the parts I had purchased as I wanted to know what they think
I'm hoping it would run Doom with at least high graphics
Also to the person about cooling the CPU (if I read it correctly (I'm really tired) I am using a closed loop liquid cooler as I've had too many CPUs die on me because of the heat build up in my room
And so far what I've learned about the 1060 is that it's basically a GTX 980 with a bit more power and stability, or so I've heard
Nuff of this SSD vs HDD bs �� everyone has their own opinions and everyone is too stubborn to change them easily (Including me) so let them believe what they believe and you do the same, no need to get rough

Should run doom fine, watercooling still works off airflow through the radiator.
I have a custom loop and still direct a fan towards it in summer.

I know I'm stubborn. I was extremely stubborn in support of AMD CPUs for about 8 years and that changed last year when I got my i7. I'm really stubborn about HDDs in that I value space over the minor to nonexistent gains I've had with SSDs in my usual games.

Did you get that makro deal for the SSD?

 

[CJKaufman]

Should run doom fine, watercooling still works off airflow through the radiator.
I have a custom loop and still direct a fan towards it in summer.

I know I'm stubborn. I was extremely stubborn in support of AMD CPUs for about 8 years and that changed last year when I got my i7. I'm really stubborn about HDDs in that I value space over the minor to nonexistent gains I've had with SSDs in my usual games.

Did you get that makro deal for the SSD?

Surprisingly I got it from Evetech

 

[The Voice]

My 2p:

1. Probably better to ask all these questions BEFORE you buy next time. That way, if you have any doubts, it won't cost you anything.
2. Best utilisation of an SSD is as a boot device + storage for your favourite games. So something like a 250GB drive. Everything else goes on mechanical storage. Anyone who says they can't see a real world difference between the performance of the two is simply in denial. Or blind. Or both.
3. CPU: I can't recommend anything lower than an i5 until AMD releases Zen. Intel has a proven track record. AMD was a boss for performance/value back in the day, but Intel has pulled years ahead. AMD runs hot, clunky and is power hungry.
4. GPU: not a bad card. Should run the games you want at (mostly) the settings you want, if other parts you have don't bottleneck it. It may not run as great as it could vs an RX 480 in Vulkan games, but you're not really going to notice the difference.
5. RAM: it's usually best to have matching sticks, but as long as they're the same size and the same speed, you'll be fine. If there's a variation, they won't run in DDR. And will always run at the slowest speed of the two sticks.
6. PC rule of thumb: your PC is only as fast as its slowest component.

 

[Dan C]

Hey dude,

CPU i'd swap out for a Intel with high single thread performance....

Take a hike, my 8 core AMD is running like a beast for years now. Intel sucks

 

[Progenix Oj101]

Spoke to the person (lives in ireland), i5-3570k @ 4.3
And mines a i7-4790 @ 4.1 (abusing boost and some other ****)



In theory and according to benchmarks.

Even then your TINY bit of extra CPU power doesn't make up for the storage speed he has which can be more than an order of magnitude faster than yours.

Not just in theory and according to benchmarks, in reality too. Hell, even an old Core 2 Quad with SSD will load things faster than an i7-6950X with mechanical drive.

Earlier this week I was going for the SuperPi 1M air cooled record on my system and I had 22 of the 24 threads disabled. When I was done, I forgot to enable the other threads again. I didn't notice ANY difference in load times (although my performance after loading sucks xD).

My 2p:

1. Probably better to ask all these questions BEFORE you buy next time. That way, if you have any doubts, it won't cost you anything.
2. Best utilisation of an SSD is as a boot device + storage for your favourite games. So something like a 250GB drive. Everything else goes on mechanical storage. Anyone who says they can't see a real world difference between the performance of the two is simply in denial. Or blind. Or both.
3. CPU: I can't recommend anything lower than an i5 until AMD releases Zen. Intel has a proven track record. AMD was a boss for performance/value back in the day, but Intel has pulled years ahead. AMD runs hot, clunky and is power hungry.
4. GPU: not a bad card. Should run the games you want at (mostly) the settings you want, if other parts you have don't bottleneck it. It may not run as great as it could vs an RX 480 in Vulkan games, but you're not really going to notice the difference.
5. RAM: it's usually best to have matching sticks, but as long as they're the same size and the same speed, you'll be fine. If there's a variation, they won't run in DDR. And will always run at the slowest speed of the two sticks.
6. PC rule of thumb: your PC is only as fast as its slowest component.

1. He's looking for validation of his purchase. It's perfectly normal.
2. I agree here, everything except media on an SSD for best results.
3. His CPU is fine mate. It might not be the faster, but they're crazy cheap. His 6-core is the same price as the cheapest Core i3 and he can still overclock it should he so wish.
4. Vulkan support is near non existent. I don't see it winning over DirectX 12.
5. It won't run DDR?? OK, now I think you're smoking socks.

 

[CJKaufman]

Even then your TINY bit of extra CPU power doesn't make up for the storage speed he has which can be more than an order of magnitude faster than yours.

Not just in theory and according to benchmarks, in reality too. Hell, even an old Core 2 Quad with SSD will load things faster than an i7-6950X with mechanical drive.

Earlier this week I was going for the SuperPi 1M air cooled record on my system and I had 22 of the 24 threads disabled. When I was done, I forgot to enable the other threads again. I didn't notice ANY difference in load times (although my performance after loading sucks xD).



1. He's looking for validation of his purchase. It's perfectly normal.
2. I agree here, everything except media on an SSD for best results.
3. His CPU is fine mate. It might not be the faster, but they're crazy cheap. His 6-core is the same price as the cheapest Core i3 and he can still overclock it should he so wish.
4. Vulkan support is near non existent. I don't see it winning over DirectX 12.
5. It won't run DDR?? OK, now I think you're smoking socks.

The sticks are basically the same, just different names and different coloured heat sinks
Plus by the end of this year I'll have upgraded to a new CPU, either a newer AMD or one of the Skylake I7's depending on how nicely work pays me