I need to understand an Apple person ...

[undesign]

People want an Apple so they can be cool, yet in the world of Geekdom, having an Apple is the most uncool thing ever. Apple appeals to the sheep in the market, not the people who really want the most usability out of their device.

This is the most uninformed, biased, retarded tripe I've read in a long time. Are you 13?

/curses lack of negative rep button

 

[undesign]

I few months back I saw an ATV2 for sale - and the reason was he was going back to ATV1.

I Googled and most preferred the first generation because of the internal HDD as opposed to steaming (which most people said was slower). It had more connectivity and a full USB port too. Some even preferred the layout of the initial remote and the OS

Definitely not most. At best a small antiquated minority that still think internal storage and rca connections is the way to go. Barring very specific circumstances the ATV2 is an improvement over 1 gen for most users.

 

[cerebus]

That is what most people go on, rumors. Nothing has been confirmed but yet it will have this, that and the upgraded next thing.

It doesn't get much more solid than the collective information about the iPad3's retina display.

 

[Zyzzyva]

Apple's tiny product line means you very rarely get duds, which means it makes sense to roll the dice by selling your current hardware for a higher price if you can.

 

[Dolby]

So the majority of the 1 million people who bought the Apple TV 2 in the last quarter preferred the first gen model? Interesting, source?

I can't really give you a percentage that prefer the 1st over the 2nd - pretty much like you can't tell that all 100% that bought the ATV 2, love it to bits ...

As I say, a brief search shows it's it's pretty close between the two and quite a few reviews say rather keep your ATV1. Here's one http://www.myadventuresintech.com/2011/01/appletv-1st-generation-vs-2nd.html and all reviews say it's heavily cut down due to price of the 1st generation.

Another review mention that although it's cheap, it more limited http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...black-apple-tv-and-the-original-apple-tv.html ...

I'm not saying it's bad - I just don't see why people will instantly invest in something they haven't touched, seen or know nothing about. ATV2 is a fairly decent example of where there's not much of a difference (aside from lacking features that may have appealed to certain users) and adding a few other (which may not appeal - and make it pointless to buy)

 

[Dolby]

Definitely not most. At best a small antiquated minority that still think internal storage and rca connections is the way to go. Barring very specific circumstances the ATV2 is an improvement over 1 gen for most users.

Antiquated is first word that jumps to mind when I think of a new iMac having decade old USB2.0 and optical storage - but that's for another thread

It's not only the analogue ports - it's also a full size USB (extra storage) and components that are lacking. Those 3 ports may not be super important to you - but the flexibility is there and clearly there are some people that need/want them.

Basically, the ATV2 wasn't the super upgrade that everyone hoped for (it can't even high resolution...) and it was released a couple of years back? Something tells me the rumours then also included 1080 and there possibly a number of Apple folk that preordered without touching, seeing or even knowing the specs .... only to be disappointed.

As I said above, I just find it bizarre that everyone is planning on buying one without knowing anything of it. I'm a fan of many brands too, but I'd rather wait to see what the successor actually does .. rather than think 'it must be better! It comes from XYZ factory!'

MY 2c

 

[Neverwhere]

Be funny if they release it with no on board storage, and it somehow installs and streams all your apps, movies, music and pics from icloud. I know it's ridiculous, but waiting for it to release before selling your ipad2 makes sense, just incase they remove something you like, or the first generation has some flaw, like the antenna issue on the iphone 4. That did create an entire market for those antenna band-aids though lol.

 

[UnUnOctium]

Having read everything ...

Having an Apple product apparently puts you in the cool list. Apple has surpassed the $500 billion mark in terms of stock value, yet their actual value is a fraction of that. I'd rather invest in Google stocks at $600+ each, than take a chance on Apple. Apple's stocks are extremely volatile on a day-to-day basis, not to mention the hour-to-hour fluctuations.

Where Apple is strong is that they have a lot of after-market products enhancing their original product. Where they are weak is the lack of non-proprietary interfaces to their products (because it makes the after-market product so much more expensive due to licensing fees). I'd choose a straight MP3 player over an iPod, because if you don't know what you're doing, you run the risk of losing your entire collection, or at the very least - weeks of headaches sorting it out.

People want an Apple so they can be cool, yet in the world of Geekdom, having an Apple is the most uncool thing ever. Apple appeals to the sheep in the market, not the people who really want the most usability out of their device.

Actually, if you've been following the markets these last few weeks google has been very volatile while Apple has been climbing consistently with the exception of the big sell-offs tjese last 2 days. Fact is that apple.performs strongly since they have fanbois to drive their sales numbers. Google has reached its true value and is now a more difficult bet unless they make some big innovations and give some really good news.

 

[noxibox]

People want an Apple so they can be cool, yet in the world of Geekdom, having an Apple is the most uncool thing ever. Apple appeals to the sheep in the market, not the people who really want the most usability out of their device.

As with any gadgets some people buy them to look cool and some people buy them to use.

 

[Rashaad_Sallie]

It's simple ..... If you understand how drugs work then you will understand. That's it and we think you gonna love it.

 

[undesign]

So please enlighten me :

Without knowing anything of the product and without even having a picture of the device - the Internet is abuzz with people selling iPad 2 in order to buy the iPad 3 which no one knows anything about?

Surely the normal thing to do would be to wait for a technology product to actually be launched?

Received this RSS feed this morning -

Why You Want the New iPad So Badly

For a certain breed of consumers, the arrival of Apple’s third-generation iPad is an occasion of monomaniacal focus and intense anticipation. Visions of how the shiny new gadget will revolutionize their lives fill their heads. They’re willing to sacrifice hours waiting in line and hard-earned cash that they can ill afford to spare, all to get their hands on Apple’s hot new toy. Just like they did, most likely, for assorted iPads and iPhones in the past. Why is it that some consumers are constantly driven to possess the newest and hottest gadgets?

The lure of the new applies to consumers with a particular personality style. Psychology researchers have shown that each of us has our own level of craving for new things. They call this “novelty-seeking,” or the sexier alternative, “neophilia.” The curiosity motive, long known to cause both humans and non-humans to seek mental stimulation, exists to different degrees in all of us. Originally identified by psychiatrist Robert Cloninger, novelty-seeking is an automatic emotional orientation, one of four basic personality temperaments.

People with high degrees of novelty-seeking are drawn to new situations, experiences, and, of course, possessions. They tend to make impulsive decisions, be disorganized, and are highly oriented toward seeking and getting rewards. Research also shows that novelty-seeking is associated to addictive disorders, including substance abuse.

Generally speaking, people high in neophilia, or neophiliacs, are among those compelled to be on the lookout for the newest, highest-profile technological advances and to be first in line when the newest gadget shows up in stores. The “high” they experience while cradling their latest gadget is similar to the rush of pleasure that occurs in the reward centers of the brain when any type of addiction is satisfied. Techno-gadgets are particularly appealing because they themselves have addictive qualities, as any ardent player of Angry Birds will attest. Unfortunately, the “high” will fade quickly as the brain adapts and seeks the next rewarding novelty.

link

Now you know who is selling their ipad 2's on Gumtree - the neophiliacs.

 

[Dolby]

LOL ... well now that specs are out and people have seen photos, I understand ...

It was beforehand that baffled me.

 

[Jab]

Received this RSS feed this morning -



link

Now you know who is selling their ipad 2's on Gumtree - the neophiliacs.

Now, I agree it's quite reasonable and acceptable to dislike these Apple zombies, but I think it goes to far to accuse all of them of violating corpses.

 

[undesign]

Now, I agree it's quite reasonable and acceptable to dislike these Apple zombies, but I think it goes to far to accuse all of them of violating corpses.

I wouldn't be caught dead with one of them...

/lame jokes off

 

[iceman23]

Well I for one sold my iPad 2 and kept the 1st gen purely because of the security issues(Time gap for jailbreaks)

If they follow the same design for iPad 3 I can see myself not getting it either. I know most people dont mind stock but I prefer Jailbreaking just so I can get my Fav Open source projects working. for example XBMC

Yep, XBMC is awesome on an otherwise uninmpressive IPad 2...

 

[clasqm]

LOL ... well now that specs are out and people have seen photos, I understand ...

It was beforehand that baffled me.

Well, just to plunge you back into confusion, Dolby.

BEFORE I thought I would definitely buy the new one when it came out.

AFTER I am strongly considering saving some bucks on the old model while stocks last.

 

[sand_man]

Well, just to plunge you back into confusion, Dolby.

BEFORE I thought I would definitely buy the new one when it came out.

AFTER I am strongly considering saving some bucks on the old model while stocks last.

You crazy man!! Remember how good the iPhone 4's screen looked in relation to the 3GS?

I reckon there significant enough upgrades to make purchasing the new Pad mandatory

Retina display, processor, camera and LTE = winner

 

[Dolby]

Clasqm ... And likewise to confuse the rest of you, I consider buying it when it lands now that I've heard the details

The main pull being the screen

 

[sand_man]

Lol. Just lol.

 

[bwana]

I've got an iPad2 but it has a crack in the glass. Do I pay to have it repaired or save the money I would have used to repair it, sell it (I could get nearly $100 for the iPad2 in it's current condition) and buy a third gen?