ICASA gets tough on wireless nets

MaD

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Leave them alone ICASA - you can see there's a need for affordable internet access in SA!

You get tough on anyone but Telkom so you pick on the little ones...

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za</font id="size1"></font id="navy">
 
Well we ALL know South Africa's mentality...........or the lack there of
 
So they're trying to stop us from technical advancement but they don't do anything about Telkom who is holding the country back? Unbelievable.


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They should test this case in the Constitutional Court IMO. Everybody should have a right to communication. Communication Laws belong in the Dark Ages. Their design now is counter productive. Like all Laws, they need constant overhaul. The Telecommunication Laws in SA need to be reviewed as a matter of Urgency.
One can also take the situation further and state that Communication is a Right, like the Right to be able to breathe air or drink water. If I wanted to talk to my father 500 miles away, I should be able to do so without the threat of legal action, because of Laws created many years ago. The air waves do not belong to the state and are of common property.
Many of the laws surrounded the hard wire format we see like telephone lines and poles, were designed to prevent abuse. Can you imagine if everyone set up their own hard wired network crossing streets or provinces? It would be chaos. This was IMO, the original need to implement these laws. Now that new technology circumvents hard wired networks, many Governments like our own choose to stall Law Making in this Department. Why?
They cannot keep the inevitable at bay forever.
With the fact that Telkom in SA is not setting up Infrastructure anymore the Right to use Wireless Means to Communicate becomes a real issue. But certain elements don't wish this to happen. These elements might come from different sectors other than Telkom or ICASA. As time progresses the Companies that lose business will cry foul to Wireless Alternatives.
But how can you stop the future. Don’t we learn from History?

I'm am of the belief that in the not to distant future, technology will surpass Companies like Telkom and people will look back at this era as the Dark Ages in the History of Communications. A Renaissance period will follow. But we need to get out this rut we are in right now. ICASA type entities and Governments like ours will be dragged forward whether they like it, understand it or not. They won’t be able to stop what is going to happen. They cannot stop the Right to Communication.

Wireless is like a loophole to communication.



<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
 
<font size="5">I CALL IT LEGAL VICTIMIZATION!!!! IT IS WRONG!!!!</font id="size5">

### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###
 
Icasa is missing the point totally. Why are people setting up these types of Networks? Because the cost of Internet Access here is 20 times more than what it is in the US, UK. People find it hard to afford this on their own and have to split the cost with friends, community. If I could play, games, browse, etc at 512kbps for R 300 a month. Would I make all this effort to put up a Wireless Network? Maybe look at what is causing people to do this rather than just nailing them for doing it. I am not saying it is right or wrong to setup a wireless network crossing public space. That is where the law comes in I suppose. It is just a pity there is no law against victimizing the South African public like Telkom is doing.

just my 2c
 
As Mr Langa of ICASA said before in the Carte Blanche Video. Read the Carte Blanche Script here.

<b>Mandla Langa: “I mean, I can’t say we are happy or we are not happy. I can just say we are dealing with issues, with the facts as they stand, as they are presented to us by the policy makers.”

Monopolies don’t work, says Mandla. But ICASA without government cannot change the status quo.</b>

Everything points back to Government.
If Government forced ICASA to take the Wireless people on, they will be only drawing attention to themselves with their 39.3% shareholding in Telkom. A matter of Conflict of Interest. Is government protecting its shares in Telkom? This would prove interesting in court. And I urge, if possible that the Wireless People Unite and make a stand to change the status quo that Mr Langa refers to. They should seek perhaps International Legal Council or Local, but Council from Organisations that are committed to change in Telecommunication Laws.


<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">so you pick on the little ones... just as ridiculous and useless as SATRA was<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I agree 100% - how many times has Telscum given ICASA the middle finger - I would be happy if they were half as ferverent in enforcing their rulings on Telscum as they are on the "illegal" operators...

On the one hand it's a damn shame and on the other it's a bloody joke! Banana republic mentality comes to mind - Govt (no actually the genuis Dr Ivy) has totally screwed up the state of telecommunications in this country. I think that by now most, if not all, informed South Africans realise that deregulation is a must....
 
UniNetwork has a branch in Cape Town, and in PE. They do have a VANS licence and have been contributing to the Universal Service Fund (USF) for 2 years now.

UniNet laywers are considering action against both the Financial Mail and Lee-Ann Cassie for her inflamatory, and uninformed statements.

UniNet Management
 
Apologies for cross-posting (In deregulation) - but this is URGENT!

We are currently looking at forming a lobby group to oppose ICASA's current action against WISP's offering wireless internet access via 2.4Ghz using 802.x technologies

The current legislation to our knowledge has never been consitutionally challenged and the lobby group will endevour
to vigorously challenge current legislation.

The views of the forum members will be appreciated as well as input on the way foward.

Please voice your support!
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Please voice your support!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Sure, goes without saying.

<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ratezone</i>
<br />UniNetwork has a branch in Cape Town, and in PE. They do have a VANS licence and have been contributing to the Universal Service Fund (USF) for 2 years now.

UniNet laywers are considering action against both the Financial Mail and Lee-Ann Cassie for her inflamatory, and uninformed statements.

UniNet Management

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I dumped Telkom for Uninet and the speeds are brilliant.. a highly reccommended service.

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za</font id="size1"></font id="navy">
 
To all the members who are supportive of the lobby group thusfar - thanks for your speedy replies.

We have some of the best legal minds on board, who are well versed in the technology as well as members of the WISP community.

We want to take this fight all the way to the consitutional court if necessary.

With yesterday's announcement of the SNO, we are seriously after Minister of Communications, Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri, to lobby her to wake up to what is happening globally with Wireless.

Can SA really afford to get left behind? - again??
 
I have been using Aerosat, in Port Elizabeth, for just over a year. They are great !!!! Telkom watch out, Aerosat's wireless, is fast, reliable, and <u>CHEAP</u>.

I will never leave them. <b>I hope they kick ICASA's ass</b>.



Never give up, never surrender !!!!!!
 
I agree........<b>AEROSAT</b> rocks.

No other ISP or product can compete with Aerosat and their service, so why should I be forced to use some one else. Who in their right mind would pay more for a service, which does not come close to what I have with Aerosat.

Adsl could learn something from Aerosat about speed and customer service.

Aerosat, I'll be with you till I die.


<b>Icasa you suck.</b>
 
I tried ISDN, ADSL, you name it, I gave it a try. Nothing worked to my satisfaction until I tried Aerosat's connection.

It was the best move I ever made.

I seriously recommed Aerosat to anyone that wants cheap, reliable bandwidth in Port Elizabeth.
 
A man who has little expects little, a man who has much expects much.
Its time we start changing things and expecting more. We cannot be held back due to unfairness. Business is business, if people want to compete let them, but for a single company to be backed by the powers that be is not acceptable. This is a new age and we need to start getting into gear.
I am currently doing some tests and i for one am impressed with wireless, i will support this just direct me where to go.

PS: where can i contact you Nrv

Wireless all the way.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by MaD</i>
<br />Leave them the hell alone ICASA - you can see there's a need for affordable internet access in SA, dont be a bunch of morons!

You get tough on anyone but Telkom so you pick on the little ones... just as ridiculous and useless as SATRA was. I shake my head in shame.

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za</font id="size1"></font id="navy">
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It's time to give the President a call.
 
Moon,

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