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A sugar tax should be seen as part of the serious intervention needed to ensure the taxpayer of today is around to pay their taxes and boost the SA economy of tomorrow, Ettiene Retief of the SA Institute of Professional Accountants (Saipa), told Fin24 on Tuesday.

The decision to put a tax on sugar sweetened beverages (SSBs) was mentioned by Treasury as part of the 2016 budget. The tax is only due to begin in 2017.

"South Africa's future workforce is under threat of serious illnesses due to the overconsumption of sugar," said Retief, who chairs the institute's national tax and SA Revenue Service (Sars) stakeholders committee. In his view, claims that a sugar tax would lead to job losses should, therefore, be compared to the flipside of the coin, namely growing health risks and the resulting costs to the economy.

The proposed tax on SSBs has the potential to reduce the industry’s contribution to SA’s gross domestic product (GDP) by R14bn and trigger 62 000 to 72 000 job losses, the Beverages Association of South Africa (BevSA) claimed on Tuesday.

Retief, however, is of the opinion that this extent of job losses is probably grossly exaggerated and it is unclear how it was calculated.

"I am not saying consumers will stop drinking these drinks because of the tax, but awareness of the tax could change how they consume by opting for alternatives," said Retief.

"Consumers won't stop drinking. When a sugar tax was introduced in Mexico, for example, there was an increase in purchases of alternative drinks. So, one could argue that to meet that increased demand would recapture jobs lost."

He finds it ironic that "the same industry that denounced a sugar tax, claiming it will not work, is now saying it will work so well that there could be a loss of 60 000 jobs".

"We cannot sit by and do nothing. For years there has been talk about a possible sugar tax, so why is the industry only reacting now when it could become a reality?" he asked.

Retief is in favour of a sugar tax if it goes hand-in-hand with educating consumers and helping them to change their behaviour.

The Department of Health (DoH) said on Tuesday the sugar tax is aimed at reducing a growing "non-communicable disease epidemic and oral health problems".

"There is good reason to believe from both local experience with tobacco and alcohol and international experiences with sugar (as well as tobacco and alcohol) that taxes are an excellent mediator of consumer behaviour," it said in a statement.

It said that without a tax soft drinks are projected to grow by 2.4% per year, predominantly among poorer people. This could lead to a 16% increase in obesity by 2017 of which 20% would be due to SSBs.

"SSBs are seen as a good target for taxation, because, among other things, they account for around one-third of all sugar consumed by the average South African and such a tax has already been implemented with varying amounts of success in other lower and middle-income countries," the department said.

Fin24 - http://www.fin24.com/Economy/how-sugar-tax-will-create-future-taxpayers-20160824
 
I have a problem when the tax on my coke is being used to fund someone's Range Rover V8's....
 
They're taxing sigarettes, alcohol, everything and now sugar. Everyone is losing the right to choose.
Real reason : They're running out of ideas to keep the wallets to the brim.....
 
Don't worry guys the next tax is about to be announced:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_tax

I am all for a "bad" fat tax. However a fat tax will inflate food prices even more. Brought proudly by the eishandsee...

Fat tax, if you read through there you'll see, is what sugar tax essentially is. It's not a tax on fat, it's a tax on food that makes you fat.
 
I saw this in that Fat Tax wiki:

To make a fat tax less burdensome for the poor, proponents recommend earmarking the revenues to subsidize healthy foods

Was wondering, where is this tax on sugar going then? Another Nkandla?
Why don't they then push back the money to the consumer and subsidize healthy food? If they don't, or can't, then it's just proof that they don't really care about our health.
 
Fat tax, if you read through there you'll see, is what sugar tax essentially is. It's not a tax on fat, it's a tax on food that makes you fat.

Fat tax covers a much larger spectrum of foods where sugar only covers a smaller portion of the average diet.
 
So who defines what a "healthy food" is?

I am personally sick of all the Pseudo Science that is around these days!
 
Un-flippen-believable that a so-called adult can make this sort of 'argument'. :mad:

Fully agree!

Who do they think is going to bear the brunt of all of this? Certainly not those that want to and who will continue to consume large amounts of sugar.

Anyone know IF the changes to the laws on smoking have had any effect on the total numbers of persons that smoke?
 
It's cold comfort that these loons weren't social engineering via the fiscus when the 'medical consensus' held that butter and eggs were evil.

Every fifteen or twenty years the culture is swept by frankenfoods scares that turn out later to be completely wrong.

The demonisation of sugar is the latest fad.

Oh, of course today's nutritionists and medical experts will explain in microbiological detail why sugar is evil - exactly like they did with red meat, butter, eggs, salt, and a dozen other foods they labelled as destroyers of human health and drivers of disability and disease. Only to discover later that they were wrong and the evil effects hopelessly overstated. They were even wrong about that erstwhile poison tartrazine.

Now that these crazies have the ears of government and use taxes to manipulate the populace, our only hope is rapid collapse of the state and revolution.

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Don't bother posting quotes and links proving sugar is evil and sugar taxes are good. I know how to use the internet.
 
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It's cold comfort that these loons weren't social engineering via the fiscus when the 'medical consensus' held that butter and eggs were evil.

Every fifteen or twenty years the culture is swept by frankenfoods scares that turn out later to be completely wrong.

The demonisation of sugar is the latest fad.

Oh, of course today's nutritionists and medical experts will explain in microbiological detail why sugar is evil - exactly like they did with red meat, butter, eggs, salt, and a dozen other foods they labelled as destroyers of human health and drivers of disability and disease. Only to discover later that they were wrong and the evil effects hopelessly overstated. They were even wrong about that erstwhile poison tartrazine.

Now that these crazies have the ears of government and use taxes to manipulate the populace, our only hope is rapid collapse of the state and revolution.

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Don't bother posting quotes and links proving sugar is evil and sugar taxes are good. I know how to use the internet.
Agree with the scare mongering, it's the freaking pseudo science hippies like Food Babe and David Avocado Wolff that have gotten the world in a tizzy about bad foods thanks to their idiotic understanding of science.
Especially when it comes to sugar, which is supposed to be as addictive as hard drugs, cause diabetes and is poisonous. Which it isn't any of those things but hey.
 
If Ettiene Retief wants to make the bean counter argument, then he should realise it actually works against him. By getting people to die early the state can save money. If this was really about an economic benefit (I mean besides another way to sneak in a new tax) they'd be encouraging people to smoke a lot of tobacco, eat as much sugar as possible, and so on. Get them dead before they get old and expensive. In South Africa it would likely have the added benefit of disproportionately impacting the poor, thus helping to reduce the percentage of poor and unemployed.

Anyone know IF the changes to the laws on smoking have had any effect on the total numbers of persons that smoke?
Advocates of intervention will claim they do, but commonly one finds that in fact there was already a downward trend. In the case of asthma rates in the UK they cut out a small piece of the historical graph of asthma rates, which go up and down anyway, and pretended it was due to new smoking regulations. It isn't clear whether those involved are simply ignorant or blatant liars.
 
Why don't they then push back the money to the consumer and subsidize healthy food? If they don't, or can't, then it's just proof that they don't really care about our health.
Or they'd zero rate whatever they've decided is healthy. That would genuinely make those products cheaper. They won't do it for a couple of reasons. The first is that the type of busybody that promotes these taxes gets a thrill from punishing those who don't live the lifestyle they dictate (hence for example their ire at those who seek to get their nicotine by safer means rather than giving it up). The second is that the state wants to get their taxes, and they know very well that a good percentage of people will continue to buy the 'unhealthy' product, so its a great way to sneak in a tax.

Fat tax, if you read through there you'll see, is what sugar tax essentially is. It's not a tax on fat, it's a tax on food that makes you fat.
Which is pretty much all food.
 
One only has to look at the GDP to deficit ratio to see why government is creating new tax schemes. That and emigration patterns.
 
So who defines what a "healthy food" is?

I am personally sick of all the Pseudo Science that is around these days!

A healthy food is whatever the corporate sponsors of the time say it is.

Before it was the grain industry.
Now with Banting doing the hype rounds, it is the meat industry.

If they want people to be healthy just do the following:
Increase income taxes on everyone, but allow for those who are in a healthy range of BMI to get a break from the increase.
This makes it worth everyone's while to lose weight.
 
We can never catch a break. Lowering your sugar consumption should be a personal choice. Education on sugar would be more beneficial than tax.
 
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