IECNS licenses nearly a certainty

2008 or 2006?

Isn't that supposed to read 19 July 2006 as opposed to 19 July 2008?
 
Is that period to file appeal 15 "working" days? Or just 15 days?
 
court days. i.e working days
fyi court days means that days where the court is in recess are also not counted
 
Trust me she will concoct something
 
does this mean, that if I work with a VANS license, I can run my own fibre/copper infrastructure?
 
tjunyat said:
As far as I know, yes. However, you will first need to apply for and receive your new IECNS license from ICASA.
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Subject to correction by dominic, no it doesn't mean that news VANs will get an I-ECNS licence - it only applies to VANs that were previously disadvantaged under the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and that were licensed VANs prior to the promulgation of the Electronic Communications Act of 2005 [in 2006 IIRC], whose VANs licenses are yet to be converted [or rather their licence certificates issued] by !CASA according to the ECA.
 
ic said:
Subject to correction by dominic, no it doesn't mean that news VANs will get an I-ECNS licence - it only applies to VANs that were previously disadvantaged under the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and that were licensed VANs prior to the promulgation of the Electronic Communications Act of 2005 [in 2006 IIRC], whose VANs licenses are yet to be converted [or rather their licence certificates issued] by !CASA according to the ECA.
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IE. You need to be BEE and have your VANS license since before ECA of 2005?
 
schurtek said:
does this mean, that if I work with a VANS license, I can run my own fibre/copper infrastructure?
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apologies - in a hurry so going to refer you to http://www.ellipsis.co.za/?p=370

ic is being correct :)

if your VANS was issued before 19.07. 2008 (and subject to the caveats you will find in the link above) then
- there is no need to apply for an IECNS...ICASA will just let you know when and where to collect it
- once you have the licence you can roll out almost any kind of network infrastructure you care to - copper, fibre, laser, wireless, string-and-tin-cans etc
 
dominic said:
apologies - in a hurry so going to refer you to http://www.ellipsis.co.za/?p=370

ic is being correct :)

if your VANS was issued before 19.07. 2008 (and subject to the caveats you will find in the link above) then
- there is no need to apply for an IECNS...ICASA will just let you know when and where to collect it
- once you have the licence you can roll out almost any kind of network infrastructure you care to - copper, fibre, laser, wireless, string-and-tin-cans etc
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I foresee a new problem there - specifically the 'where to collect converted to I-ECNS licence certificates' - !CASA will say that the venue will be "the toilet attached to Poison Ivy's office at the DoC", and the 'when' will be when Poison Ivy has concluded her business in there.
 
but as ic stated, I must be previously disadvantaged? that means I need to be bee right? so all the licenses that are issued to us non-bee will be useless?
 
schurtek said:
but as ic stated, I must be previously disadvantaged? that means I need to be bee right? so all the licenses that are issued to us non-bee will be useless?
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Nope, it applies to legal entities and natural persons, i.e. registered companies and actual people, regardless of their BEE[E] status, provided that they were in possession of a VANs licence, which had been issued in their name, by !CASA, prior to 2008-07-19 [as posted by dominic], provided that the licence had not lapsed prior to 2005-02-01 and had been kept renewed, which in effect means that such legal entities and natural persons, that were classified as VANs, would have suffered under the oppressive monopoly of Telkodemonopolies which was protected [in particular] by Poison Ivy and Stalin-Mafole and Paris Mashile, and enshrined in the unjust and shameless legislation known as the Telecommunications Act of 1996 [which SBC and Telkodemonopolies and Jay Naidoo in particular had a hand in drafting behind the scenes]. Ergo, my description of such VANs, as having been previously disadvantaged under the oppression of the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
 
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I see ic...

So, if I am teaming up with a company that has had a VANS license for several years, and it has been updated and renewed consitently, we can then enter into a joint venture?
 
schurtek said:
I see ic...

So, if I am teaming up with a company that has had a VANS license for several years, and it has been updated and renewed consitently, we can then enter into a joint venture?
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Yes, I should think so, subject to correction from dominic who is the de facto guru in such matters of all things telecoms related :).
 
schurtek said:
I see ic...

So, if I am teaming up with a company that has had a VANS license for several years, and it has been updated and renewed consitently, we can then enter into a joint venture?
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sounds fine
they will have to get to grips with HDI/BEE at some stage in the near future
 
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