If Mashaba is elected, 'so be it' - Malema

What we can say for sure is, ANC is going to try their best to make things fail at the cost of the people
 
ToxicBunny said:
You are ignoring some of the difficult questions that have been posed to you.

What policies do you subscribe to if not the DA neo-liberal ones (as you call them), and why do you think the policies you subscribe to will be able to effect change?
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I ignored it because this thread in not a platform to debate ngwe23's economic policy. I do not want to derail the thread.
 
ngwe23 said:
I ignored it because this thread in not a platform to debate ngwe23's economic policy. I do not want to derail the thread.
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You're the one that brought it up.
 
ngwe23 said:
I ignored it because this thread in not a platform to debate ngwe23's economic policy. I do not want to derail the thread.
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You brought it up, and slated the DA's policies...

You need to clarify why you think they won't work, and why you think whatever policies (which you need to explain) will work.
 
ngwe23 said:
What, did I bring up my own economic policies on this tread?
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ngwe23 said:
I hink we all want things to improve. People differ on how to get things to improve. I personally do not subscribe to DA's neo liberal policies. They will only succeed in entrenching established players and leaving the poor in the peripheries of our society.
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Yes, right there.
 
ToxicBunny said:
You brought it up, and slated the DA's policies...

You need to clarify why you think they won't work, and why you think whatever policies (which you need to explain) will work.
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I have already done that. Just in case you missesd it:

They will only succeed in entrenching established players and leaving the poor in the peripheries of our society.
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ngwe23 said:
No buddy. This is not bring MY economic policies. I am just critiquing DA's policies. Big difference.
This is the last I will say on this matter.
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No, you were not critiquing their policies at all, you made a blanket statement. You have been asked for clarification on both your policies (so we can gauge a viewpoint) as well as why you don't think the DA's policies won't work.
 
ngwe23 said:
There is no way Mashaba is better than Parks Tau. Mashaba is a political novice.
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Geesus, wtf did I just read? :D

Herman Mashaba is a business minded genius. He is EXACTLY what Johannesburg needs. The only reason the EFF doesn't want him is because of him being business minded. They know they will have to beg, lie and steal to get money allocated to projects he would deem not to be of "Business" value. Johannesburg has been stolen dry. Herman Mashaba will make the books balance again and sure as hell, won't spend a cent more than is budgeted for. This is the EFF's issue.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Donald Trump is actually a piss poor businessman...

And btw, running a city is pretty much the same as running a large business. I know, its a strange idea but run with it in your head.
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This.

Trump’s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.
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Source: http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
 
Pitbull said:
Geesus, wtf did I just read? :D

Herman Mashaba is a business minded genius. He is EXACTLY what Johannesburg needs. The only reason the EFF doesn't want him is because of him being business minded. They know they will have to beg, lie and steal to get money allocated to projects he would deem not to be of "Business" value. Johannesburg has been stolen dry. Herman Mashaba will make the books balance again and sure as hell, won't spend a cent more than is budgeted for. This is the EFF's issue.
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Uhm, you do realise that the Johannesburg books'have been "balanced" for a while now? Evidenced by the ratings upgrade by Fitch and Moodys if you don't believe me...
 
sox63 said:
Uhm, you do realise that the Johannesburg books'have been "balanced" for a while now? Evidenced by the ratings upgrade by Fitch and Moodys if you don't believe me...
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Not really. There's tremendous wastage and inefficiency. Sure, the money may mostly be accounted for, but that does not mean it's well spent.
 
sox63 said:
Uhm, you do realise that the Johannesburg books'have been "balanced" for a while now? Evidenced by the ratings upgrade by Fitch and Moodys if you don't believe me...
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Its a "fake" balance :p

But, yes they have been balanced for a while, but that doesn't mean the city can't be run a hell of a lot better and I'm sure you will agree with that.
 
sox63 said:
Uhm, you do realise that the Johannesburg books'have been "balanced" for a while now? Evidenced by the ratings upgrade by Fitch and Moodys if you don't believe me...
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Yea sure. the books balance. Doesn't mean they aren't pissing away money that could be used to upgrade infrastructure and the likes. Johannesburg is probably one of the most wasteful municipalities in SA, if not, then definitely ranked up very high.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Its a "fake" balance :p

But, yes they have been balanced for a while, but that doesn't mean the city can't be run a hell of a lot better and I'm sure you will agree with that.
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Definitely on the efficiency we agree. But I have noticed a misconception that it's mismanaged.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I think for a lot of us, the inefficiency is a symptom of the mismanagement...
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For me mismanaged results it ineffectiveness, like other municipalities. CoJ stats regarding budget spend compare with CT for example.

Only major issue there has been imo, was the monumental **** up that was the SAP implementation by the IBM consortium.
 
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