I'm doing it: Going from Android to iPhone

SAguy said:
  • Androids second hidden OS for having a second copy of applications and hiding them is VASTLY superior to Apple's implementation

Overall I'm happy with the move, and with time I'll probably find new workflows to help with the above, there are definitely things that Android does better, and definitely things iPhone does better
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Just buy another iPhone. Also stop manually closing apps. You're just using more battery as the apps need to be fully opened again every time using precious resources.
 
SauRoNZA said:
You are aware you swipe down from the top-left of the screen from anywhere to see them right?
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True, but how do you know that you've got to check?
Example, sitting in front of the TV with phone in hand, you look up and miss the banner, you'd never know you missed a notification unless you specifically check the notifications. You don't just see a little icon somewhere in the status bar.

I know it's an edge case, and probably better for notification fatigue, but I am missing notifications - my habits need to change
SauRoNZA said:
Why do you need two hands? You either press the button top left to go "back" to the previous App or you swipe from the left side of the screen to the right to go back inside the same app. This is a pretty standard gesture across the OS and I've never specifically felt it not be available in any particular app with multiple windows.
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Just feels like unnecessary extra movement of your hands to get to those

SauRoNZA said:
Guess I'm so used to it this has never even come up as an issue. Purely muscle memory.
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It's definitely just a new habit to form, but it's a big difference

SauRoNZA said:
Stop doing this and stop doing this now...it's Android bullshit like restarting Windows. You do no need to close anything on iOS due to the way it manages resources. The option to close all apps doesn't exist for this very reason that Apple doesn't want you to be managing and closing ****.
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Gotcha
 
SAguy said:
True, but how do you know that you've got to check?
Example, sitting in front of the TV with phone in hand, you look up and miss the banner, you'd never know you missed a notification unless you specifically check the notifications. You don't just see a little icon somewhere in the status bar.
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I don't know you are talking to a guy here who is militant about not getting his life ruled by his device and notifications so I don't even have Lock Screen notifications on for anything that isn't definitely necessary.

About the only thing on my Lock Screen is notifications from the Bank and direct Messages on iMessage. All Group Messages on all platforms are off by default and individual messages on things like Telegram and WhatsApp are set to Badge only.

There is no need for me to check those things while I use my phone, the only time it has relevance to me is if my phone is off I tap the screen and then I see what's there that may be important.

Other than that I only have Badge icons on and have wished for a default notifications off function in iOS for over a decade.
 
SAguy said:
True, but how do you know that you've got to check?
Example, sitting in front of the TV with phone in hand, you look up and miss the banner, you'd never know you missed a notification unless you specifically check the notifications. You don't just see a little icon somewhere in the status bar.

I know it's an edge case, and probably better for notification fatigue, but I am missing notifications - my habits need to change
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Change your notification banner style from temporary to persistent. The banners won’t disappear until you dismiss them. You do have to do it per-app unfortunately.
 
Bernoldus Niemand said:
Just buy another iPhone. Also stop manually closing apps. You're just using more battery as the apps need to be fully opened again every time using precious resources.
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While this sounds like a joke he is 100% right.

Your phone will feel perceivably slower for having closed the apps as well.
 
defsec said:
Change your notification banner style from temporary to permanent. The banners won’t disappear until you dismiss them. You do have to do it per-app unfortunately.
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What I wouldn't give for global default settings...it has annoyed me forever and a day that you need to set this kak up for every app.
 
One other thing that I'll get used to:
My forearm/wrist are definitely feeling it, the way I turn my wrist to mess with my watch. Obviously I've been using it way more than normal while playing with everything, but there's a distinct ache in my arm

No, I'm not unfit
 
SAguy said:
One other thing that I'll get used to:
My forearm/wrist are definitely feeling it, the way I turn my wrist to mess with my watch. Obviously I've been using it way more than normal while playing with everything, but there's a distinct ache in my arm

No, I'm not unfit
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You could try positioning the dial/button on the other side.

SAguy said:
Inability to close all apps, you have to swipe each one away
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So you hate not being able to do something they expressly tell you is unnecessary to do in the first place?
 
SAguy said:
One other thing that I'll get used to:
My forearm/wrist are definitely feeling it, the way I turn my wrist to mess with my watch. Obviously I've been using it way more than normal while playing with everything, but there's a distinct ache in my arm

No, I'm not unfit
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Try put the dial on the other side and see how you go.

It could also be getting used to the sensor underneath which did hurt me at first and maybe you need to loosen the band a bit.
 
bwana said:
You could try positioning the dial/button on the other side.


So you hate not being able to do something they expressly tell you is unnecessary to do in the first place?
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Fair enough, but as a new iPhone user, that’s not information I would know
 
SAguy said:
Fair enough, but as a new iPhone user, that’s not information I would know
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True. However it comes up consistently in response to googling how you would close all your apps, hence my confusion.
 
SauRoNZA said:
You are aware you swipe down from the top-left of the screen from anywhere to see them right?

Your phone will only ever show notifications to you when your Face is in view, anyone else will just see a blank.

Why do you need two hands? You either press the button top left to go "back" to the previous App or you swipe from the left side of the screen to the right to go back inside the same app. This is a pretty standard gesture across the OS and I've never specifically felt it not be available in any particular app with multiple windows.

Guess I'm so used to it this has never even come up as an issue. Purely muscle memory.

Stop doing this and stop doing this now...it's Android bullshit like restarting Windows. You do no need to close anything on iOS due to the way it manages resources. The option to close all apps doesn't exist for this very reason that Apple doesn't want you to be managing and closing ****.
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Actually it's not Android BS, it's there if you want to do it. You don't need to do it, but some people like to, so the option is there.
The exact same issue happens on Android, can make it feel slower and use more battery.
 
Lupus said:
The exact same issue happens on Android, can make it feel slower and use more battery.
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It's not the same issue because it doesn't do that on iOS. If you have a problem with an app (sure, it happens), then you can [quickly] close that app.
 
SAguy said:
I got my iPhone and Ultra 2 a few days ago, man it's been a rough couple of days.

Migration of WhatsApp went very well, just took maybe 4 hours or so.

What I'm loving:
  • Everything works so well together, handing off pages, copy/paste, etc
  • The privacy features for app permissions are superior to Android, it's a lot easier to give specific permissions
  • The shortcuts for programming things

What I'm figuring out:
  • Getting the notifications just right is proving to be a challenge, I'm missing notifications because I'm used to seeing them in the status bar on the top of the Android - on iPhone it's not there. So if set an app to not have a banner for notifications while I'm on my phone, it's very difficult to actually see the notifications
  • Figuring out how to be discrete but also have some options for messaging from the watch, I don't want entire messages/images to show on my watch. Like what if I'm making a cup of tea for my MIL and then I get a message from a boys group
  • I have near zero idea how anything on the watch works tbh

What I hate:
  • This lack of a persistent back button is mindblowing - you are forced to use two hands. Each app decides how to handle going back, and this lack of uniformity is surprising on an iPhone
  • The lack of numbers and period/comma on the keyboard all the time. I know you can double tap for a period, but to insert a comma you need to go into the symbols menu (or swipe in it)... why?
  • Inability to close all apps, you have to swipe each one away
  • Androids second hidden OS for having a second copy of applications and hiding them is VASTLY superior to Apple's implementation

Overall I'm happy with the move, and with time I'll probably find new workflows to help with the above, there are definitely things that Android does better, and definitely things iPhone does better
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Try Gboard. I'm also not a fan of the iOS keyboard.
 
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