#ImLeaving - Relocation Advice?

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wetwipes

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So I've made the difficult decision to leave SA. I will miss my family and the beautiful outdoors (I'm a hiking enthusiast - my hiking buddies say I'm going to miss the sun :)

I will not miss greed, corruption, crime, crony appointments, EE and paying taxes for services I don't receive (such as an efficient Post Office, electricity, policing, health.....and the list goes on).

I am a specialist doctor, currently with my own practice at a Netcare hospital. I am in the process of selling the practice.

After Brexit the most important country in Europe is Ireland (except for Malta it's the only English speaking country in the EU) and I will be joining a practice in Dublin as a senior Associate with opportunity for partnership once I've established a relationship.

My employer will be making an application for a work permit for me, though it's possible that because we are a small private practice it will be a general work permit rather than a critical skills one. Either way I'm grateful to have a good job lined up.

Given that the practice would be sponsoring my visa, I'm not sure just what I can ask for in terms of relocation allowance. I'm a single guy so the only major cost would be moving my furniture (I've been quoted R100k for a half container).

I have to negotiate my package next week and don't want to look to expensive. For those who've emigrated (or know those who have), is there a standard/basic allowance for international relocation that I could legitimately expect or would I have to pick up this cost myself?
 
So I've made the difficult decision to leave SA. I will miss my family and the beautiful outdoors (I'm a hiking enthusiast - my hiking buddies say I'm going to miss the sun :)

I will not miss greed, corruption, crime, crony appointments, EE and paying taxes for services I don't receive (such as an efficient Post Office, electricity, policing, health.....and the list goes on).

I am a specialist doctor, currently with my own practice at a Netcare hospital. I am in the process of selling the practice.

After Brexit the most important country in Europe is Ireland (except for Malta it's the only English speaking country in the EU) and I will be joining a practice in Dublin as a senior Associate with opportunity for partnership once I've established a relationship.

My employer will be making an application for a work permit for me, though it's possible that because we are a small private practice it will be a general work permit rather than a critical skills one. Either way I'm grateful to have a good job lined up.

Given that the practice would be sponsoring my visa, I'm not sure just what I can ask for in terms of relocation allowance. I'm a single guy so the only major cost would be moving my furniture (I've been quoted R100k for a half container).

I have to negotiate my package next week and don't want to look to expensive. For those who've emigrated (or know those who have), is there a standard/basic allowance for international relocation that I could legitimately expect or would I have to pick up this cost myself?
 
wetwipes said:
I have to negotiate my package next week and don't want to look to expensive. For those who've emigrated (or know those who have), is there a standard/basic allowance for international relocation that I could legitimately expect or would I have to pick up this cost myself?
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As they won't have to pay anything for your spouse/offspring, seeing as you're single, they really should not complain about paying each and every cent you need for relocation.
wetwipes said:
After Brexit the most important country in Europe is Ireland (except for Malta it's the only English speaking country in the EU)
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The Netherlands has banned you.
 
wetwipes said:
So I've made the difficult decision to leave SA. I will miss my family and the beautiful outdoors (I'm a hiking enthusiast - my hiking buddies say I'm going to miss the sun :)

I will not miss greed, corruption, crime, crony appointments, EE and paying taxes for services I don't receive (such as an efficient Post Office, electricity, policing, health.....and the list goes on).

I am a specialist doctor, currently with my own practice at a Netcare hospital. I am in the process of selling the practice.

After Brexit the most important country in Europe is Ireland (except for Malta it's the only English speaking country in the EU) and I will be joining a practice in Dublin as a senior Associate with opportunity for partnership once I've established a relationship.

My employer will be making an application for a work permit for me, though it's possible that because we are a small private practice it will be a general work permit rather than a critical skills one. Either way I'm grateful to have a good job lined up.

Given that the practice would be sponsoring my visa, I'm not sure just what I can ask for in terms of relocation allowance. I'm a single guy so the only major cost would be moving my furniture (I've been quoted R100k for a half container).

I have to negotiate my package next week and don't want to look to expensive. For those who've emigrated (or know those who have), is there a standard/basic allowance for international relocation that I could legitimately expect or would I have to pick up this cost myself?
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All the best.
 
Flojo said:
All the best.
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Thank you. Many people have accused me of being unpatriotic, especially because South Africa needs my skills. But I'm not so much as leaving as being pushed out. I voted for Mandela's ANC. What is really heartsore is that South Africa had so much potential, only for it to be burnt to the ground.

I'm a person of faith and so I don't want to be a racist but I can see Im becoming that. When I see a government prepared to destroy the lives of so many, it's hard not to resent the black majority for continuing to elect them into office.
 
Do not pay 100k for furniture, that's beyond silly. Get a movecube for stuff that is important (12-20k) and just get new furniture here. It's cheap and readily available from plenty places. Can't help you on the relocation costs thing, we moved over on our own. Good luck and most of all, enjoy the experience without looking back ;)
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
Do not pay 100k for furniture, that's beyond silly. Get a movecube for stuff that is important (12-20k) and just get new furniture here. It's cheap and readily available from plenty places. Can't help you on the relocation costs thing, we moved over on our own. Good luck and most of all, enjoy the experience without looking back ;)
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Agreed - we moved with a whole bunch of furniture (my company covered it all), but once we moved in, it didn’t really suite the space or the style of the rental we got anyway.

After a few months of earning $’s we could also buy nicer stuff regardless.
 
Sell the furniture
Go to Ikea - you will sh t yourself. Nice selection, affordable as hell.

We literally "escaped" Africa with 2 suitcases, earned $'s and bought what we needed.

Good luck and wise decision :cool:
 
abzo said:
Omg sinbad you can’t just say that.

He said Mandela’s ANC so perhaps he meant in 1994.
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In 1994 the anc was a communist aligned organization with a policy of acts of terror against civilian targets. Leopard/spots etc.

Even if the leader changed his tune, there is a lot of inertia and a lot of belief rising up through the ranks, as we see now.
 
Relocation allowances differ from company to company and include an array of perks, ie assistance with visas, household goods allowance, pet relocation, assistance with temp accommodation, car allowance etc etc.

I would say try to get assistance with taking a 20ft container (or half as you mention) and 3 month temp accommodation.
 
Sinbad said:
In 1994 the anc was a communist aligned organization with a policy of acts of terror against civilian targets. Leopard/spots etc.

Even if the leader changed his tune, there is a lot of inertia and a lot of belief rising up through the ranks, as we see now.
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So you’re saying voting ANC in 1994 makes you a communist and terrorist sympathizer.

And the narrative is that not voting ANC in 1994 makes you...racist?

Eish tough one.
 
abzo said:
So you’re saying voting ANC in 1994 makes you a communist and terrorist sympathizer.

And the narrative is that not voting ANC in 1994 makes you...racist?

Eish tough one.
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Narrative is opinion, facts are facts. There were other parties to vote for in '94, that narrative is bullshit perpetuated by the ANC's propaganda machine so they can keep the gravy flowing.
 
flarkit said:
Just curious, why take the furniture over, rather than starting fresh and buying on that side?
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I don't understand it either. I would go with just a suitcase and get what I need there as I did when I did the whole expat thing for a while. My dad did the whole move his stuff from place to place as he transfered locations with his company (Brazil, Canada, Scotland, Denmark, Indonesia), while he was looking for the perfect place to settle down in, and he just ended up with a ton of mismatched furniture in every place he went to. He eventually moved back to SA with a ton of extra crap that cost his company a fortune to send over.
 
Just Remember Ireland is really expensive, dublin is one most expensive cities in the EU. But considering your a doctor your salary should be fine :)
 
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