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which graphics card can a broke man buy, one that will have me palying new games at relatively good graphics, one that won't leave a averagely-financed student with nothing to eat for 3 months after building a R4000 Amd pc.
 
H@stex said:
which graphics card can a broke man buy, one that will have me palying new games at relatively good graphics, one that won't leave a averagely-financed student with nothing to eat for 3 months after building a R4000 Amd pc.
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where do you live ?? i have 2 PCi-e gfx cards that i want to sell ....
 
This system for show

People I hope you haven't had enuf of me, I just dont have nowhere else to go, i respect ya'll and this forums.

What do you think of this system(as a gaming pc), rate it over 10.
The system components are as follows;

1. CPU- AMD® Boxed Athlon™ 64 3800+ Processor - 2.4GHz [Socket 939]

2. Motherboard- A8N-VM AMD Athlon 64 Micro ATX M/B [Socket 939]

3. Hard Disk drive- Seagate® Barracuda™ 7200.9 Series - 80GB Serial ATA II Plus

4. Optical Drive- GIGABYTE® 16x DVD Writer, 16x+R/-R, 8x +R/4x -R DL, 8x +RW, 6x -RW, 16x DVD, 48xCDR, 24x RW, White & Black

5. RAM- Kingston® ValueRam™ Series 512MB DDR400 184-Pin Memory Module: CL3, 6-Layer PC Board, Life-Time.

6. Agp card - ASUS® ATI Radeon X300SE - PCI-Express 128MB -TV-Out+ DVI-I - Full 16 lane support with 8GB/sec Bidirectional Peak Bandwidth
 
please rate in descending order

1. Powercolor Radeon™ X300 SE Graphics Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR, DVI, TV-Out

2. ASUS® ATI Radeon X300SE - PCI-Express 128MB -TV-Out+DVI-D - Full 16 lane support with 8GB/sec Bidirectional Peak Bandwidth

3. Gigabyte® ATI® Radeon X300 Hyper Memory 128MB + (128MB Shared) 64Bit, D-SUB + DVI + TV-OUT, DX 9 + OpenGL, MultiView

4. ASUS® ATI Radeon X300SE - PCI-Express 128MB -TV-Out+ DVI-I - Full 16 lane support with 8GB/sec Bidirectional Peak Bandwidth

5. ATi Radeon X300 PCI Express x 16 128MB DDR RAM (256MB Hyper Memory) W/DVI, TV-OUT
 
Skip the X300's, if you can possibly. The SE's are lesser cards than normal as well.
 
Getting socket 939 now isnt all that great of an idea
 
I think you have been ripped-off.Socket 939 amd,512m ram,mirco0atx board,x300se or R4000!!!!!

You should get AM2 socket amd,ddr2 ram,at least 160gb hd,at least 7300 for that price.

does the price include screen?
 
H@stex check my post in the other thread about the processor. The X2 is a better buy.
 
No I am just going for the system itself, I don't really want spen more than R4000.
 
For R4500:

1. CPU- AMD Boxed Athlon 64 3500+ Processor - 2.2GHz [Socket AM2]

2. Motherboard- ASUS M2NPV-MX AMD nForce 6150 + 430, 2000MT/s, 4xDual DDRII, 1xPCIx16 On Board VGA+DVI-D, 1xPCIx1, 2xPCI, 2xATA133, 4xSATAII(Raid 0,1 0+1,5), Gbe Lan, 6ch-Sound, Max 8xUSB, Mico ATX [Socket AM2]

3. Hard Disk drive- Samsung, 80Gb, 7200rpm, 2mb cache, ATA-133

4. Optical Drive- Samsung DVD Writer (black)

5. RAM- 2x Axiz 512MB DDR2-533MHz PC4700 240 Pin CL4 DIMM Memory Module (Dual Mode Capable) (limited lifetime warrantee)

6. PCIe card - XFX GeForce 7600GS 256MB DDR2 - (DVI+TV+DVI) : PCI-EXPRESS 16X

This has double the RAM, is much more upgradeble and has way better graphics for just R500 more. But if you are really limited to R4000, drop the one RAM stick for R500 and then upgrade it later on....
 
ya dude seriously that price is crazy 4k for a x300?

x300 is not for gaming but for ppl who want something a bit better than onboard vga

supersunbird's quote looks really good eh

my advice though spend the extra 500 bucks

512 meg ram aint going to cut it

but super is not cheaper to buy a 1 gig stick?
 
go with sunbirds deal much better :)
You really dont want to go anything less than 7600 gfx wise
 
guang said:
I think you have been ripped-off.Socket 939 amd,512m ram,mirco0atx board,x300se or R4000!!!!!

You should get AM2 socket amd,ddr2 ram,at least 160gb hd,at least 7300 for that price.

does the price include screen?
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no haven't bought the system yet, I don't need a monitor.
 
Brawler said:
Getting socket 939 now isnt all that great of an idea
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Actually its a fine idea, getting AM2 and thinking you are future proofed for a while (especially considering he cant afford better any time soon) wouldnt be all that great of an idea.

AM2 has no real advantage over 939, except 1 pin and DDRII, which is not very much. And especially seeing that new ram prices for DDRII are completely insane while there is tons of very cheap second hand DDR400 ram about. You can get a gig for less than R500 easily, compared to around R1100 min for DDRII.

Then soon AM2 will just be replaced by AM3 or whatever for Their X-4 variant..
 
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supersunbird said:
For R4500:

1. CPU- AMD Boxed Athlon 64 3500+ Processor - 2.2GHz [Socket AM2]

2. Motherboard- ASUS M2NPV-MX AMD nForce 6150 + 430, 2000MT/s, 4xDual DDRII, 1xPCIx16 On Board VGA+DVI-D, 1xPCIx1, 2xPCI, 2xATA133, 4xSATAII(Raid 0,1 0+1,5), Gbe Lan, 6ch-Sound, Max 8xUSB, Mico ATX [Socket AM2]

3. Hard Disk drive- Samsung, 80Gb, 7200rpm, 2mb cache, ATA-133

4. Optical Drive- Samsung DVD Writer (black)

5. RAM- 2x Axiz 512MB DDR2-533MHz PC4700 240 Pin CL4 DIMM Memory Module (Dual Mode Capable) (limited lifetime warrantee)

6. PCIe card - XFX GeForce 7600GS 256MB DDR2 - (DVI+TV+DVI) : PCI-EXPRESS 16X

This has double the RAM, is much more upgradeble and has way better graphics for just R500 more. But if you are really limited to R4000, drop the one RAM stick for R500 and then upgrade it later on....
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Okay this is pretty good, except I'm only spending R4500 for my new system too, just the case (plus insides) and a new keyboard. I'm getting:
3800+ X-2
1GB DDR400
7800GT
160GB SATA 8mb HDD
Case with 350Watt PSU
DVD rom
Undecided mobo, but some 939 board with (hopefully) gigabit LAN and SATA 2 because I need to get more HDD space. Probably gonna spend R500.
Oh and nice new Logitech Keyboard.. R120.

Alot of second hand stuff, but who cares. The 7800GT (only R1650), DVD rom, Case +kbrd are all new.

Oh about the PC, why give him a ATA HDD, I mean whats the point.. You want to save money, then give him a normal card, why waste money on XFX which will have very, very little impact especially when you are working with the lower end. Rather get SATA 2 and secure the 1 GB of ram, he would thank you alot more than having a nice box and some crappy fre software with his card.

Or, get some stuff second hand, new ram (especially DDRII) isnt worth it. You could probably also get at least a 160GB HDD for the price of that. Im getting a Wester Digital 8mb cache SATA for R350.
 
H@stex said:
which graphics card can a broke man buy, one that will have me palying new games at relatively good graphics, one that won't leave a averagely-financed student with nothing to eat for 3 months after building a R4000 Amd pc.
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Ekhaatvensters said:
Oh about the PC, why give him a ATA HDD, I mean whats the point.. You want to save money, then give him a normal card, why waste money on XFX which will have very, very little impact especially when you are working with the lower end. Rather get SATA 2 and secure the 1 GB of ram, he would thank you alot more than having a nice box and some crappy fre software with his card.
Or, get some stuff second hand, new ram (especially DDRII) isnt worth it. You could probably also get at least a 160GB HDD for the price of that. Im getting a Wester Digital 8mb cache SATA for R350.
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Yeah 160GB and 1GB will sure give him good gaming with a x300se or a 6150 chip... :rolleyes:

Tthe XFX is the cheapest 7600gs card around, you want me to go with a more expensive make?

939 3800+ x2's are basically not available in the channels anymore.

Anyway, my price basically is at cost and just goes to cover the costs (aka petrol) because I feel a bit charitable, but not charitable enough to go bargian hunting for second hand parts that might have problems and can not just be taken to a supplier to be swapped out without hassles.
 
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