I hate Blackberry thread

[I O U]

I guess I wont need a Blackberry, after I saw Cell C has 500MB of data for R45.

Incorrect. These are the rates ..

50MB R7.50
100MB R15.00
300MB R45.00
500MB R75.00
1GB R155.00
2GB R310.00

Not much more for 500MB, though.

 

[Nerfherder]

The cost of a high end Blackberry is unjustifiable compared to superior hardware and build quality of Android phones of the same pricing.

Andriod don't make phones.

The only good androids are no where near the price of the best Blackberries.

Case in point: Galaxy S2 vs 9900 (at the time I got mine)

S2 contract : R349 pm, business talk, no extras, no minutes, no data, no sms's
9900 contract : R 369, talk 100, unlimited browsing, BBM, BIS included.

Some will still take the S2 but if you are actually going to use it as a PHONE and use it as much as I do then your bill will be astronomical.

My BIL has the S2 and just turns off his internet, its costs him too much even with a bundle. People have to sms him first then they have a watsapp conversation.

My battery life is much better than the S2,at the moment it lasts 2 days, I don't have to worry about the big screen. I have all the apps I need for a business phone, I have all my emails from all my accounts instantly.

and when vodacom deems it appropriate I have unlimited access to all the social media I want.

 

[Nerfherder]

Because a Blackberry is useless without BIS (by design, thanks to RIM), and they have done too little to ensure the networks that THEY partner with deliver a sterling BIS experience. At the end of the day, if BIS is not working, but standard data bundles work fine, I will blame Blackberry more than the network. The other phones don't need BIS in order to make use of smartphone features.

Its not useless without BIS. During the BB blackout most people were able to load bundles and had 90% of the functionality. That other 10% is not available on normal phones anyway.

Those who were not (like me) were restricted because of their ISP's policy on data bundles.

 

[Fox1]

When people say that BIS covers their data costs adequately, I'm intrigued to know how many mb's a month does the owner of a high end BB user do on BIS.

Also saying that you can't type on a touchscreen is kinda dated on this day and age. Even the first phone running BB 10 OS will be a touchscreen phone.

 

[MandM]

Also saying that you can't type on a touchscreen is kinda dated on this day and age. Even the first phone running BB 10 OS will be a touchscreen phone.

The physical keyboard BB10 will be released soon after.

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

Also saying that you can't type on a touchscreen is kinda dated on this day and age. Even the first phone running BB 10 OS will be a touchscreen phone.

Actually no. I went from a Blackberry to an S2 and found the touch screen very frustrating, even with SWYPE. I take far longer to type messages than on a Blackberry and around 20-30% of the time, the word "predicted" is incorrect. I much prefer the physical keyboard to the touchscreen.

Also the battery life completely sucks on the S2...and takes far longer to charge than my Blackberry.

 

[Nerfherder]

When people say that BIS covers their data costs adequately, I'm intrigued to know how many mb's a month does the owner of a high end BB user do on BIS.

Also saying that you can't type on a touchscreen is kinda dated on this day and age. Even the first phone running BB 10 OS will be a touchscreen phone.

I changed a setting on my BB last month, having a big fight with Vodacom about it because apparently if you choose the setting "use Blackberry apn" it means that will be pushed through the vlive apn and it will charge you OOB rates.

I was charged over R475 for the month just for data, that's only my third party apps and browsing.

 

[Claymore]

EDIT 2: Oooh, I forgot my favourite one - on iPhone when someone sends you an email you get it instantly via exchange push (or Gmail). It literally happens the moment the person press the send button. My work colleague gets the same email 15 minutes later when BB syncs his mailbox. Sometimes I have already resolved an issue then he starts with it!

Then there's something wrong somewhere. My BB gets work emails or Gmail faster than Outlook does.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Honestly, I think that most of the problems being experienced here are more issues to do with changing from / to Blackberry. Don't expect Android and Blackberry to operate in the same way.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Actually no. I went from a Blackberry to an S2 and found the touch screen very frustrating, even with SWYPE. I take far longer to type messages than on a Blackberry and around 20-30% of the time, the word "predicted" is incorrect. I much prefer the physical keyboard to the touchscreen.

Also the battery life completely sucks on the S2...and takes far longer to charge than my Blackberry.

You are used to using a QWERTY keyboard. Once you get the hand of either touch typing or swyping, you won't miss the Blackberry. As you mentioned, you much prefer the physical keyboard- you need to accept that the S2 does not have one.

On the battery life, each phone is different so I can't comment. But I never had better battery life on my Blackberry than I do on my S2, even when I have overclocked it.

 

[Colin62]

You are used to using a QWERTY keyboard. Once you get the hand of either touch typing or swyping, you won't miss the Blackberry. As you mentioned, you much prefer the physical keyboard- you need to accept that the S2 does not have one.

No, that's simply not true. I have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note and a Tab for close to a year now, and still do not like typing on the touch screen. It does not work as well for me, and it never will. I will never be able to touch type without looking at the keyboard on a touch screen, and I can on a QWERTY keyboard. I also do not like the fact that the keyboard takes up most of the screen space, meaning that I can't see what I've already typed, nor what I'm replying to. I do accept the fact that the Note (and other Android phones) will never have a keyboard, which is why I choose to use my BB when I am doing something that requires anything more than trivial typing.

If you are happy using a touch screen, then that's great. I am not. What I cant understand is why you feel the need to make out that the fact that we prefer typing on a physical keyboard is a problem. It's not. There are phones with physical keyboards, and we will still choose to buy them. You don't need to justify your purchase to me, if you like your phone, that wonderful, but I like my BB, and your love of your S2 is not going to change that.

 

[Colin62]

Also saying that you can't type on a touchscreen is kinda dated on this day and age. Even the first phone running BB 10 OS will be a touchscreen phone.

It may be dated to you and all the gadget geeks, but it's still the preference for many people. I can type on a touch screen - it's just slower and less inaccurate. The reason why most manufacturers are dropping keyboards is because they're expensive to make, not because they are difficult to use. Don't confuse economy with progress.

 

[Maverick Jester]

No, that's simply not true. I have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note and a Tab for close to a year now, and still do not like typing on the touch screen. It does not work as well for me, and it never will. I will never be able to touch type without looking at the keyboard on a touch screen, and I can on a QWERTY keyboard. I also do not like the fact that the keyboard takes up most of the screen space, meaning that I can't see what I've already typed, nor what I'm replying to. I do accept the fact that the Note (and other Android phones) will never have a keyboard, which is why I choose to use my BB when I am doing something that requires anything more than trivial typing.

Again, you are trying to do things on the S2 that you are used to doing on the Blackberry. This is why your problems are a matter of adjustment. It is not fair to expect a phone without a physical keyboard to be able to accomodate the way you type on a physical keyboard.

If you are happy using a touch screen, then that's great. I am not. What I cant understand is why you feel the need to make out that the fact that we prefer typing on a physical keyboard is a problem. It's not. There are phones with physical keyboards, and we will still choose to buy them. You don't need to justify your purchase to me, if you like your phone, that wonderful, but I like my BB, and your love of your S2 is not going to change that.

You missed my point, which explains this unrelated diatribe. The point is that you are comparing apples and oranges, and are complaining because your orange is not an apple.

 

[Colin62]

Again, you are trying to do things on the S2 that you are used to doing on the Blackberry. This is why your problems are a matter of adjustment. It is not fair to expect a phone without a physical keyboard to be able to accomodate the way you type on a physical keyboard.

Why should I change the way I send messages just because the manufacturer decided to leave off a keyboard? I want a device that I can send a message without having to concentrate on carefully hitting each virtual key every time, and I have one that does that. Neither my BB nor my android have any concept of what is fair, so that is irrelevant.

You missed my point, which explains this unrelated diatribe. The point is that you are comparing apples and oranges, and are complaining because your orange is not an apple.

Actually, you missed the point. I prefer a device with a physical keyboard because it works better for what I use it for, and you decided that I am at fault for some reason. Just because for what you use your phone for, you are happy without a physical keyboard does not mean that this is the case for everyone else.

As I said, I'm happy for you that you have the phone that works for you, but don't try to tell me I'm wrong if it doesn't work for me.

 

[Splice]

I can see why people love them. Unfortunatly I manage about 2000 users on a Blackberry Enterprise Server. I can safely say this is the ****iest phone outthere!

 

[Maverick Jester]

Why should I change the way I send messages just because the manufacturer decided to leave off a keyboard? I want a device that I can send a message without having to concentrate on carefully hitting each virtual key every time, and I have one that does that. Neither my BB nor my android have any concept of what is fair, so that is irrelevant.

Why did you buy / get a phone that does not have a physical keyboard? It is illogical to buy a product that does not have a feature you find important, and then ask why you need to change your modus operandi to suit the product you chose? Would you buy a slip on shoe and complain that it doesn't have laces?

Actually, you missed the point. I prefer a device with a physical keyboard because it works better for what I use it for, and you decided that I am at fault for some reason. Just because for what you use your phone for, you are happy without a physical keyboard does not mean that this is the case for everyone else.

As I said, I'm happy for you that you have the phone that works for you, but don't try to tell me I'm wrong if it doesn't work for me.

Then don't get a device without a physical keyboard? It will not work for you in the way that you want, that is a fact.

 

[Colin62]

Why did you buy / get a phone that does not have a physical keyboard? It is illogical to buy a product that does not have a feature you find important, and then ask why you need to change your modus operandi to suit the product you chose? Would you buy a slip on shoe and complain that it doesn't have laces?

I got an Android phone because I needed to try it out. How would I know if I do or don't like a touch keyboard until I've tried one? I've tried it, and it doesn't work well for me. That is all. You felt the need to tell me I'm going to get used to it and will be faster (or at least as fast) on it, and I've been trying to tell you that you're wrong. But you won't hear that, and keep trying to make out that I've done something wrong, firstly because I can't type on a touchscreen because I'm not used to it, then when I explain that I am used to it but it still doesnt work you tell me I'm stupid to expect it to work as well as a physical keyboard.

You need to read your own posts carefully and try to follow any thread of logic, and I think you'll see that you're merely lashing out with emotional resposes everytime I say anything, and are not being at all consistent. Anyway, I've used up my quota of arguing with fools for the day and will move on.

Then don't get a device without a physical keyboard? It will not work for you in the way that you want, that is a fact.

You are indeed confused.

 

[Claymore]

I can see why people love them. Unfortunatly I manage about 2000 users on a Blackberry Enterprise Server. I can safely say this is the ****iest phone outthere!

I manage about 500; runs like clockwork. Mind you, I have noticed that far more BB owners are happy to get work emails, vs. the iPhone or Android users.

 

[10i]

The more I work with my Blackberry, the more I hate it.

I wish we could make Vodacom / MTN take back these **** phones are credit us so we can buy phones that work.

 

[Splice]

I manage about 500; runs like clockwork. Mind you, I have noticed that far more BB owners are happy to get work emails, vs. the iPhone or Android users.

I don't understand your point ? You can get company mails on iPhone or Android as well ?