Immigrating to the UK

Priapus said:
The decision letter I got mentioned the NI number will be on the back of the BRP.

I assume it will be ready for collection as soon as i land in the UK next month. It’s going to a local post office near where we staying.
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No doubt it will be ready. We left 3 days after we got a decision and BRP was ready within 2 weeks iirc.
 
The Voice said:
Oh wow ok didn’t know they dish them out automatically now. We thankfully didn’t have to bother because ours were still valid from when we lived here 10 years before.
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I think they do for the skills visa

www.gherson.com

Why does my national insurance number appear on my biometric residence permit?

Biometric Residence Permits (‘BRP cards’) are issued by the Home Office in evidence of UK immigration status. In certain cases, your UK national insurance number will appear on your BRP card.
www.gherson.com www.gherson.com
If you have applied for a Skilled Worker visa, by default, the Home Office should issue you with a BRP card stating your UK national insurance number. This is because you need a UK national insurance number for your UK employment income to be correctly taxed, and as a Skilled Worker, you will be coming to the UK in order to take up full-time employment.

For the majority of other visa categories, the Home Office do not, by default, issue BRP cards with your UK national insurance number featuring. If your visa gives you the ability to work in the UK and you intend to do so, you will need to apply to the Department for Work and Pensions separately in order to obtain a UK national insurance number.
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The Voice said:
We thankfully didn’t have to bother because ours were still valid from when we lived here 10 years before.
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They keep those NI numbers forever. I worked here in 97-98, and then moved back over in 2013. NI number was still valid and I have those 2 years counting toward my full years of contributions.
 
Dave said:
NI number is issued once and valid for life.
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Actually....

I was given an NHS number when I was born. When I came back and presented it, I was told it is not valid and will have to apply for a "new" number.

I know, very extreme case
 
AdrianH said:
Actually....

I was given an NHS number when I was born. When I came back and presented it, I was told it is not valid and will have to apply for a "new" number.

I know, very extreme case
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Is the national insurance number the same as an NHS number?
 
Priapus said:
Yeah if it’s a refusal they give you a letter too, to explain. With a SWV I think they only refuse if you don’t qualify. If you were missing documentation they email and ask for such.

Unless you’re like this moron sho applied for a SWV and got this love letter back.

He is on Reddit now too complaining. But probably has a 10 year ban.

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Oof. You got a link the thread?
 
Sinbad said:
No
NI is like your SARS tax reference number
NHS number is your medical aid membership number, you'll get it from your GP when you register
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I hope my SARS tax goes smoothly, I have nightmares over them making my life hell this year
 
AdrianH said:
Actually....

I was given an NHS number when I was born. When I came back and presented it, I was told it is not valid and will have to apply for a "new" number.

I know, very extreme case
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That’s weird, NI numbers are only issued when you’re 15 years and 9 months old, not at birth. Was your original number in the proper format and not a TN type number?
 
Dave said:
That’s weird, NI numbers are only issued when you’re 15 years and 9 months old, not at birth. Was your original number in the proper format and not a TN type number?
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He is confusing NHS and NI numbers, which are not the same thing.
 
Tax question for folks who have made the move - did you do the whole non-resident thing with SARS, or are you applying the DTA to avoid being taxed in SA? I can't get a straight answer regarding the "expat tax" if you are dual tax resident. Most seem to say it does not override a DTA and the expat tax does not apply if you're dual resident between SA and UK.
 
JayM said:
Tax question for folks who have made the move - did you do the whole non-resident thing with SARS, or are you applying the DTA to avoid being taxed in SA? I can't get a straight answer regarding the "expat tax" if you are dual tax resident. Most seem to say it does not override a DTA and the expat tax does not apply if you're dual resident between SA and UK.
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I did the non-res thing with sars. Was easy.
 
Sinbad said:
I did the non-res thing with sars. Was easy.
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Also need to do this. What does it mean. You have no more money and assets in SA? And then submit the application? What if you still have some bank accounts?
 
xcaliber said:
Also need to do this. What does it mean. You have no more money and assets in SA? And then submit the application? What if you still have some bank accounts?
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You have to be able to prove that you're living overseas, tax resident overseas and with no significant ties in SA which could call into question the fact that your normal place of residence in SA.
I still had a bank account at the time I did the application, but no real assets.

JayM said:
How long did it take after you left to become non resident?
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It was effective from the day I left (but I did the paperwork about 18 months later when I did my tax returns for that year so it was retroactive).
Marked myself as non-res on the tax return, and filled in the updated address. They then sent me a letter saying I needed to motivate the non-tax-res thing, so I wrote up one stating I'd moved, I owned a house here, no fixed property left in SA, my wife lives with me, there is family left in SA but we have no intention to return other than for family visits such as weddings etc. I also included a letter from HMRC stating I was considered tax resident in the UK.
It was approved pretty quickly after that.
 
Travel in this country is a ****ing joke.

2 night stay in Manchester for a work event, plus rail tickets (NOT first class) - £530.
How the hell is this justified? (the hotel is only £190 of that btw)
Oh and it's also off peak rail.
 
Sinbad said:
Travel in this country is a ****ing joke.

2 night stay in Manchester for a work event, plus rail tickets (NOT first class) - £530.
How the hell is this justified? (the hotel is only £190 of that btw)
Oh and it's also off peak rail.
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I can't stand the public transport. Prefer to drive virtually everywhere, including London.

It's absurd. Excusing wear and tear and public charging, it's a few quid by EV.

Plus, air-conditioning, stops when and where you want, and fewer issues when there are strikes and delays.

Public transport is only marginally worth it travelling solo, and even then it depends on the trip.

This is my moany manner of saying I hear ya.
 
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