How Many? The eternal debate

The bikes I speak of don't use automatics at all.

They simply cut out the engine and allow to you shift quickly as you could do with a normal clutchless change but much faster.

This is only possible due to modern fly by wire and ECU controlled systems.

And there is a LOT that is new. It's completely different systems.

Dual clutch systems aren't old technology being perfected. It never existed nor was possible before.

I also don't understand your statement about having the next gear ready. The next gear is always ready on a motorcycle.
 
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SauRoNZA said:
The bikes I speak of don't use automatics at all.

They simply cut out the engine and allows you shift quickly as you could do with a normal clutchless change but much faster.

And there is a LOT that is new. It's completely different systems.



Dual clutch systems aren't old technology being perfected. It never existed nor was possible before.

I also don't understand your statement about having the next gear ready. The next gear is always ready on a motorcycle.
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The next gear was selected and the "clutch" lever pulled. The next gear operated and you then selected the next gear that you wanted. (Pre-select, there were only two, if you are in "High" the next gear that you want will be "Low"). On a short circuit despite it's small engine it was difficult to beat, hence needing a 650cc to do it.

However, it was as most British inventions, ahead of it's time.
 
Well with only two gears it's an infinitely less complex thing.

But very interesting regardless.
 
After being a die hard manual fan my current car is an auto, doubt I will ever do manual again.
Maybe a dual clutch of sorts but not manual.
 
two pedal cars are fine until you have to change the clutch

I'll stick to 3 pedals, by the way on the older Opels (kadette E) you can change the clutch without removing the gearbox.
 
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My experience with auto is not good. It's never in the gear I want it, or it takes 2-3s to get there. Even when I drove a Wildtrak I was not impressed. It was a diesel(which I hate) and a not-fun-at-all auto transmission. It gets the job done I guess, but its not fun to drive.

I believe there is better autos out there. But till I can upgrade to an RS6 or something like that, I love my manual.
 
Why do you care about which gear it's in as long as it's going forward? As for it not switching for 3s, stop employing the foot flat method.
 
As for your question, I can only ask - Whut?!?

I'm used to a car that goes exactly where I want when I want. If the car does not, the foot flat method it is.
 
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