Hubble Batteries

ScottulusMaximus said:
The seller:

www.elleyhillpower.co.za

Greenrich UP3686 (3.68Kwh) Lithium-Iron Battery

Handle electricity surges because of 1.5C technology. (5,2 KWH) DOD 95%. 1.5C Discharge. 5 years products warranty, 10 years performancewarranty. Compatible with all major inverter brands. Top Features: -Parallel Connection A fantastic feature for those wanting to expand their system at a later...
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Greenrich UP5000 (7500W | 4960Wh) Lithium-Iron Battery

Handle electricity surges because of 1.5C technology. (7.5 KW) DOD 95%. 1.5C Discharge. 5 years products warranty, 10 years performancewarranty. Compatible with all major inverter brands. Top Features: -Parallel Connection A fantastic feature for those wanting to expand their system at a later...
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2C everywhere

3686
Max Discharge: "2C" for how long, no one knows
Continuous 116A (=1.6C)
Charging: 36A (=0.5C)


5000
Pulse discharge: 350A 100ms
Max continuous: 150A (1.5C)
Recommended continuous: 43A (0.5C)


The deception is that a C rating is for continuous, not peak, this is standard. They could MAYBE claim 1.5C but I highly doubt it'll sustain that current permanently but that's opinion.
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Counted 2c 7 times
 
How come no one talks about the Tesla batteries? Is it only compatible with PowerWall?
 
Thankfully I've had no issues with AM2 batteries, but now if i want to expand my bank I doubt ill get more of them. So what are my options obviously cannot pair them with say sunsynk ones?
 
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As per the specs, its capacity is 72AH. Its discharge rating is 1.5C, meaning that it can discharge continuously at 108A. If you look closer at the specs, you will see a max discharge rating of 115A, so it's good for even higher and better than 1.5C.
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I don't see 2C anywhere. All I see is you conflating specs of the two Greenrich batteries, and then claiming "deception". Could it be because they are a competitor to you?
 
RonSwanson said:
As per the specs, its capacity is 72AH. Its discharge rating is 1.5C, meaning that it can discharge continuously at 108A. If you look closer at the specs, you will see a max discharge rating of 115A, so it's good for even higher and better than 1.5C.
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I don't see 2C anywhere. All I see is you conflating specs of the two Greenrich batteries, and then claiming "deception". Could it be because they are a competitor to you?
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And no I'm not bashing a competitors product, I have no idea how this performs, could be great, their marketing however is shady as hell.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
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And no I'm not bashing a competitors product, I have no idea how this performs, could be great, their marketing however is shady as hell.
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I get my info from Powerforumstore who are in process of testing the battery (and running a giveaway):

powerforum-store.co.za

Greenrich U-P3686 Lithium Battery 3.686kWh 51.2V

Rated Voltage 51.2VNominal capacity 72AhAbout 42kg3.686kWh All information contained in this document is subject to change without notice.Electrical parameter Warranty 10 years warranty, > 6000 cycles life 1)For better battery life cycles,we suggest charge in 36A(0.5C @25℃)2)For better battery...
powerforum-store.co.za
and
powerforum.co.za

GREENRICH 3.686 kWh LITHIUM BATTERY REVIEW AND GIVEAWAY

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ScottulusMaximus said:
I have no idea how this performs
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So best to wait and see what the outcome of the PFS testing provides then? In the meanwhile, it is worthwhile to note that a number of PF members are running these batteries, some since last year, and that the are very happy with them.
 
RonSwanson said:
I get my info from Powerforumstore who are in process of testing the battery (and running a giveaway):

powerforum-store.co.za

Greenrich U-P3686 Lithium Battery 3.686kWh 51.2V

Rated Voltage 51.2VNominal capacity 72AhAbout 42kg3.686kWh All information contained in this document is subject to change without notice.Electrical parameter Warranty 10 years warranty, > 6000 cycles life 1)For better battery life cycles,we suggest charge in 36A(0.5C @25℃)2)For better battery...
powerforum-store.co.za
and
powerforum.co.za

GREENRICH 3.686 kWh LITHIUM BATTERY REVIEW AND GIVEAWAY

powerforum.co.za powerforum.co.za


So best to wait and see what the outcome of the PFS testing provides then? In the meanwhile, it is worthwhile to note that a number of PF members are running these batteries, some since last year, and that the are very happy with them.
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These are the same price as the equivalent size Pylons. Why would anyone pick these over the Pylons for the same price?
 
Speedster said:
These are the same price as the equivalent size Pylons. Why would anyone pick these over the Pylons for the same price?
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US3000C? You know quite well that they only allow discharge at 37A (0.5C).
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
Because 2C!!!!!!! Pylontech are a pathetic 0.5C, these are obviously better.

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For someone with a limited budget and an entry-level system, absolutely. As an example, it will allow them to use the full capabilities of a 5K inverter with only one battery. I need 3x US3000Cs to do that. Anything that lowers the barrier to entry is good, considering how reliable Eskom is.
 
semaphore said:
Thankfully I've had no issues with AM2 batteries, but now if i want to expand my bank I doubt ill get more of them. So what are my options obviously cannot pair them with say sunsynk ones?
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I'd avoid that, different cell architecture and chemistry.
 
RonSwanson said:
For someone with a limited budget and an entry-level system, absolutely. As an example, it will allow them to use the full capabilities of a 5K inverter with only one battery. I need 3x US3000Cs to do that. Anything that lowers the barrier to entry is good, considering how reliable Eskom is.
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I can only imagine the higher discharge rate comes at a pretty significant cost in terms of cycle life. Also, my Pylon's might only do 0.5C but that's never been a problem as either the solar is sufficient to cover my load or in the rare occasions where it isn't, the inverter just pulls the balance from the grid.

EDIT: As I thought. https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/art...e,and elevated temperature during discharging.

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Speedster said:
I can only imagine the higher discharge rate comes at a pretty significant cost in terms of cycle life. Also, my Pylon's might only do 0.5C but that's never been a problem as either the solar is sufficient to cover my load or in the rare occasions where it isn't, the inverter just pulls the balance from the grid.

EDIT: As I thought. https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2018/ra/c8ra04074e#:~:text=However, when the discharge rate,and elevated temperature during discharging.

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Yes it does, they also include a caveat to that effect in the fine print. But they stand by their guarantee (unlike Pylontech that have a number of cleverly thought out loopholes, and a BMS that in some cases that have failed to protect the battery / itself).
IMHO it is quite achievable due to the 0.5C charge rate limitation.
 
RonSwanson said:
Yes it does, they also include a caveat to that effect in the fine print. But they stand by their guarantee (unlike Pylontech that have a number of cleverly thought out loopholes, and a BMS that in some cases that have failed to protect the battery / itself).
IMHO it is quite achievable due to the 0.5C charge rate limitation.
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I'd be interested to see the Greenrich warranty. Do you perhaps have a link to it?
 
RonSwanson said:

Hubble Batteries

You clearly have a different understanding of C rating to me :laugh: What is your understanding?
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Lol. That's hardly a warranty document. So it's guaranteed to turn on for 6000 cycles? Or is there some minimum remaining capacity?

You rip the Pylon warranty, but at least theirs is clearly laid out.
 
Speedster said:
Lol. That's hardly a warranty document. So it's guaranteed to turn on for 6000 cycles? Or is there some minimum remaining capacity?

You rip the Pylon warranty, but at least theirs is clearly laid out.
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My humblest apologies at having failed your request, master.

On second thoughts, perhaps I should put you back on ignore. Have you perhaps tried Googling?
 
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