Immediate and Urgent call to action

Hi LaRoosTa

Thanks for that report...read most of it and will reread it a few more times to let it sink in. Makes one gasp!
 
rsd said:
I could be mistaken, but the ADSL stuff is resold by SAIX, not Telkom. I'm guessing this means that the per gig stuff doesn't fall under what ICASA is able to control, pricing wise.

Maybe Telkom's doing this to counter the (potential) removal of the line rental?
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RSD, SAIX is TELKOM: http://www.saix.net/
It's TELKOM SAIX.
 
Where is this going to end??

I've have upgraded from dial-up to ADSL last month. Just to find out today that Telkom is planning on raise the stakes, by letting us pay per gig. :mad:

I had a prepaid phone, my phone rent and isp with my calls came down to the same price as ADSL. Now i got more Bandwidth. I play online radio, al the time when i'm home. At the end of the night, after about 5 hours i've reached +/- 90-100 Mb. So that means i must upgrade again, to 10Gb. Just for lissening to the radio, Telkom is going to send me an impressive Bill????? :confused:

So now I must upgrade to isdn/dial-up again??

I agree with Peapod. So please pass on the forms. :cool:
 
Whatcha do is... you rip up your telkom coppers and we all go back to the old tin-on-a-string bit like we used when we were kids :P Either that or carrier pidgeons :)
 
Peapod said:
Okay...so lets keep this thread as relevant as we can to the task at hand. Are we agreed then that we immediately
1. All recruit at least 10 new members as fast as possible - encourage them to make one post even if its to the guests thread to say "howzit i'm here"
2. Prepare a letter to Telkom asking them for clarity and transparency on the rumoured pricing structures ahead of any implementation
3. Write the same letter in the open press so that we expose our position and gather more support.

THEN.....
If the worst case happens or looks inevitable,
We follow the original proposed steps and let all shades of hell loose as hard and as loud as we can, Press, ICASA, President, Government, DoC and Telkom?

Wizard, are you guys ready with some serious protest action in support of this?
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Agreed - I think this sounds like a reasonable first step. I don't think RPM would disagree with this. Lets get the ball rolling.
 
We need to take it easy for a while guys. ICASA has indicated they will act against Telkom and we need to give them some space to do this. I seriously cannot see how Telkom can get away with price hikes on the 1st of November. If they do, it won't last if the ICASA findings go through to legislation.

We need to have a little faith now. At least until the legislation is tabled and we can see what kind of influence the minister is exerting on the legislation and what Telkom wants done...

IMO it is time to save our energy, not waste it. ICASA has shown a little faith and we need to return the favor. Lets hope they do not disappoint.

Just my opinion.

Regards
Antowan
 
I agree with everyone putting their faith in ICASA, give the gears in ICASA a chance to work.
 
antowan said:
We need to take it easy for a while guys. ICASA has indicated they will act against Telkom and we need to give them some space to do this. I seriously cannot see how Telkom can get away with price hikes on the 1st of November. If they do, it won't last if the ICASA findings go through to legislation.

Just my opinion.

Regards
Antowan
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I fully agree with Antowan ...................but having said this nothing should stop us form preparing for 1 November so if Telkom DOES try force the new pricing on use we will be ready with massive and vigorous response......

regards clubbe
 
I agree. Let's not be hasty and give Telkom something to disarm the credibility of this forum. I say let's wait and see. This might be something Telkom initiated deliberately as far as it being an unconfirmed rumour and all. Their strategy might be to get us in an uproar over these high prices, so that when they do increase the price again - we won't think much of it and accept it compared to what was going to take place. Global trends however are working opposite and ADSL is in FACT becoming cheaper not more expensive like in this country. We shouldn't accept any increases!
 
We all need to calm down and wait for ICASA's suggestions with regards to ADSL. Their independent muscle needs to be stretched to see if they can indeed protect the South African public from telecoms abuse. Heck the new regulations are less than 2 weeks away anyways.
 
telkom under the latest price control regulations is allowed to adjust tariffs so as to derive a 0.1% increase in revenue (according to them they have brought the basket of prices down by 3% to makes telecomms "even more affordable" (direct quote - i kid you not these people have no Shame)...i have not looked into it but if the supposed prices are not in line with this they will, afaik, be illegal
 
disclaimer: most of the information contained in my last post was taken from the telkom marketing insert in my most recent account

but ICASA theoretically controls pricing - it is a regulatory attempt to create a fictitious competitive environment fot telkom....Debbie2 is probably the best qualified to comment on this aspect

and i stand by the fact that telkom cann0ot just willy-nilly change its pricing - @ this stage i reserve judgement as i cannot believe they would try and increase the cost of adsl while they are in the crosshairs of whatever gun it is that ICASA holds (pop? shot?)
 
Hi all

I am telkom slapped back to the end of the line and held there by a mighty big telkom thumb*sniff*. I gave em a call today to see how my ADSL order was going, they cancelled it and didn't bother to tell me! From my initial online application (which they did not get), to my reapplication at the telkom Tygervalley business shop a week later (a total of 4 weeks till now), they said something along the lines of: Sorry you do not pass the conformancy testing in your area. Protea Village has got modern fibre optic exchanges, which use a protocol not compatible with ADSL. We would have to replace all the fibre optics with copper lines, because adsl only works over copper. I am very sorry (the telkom lady whom I spoke to) but there is nothing we can do to help you...blah blah...thanks for your valued support, good bye. ARGH!!

A few minutes later I called again to ask several questions regarding my local exchange, future ADSL plans for my area, why I get a ridicules 28.8k max dialup connection with my exchange (for the past 6 years!), etc. I wanted answers! The lady at 10219 didn't have the answers and suggested I call 0800375375 (telkom ADSL depart.) , which I did with no joy. I was given another 0800 number (0800456786), which didn't help much either, to finally be given an email address of a "specialist" there, to pose my questions! ([email protected], pls spam!! HEHE)

What telkom did reassure me as a fact, is that they are planning to replace, modernise all exchanges in the country, for ADSL. I certainly hope so. I was told to reapply for my ADSL in a months time and hopefully they would be ready for me (RIGHT! more like when they feel like it and you'll be lucky you get it at all!).

So I'm stuck with my pathetic analog line and more NEGATIVE feelings for that evil company we all love to hate :(

Sorry for all my whinging! I'm very sad just now! I wonder how many others there are like me, waiting on telkom to give em a wee bit of service! BTW again... Prior to all this, I spoke to a work college's brother this morning, who works for telkom. We spoke for about 15 min regarding ADSL, although ADSL is not his department, importantly what he did say was, that no one at telkom has received anything regarding Nov 1st ADSL pricing structure (yet). He said it would be crazy for telkom to shoot themselves in the foot like that, to make ADSL any more expensive than it is at the moment. For what its worth I hope he's right! He also said that telkom is heavily involved in rolling out, driving all the new technologies. He said they are currently struggling to keep up with demand for ADSL, and that it is completely contracted to an outside source, for the rollout, etc. It was an interesting conversation, getting this guys neutral perspective. Lastly he hinted that telkom was concentrating on providing better services in the future, comparable to other countrie's prices and technologies. I hope that it is so...

Cheers! here's wishing... (being a dialup user, I can't even start complaining about my ADSL line yet! ;)

P.S.: I hope my bitching adds to the flames!
 
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well firstly to peapod...

Already ahead of you on your regard.:)


With the purpose of having a channel myadsl.co.za on a different server we have managed to get so far a total of -+ 27 users to join up on the forums. Surprisingly most ppl were guest users just browsing throu the topics.

But

We need to continue and strive for the best and not stand for anything less!!!

laters
 
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