Immigrating to Ireland

crocopede

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Hi

Any useful information to immigrate to Ireland to be shared here.
We are in the long process of doing this. Ireland specifically due to well... we cannot find work in other countries.

Also, Ireland refunds 90% of visa applications if failed. It costs a fraction to apply as opposed to OZ or NZ visa applications.
They are also much quicker to process.

What I know so far.
  1. We need 350k to emigrate
  2. The above sum is to ship our car, household contents, our dogs and have 3 months worth of rent and day to day expenses covered
  3. Shipping dogs are about 40 - 60k per dog. There is no quarantine period if you follow the correct process.
  4. You require unabridged marriage and birth certificates for each family member applying to immigrate.
  5. Quality of housing is sub-par to SA.
  6. Heating bills are around 400 euros a month
  7. Finding accommodation that allows pets is nearly impossible
  8. Owning a car in Ireland is near unaffordable due to the excessive insurance costs. Insurance on a car often costs more than the actual car in comparison to installments.
  9. You have to give your bank 90-day notice before selling your house to avoid penalties.
  10. Child care is extremely expensive in Ireland. Au-Pairs work out cheaper than daycare or childminders.
  11. It's generally cheaper for one parent to work as opposed to both due to the taxation model in the country.
  12. Before shipping your car and other household items you have to be in Ireland for 3 months and have proof of your house being sold in SA to qualify for an exemption on import duties for the car and other items. If you do not qualify for import duty exemptions it might not be worth shipping your home contents and car.
  13. Best weather is in Wexford / Waterford.
  14. Dublin crime is increasing. Stabbings are becoming more commonplace. ATM theft is also increasing. Unlike SA they do not use explosives. They use bulldozers to rip ATMs out of the walls.
  15. Rural crime is a major problem with livestock being stolen.
  16. Farm attacks have been on the increase since 2008, however, unlike SA a farm attack is considered being punched in the face.
  17. The weather is my kind of weather with lots of rain. Vitamin D supplements recommended for the first few months for SAffers.
  18. Shootings and other civil unrest on the rise on the border with Northern Ireland due to Brexit uncertainty and the hard border.

I will post more valuable information as we progress in our journey.
 

crocopede

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The process if you intend on taking your dogs with.

Step 1 (MicroChip)
The microchip must be inserted before the rabies vaccination, and must be readable by a device compatible with ISO standard 11785
You may carry your own hand-held scanner if the microchip is not readable by a device compatible with ISO standard 11785

Step 2 (Vaccinate Rabies then blood test)
Blood tests are around R2000 per dog


(i) The vaccination must be given after the microchip is inserted.
A rabies vaccination with a 3-year validity period is acceptable for entry into Ireland.

(i) You must wait at least 30 days after the rabies vaccination has been given before the blood test is carried out.
(ii) Your vet must send the blood sample to
South Africa ARC-Onderstepoort Veterinary Institute
Tel: 012 529 9111 - 012 529 9439 - 012 529 9420
Fax: 012 529 9390
E-mail: OieRabLab@arc.agric.za


(iii) The result of the blood test must show that the vaccination was successful (a rabies antibody level of at least 0.5 IU/ml).
(iv) The animal must wait three months from the date a satisfactory result has been recorded, before it can travel to the EU, including Ireland.

Your vet should give you the official test results and also enter the date the blood sample was taken into the EU health certificate and/or passport.

Alternatively, vets can ship the blood to germany at a little extra charge for a quicker turnaround time.

Step 3 (EU Health Certificate)
Your pet must be accompanied by a EU health certificate (also known as EU Annex IV Health Certificate), before entering an EU country, including Ireland. https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/pets/euhealthcertificatescompliancechecksandadvancenotice/


An EU health certificate must be:
1. completed by your veterinary practitioner, AND
2. signed and endorsed by an Official (State) Veterinarian of the country of departure, within 10 days of pets arrival into the EU (point b, page 4 of the health certificate refers), AND
3. immediately upon arriving into the EU, signed and endorsed by the EU country which performed the compliance checks.
An Official State Veterinarian is a veterinarian directly employed by the Government in the country of departure

Step 4
Dogs must have a tapeworm (Echinococcus multilocularis) treatment
The treatment must be given by a veterinarian not more than 120 hours (5 days) and not less than 24 hours (1 day), before the scheduled arrival time of the dog in Ireland.


Step 5
1. Pets must enter Ireland through Dublin Airport only and must undergo compliance checks on arrival.
2. It is your responsibility to ensure that your animal undergoes the compliance check.
3. You must organize compliance checks for your pet landing in Ireland in advance of your arrival at Dublin Airport.
4. There is a fee for compliance checks on pets
5. Compliance checks may be performed at Dublin Airport or at the quarantine facility (Lissenhall Veterinary Hospital).
Address SwordsCo Dublin Ireland
Phone +353 1 890 0375

To organize this check, contact a Department of Agriculture officer by:
pressing the button marked Duty Supervisor on the courtesy telephone outside the Department of Agriculture offices in the baggage reclaim hall, opposite
• carousel No. 6 in Terminal 1, or
• carousel No. 2 in Terminal 2.
Mobile telephone number: + 353 (0) 87 417 8986

Email advance notice of your arrival in Dublin Airport to petmove@agriculture.gov.ie so an official can meet you on arrival and check your pet. Use the form below.
 

Spizz

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First of all, good luck with the move. Ireland is a lovely place and the people are friendly and welcoming in my experience.

But I wanted to ask about the dogs and the price you mention. Fair enough those procedures, but in the actual shipping of the dog, have you shopped around and what company would you recommend? Why such a big difference in price mentioned, is that seasonal with flight prices? Do the dogs fly in the hold and you are on the same flight?
 

Mephisto_Helix

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Paying R34k for 2 medium sized dogs end May ..... shop around, you're being quoted a high price. Taking your car and household stuff is an expense you can (and majority do) forego. Just buy new once over there, it's cheap
 

Freshy-ZN

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We fly to Dublin in 18 days. All on EU passports so no need for Visas etc. Have a short term rental in Wexford from which we will start the process of jobs->place to stay->schools

For anyone thinking of Ireland there is a Facebook group called "South Africans moving to Ireland" which has all the info you could want. The page creator has written a comprehensive eBook will all the info in an orderly and easy to find place.
 

marco

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No need for a visa for Ireland.
Are you or your wife a qualified person to live in Ireland? ie. Do either of you hold an EU country passport or have a skill needed in Ireland?
 

RandomGeek

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No need for a visa for Ireland.
Are you or your wife a qualified person to live in Ireland? ie. Do either of you hold an EU country passport or have a skill needed in Ireland?
Agreed, no need if you are visiting. But if you want to work there you need to get the correct visa in place
 

Freshy-ZN

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No need for a visa for Ireland.
Are you or your wife a qualified person to live in Ireland? ie. Do either of you hold an EU country passport or have a skill needed in Ireland?
There is if you don't have EU passports, are'nt claiming EU Treaty rights as Spouse of EU person etc.
One would need a Work permit to live and work.
 

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Freshy-ZN

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Interestingly enough Ireland is the only country (in the EU) that allows SA citizens to visit with no Visa requirements (for tourism).
Yes but you will be subjected to the same kind of scrutiny as if applying for a visa on other countries and will have to satisfy Immigration that you intend to return. Proof would include return tickets, bank statements, proof of employment and other commitments back home etc etc etc
 

DrJohnZoidberg

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Interestingly enough Ireland is the only country (in the EU) that allows SA citizens to visit with no Visa requirements (for tourism).

https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/south-africa/passports/top-passport-questions/to-travel-between-south-africa-and-ireland/

"South African Passport Holders Travelling to Ireland
South African passport holders do not require a visa to visit Ireland for tourism or similar reasons. However, other immigration procedures apply see www.inis.gov.ie "
Yup it's great. Went last year to meet up with some work colleagues. Had a great time and was very smooth sailing entering at passport control.
 

RandomGeek

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Yes but you will be subjected to the same kind of scrutiny as if applying for a visa on other countries and will have to satisfy Immigration that you intend to return. Proof would include return tickets, bank statements, proof of employment and other commitments back home etc etc etc
True - it just makes a look-see-decide trip easier, as well as family wanting to come visit
 

PhreakBoy

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OP, could you elaborate on whether you are emigrating on SA passports or whether you have EU rights?

Is a visa application possible if you do not have an offer of employment in Ireland?

How to go about getting an offer of employment?
 
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