Importing computing equipment from the US: Will you save money?

Very badly researched and very inaccurate article. I buy goods on a weekly basis from the US. I use mostly myus.com for shipping, very reasonable rates. I usually land items at around 40-70% of the local retail prices. the average is around 55%. So when I buy an iPhone 3GS 32GB, it costs me around R5500 all inclusive, not R10,000 and more as some shops are selling for. I once had a problem with a HDD, I sent it back to Amazon and they sent me a new one. I have bought hundreds of goods from the US,and that was the only problem I ever had. I usually buy from Amazon when they have specials. Sometimes friends bring stuff over & it can cost me 35% of the local price. This morning I received my 64Gb iPad Wi-Fi edition. iGear.co.za retails it for R10,269, my total cost R6927.35.
 
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Sure they can.

+1
They keep a schedule of what you bring in and over your 3.5k or so allowance, they bill you.
It's also random depending on the person behind the desk IMO. Good luck arguing with SARS if you don't like it though.
 
Ok, this is a very, very poor article....

Now, I have not imported from the US, but I have from the UK...

There are some No-No's, like clothes, shoes, etc....local manufacturing stuff that going to get heavy duties and tax....

But, all in all, the article is pretty much mis-leading and written by a noob who, quite franckly has NOT bought ANYTHING from overseas...

I'll give you an example...

I ordered a set of custom built mountain bike wheels for my wife's bike from the UK...

253 GBP was the total cost of the wheels.....shipping and insurance was free for any order above 250 GBP....

I paid by credit card. The wheels were built and 4 days later I received confirmation that the wheels were shipped...

I received the wheels at my local post-office 10 days after I placed the online order....

Here are the charges...

253 british pounds x 13.01 = R3291 (credit card charges included)..
Shipping = free
in RSA
VAT @ 14% = R460.74
Clearence fee = R25.00

Total charges = R 485.74

Total cost of wheels = R3776.74...

Now the local qouted price for smae article....wait for it....R8900....


Anyone that knows CRC....the wheels were Red Hope Pro II hubs, red nipples, DT Swiss revolution spokes and Halo ExciteD rims...


and here is were the fool who wrote the article made an idiot of himself.....YOU DON'T PAY GST/VAT ON THE ITEM IN THE COUNTRY YOU ARE ORDERING IT FROM


But I also know CWC & Icycling and he is kicking CRCs butt. Also not everything on CRC is cheaper. In our last group order I was only able to order an single speed chain and a Shimano crankset for cheaper than local.

- Even my new Suntour shock is way cheaper locally than CRC. *

- My pair XT cantileavers where cheaper than a single set from CRC or Wiggles! *

- My PC9 was cheaper from CWC than CRC. *

* And this is before Import duties and courier charges!


Not everything is cheaper importing. But then again I am aware that Transvaal cyclists get ripped off with their LBS (except Solomons) where in the Cape our guys are on their toes and trying to salvage as much of the lost business as possible.


Not saying you must not shop around as I did get my Camelbak from CRC for a 1/3rd of the local price. Its just that not everything is that much more expensive here or worth the effort importing.
 
lol@article

What a bunch of hooey... propoganda to keep the South African consumer paying high prices for what they want where they can get it for cheap elsewhere.

Give you an idea, I bought a laptop battery for my Dell. SA Price without courier: R1760 ex vat. With courier, almost R2200 excl VAT

Bought one on eBay, R669 including courier costs and had it 10 days later. Plus it comes with a full money back guarantee if I'm not satisfied with the product PLUS 2 year warranty on the battery itself, something the SA people couldn't give me.

Same with a KVM Switch, here, R520... imported, R129 and free shipping...

And I haven't paid more than R39 for "tax"... in fact, the last 7 purchases I made and imported weren't held up at customs and I didn't have to pay anything more than what the original asking price of the item were.

+1


As much as I believe in supporting your local stores, its no excuse for them to ripp you off.


My LBS (Local Bike Shop) knows I compare his prices to CRC (the biggest online exporter to SA, they are a UK based online store). He keeps his prices competative just to do the business. I also do not mind paying a little bit extra for his knowledge and advice.

My previous employer, an IT retailer, is known for their awesome deals. The owner knows where to source locally to give the best deals. He is not South African and comes from a market where consumers shopped around and can easily import.


Keep your suppliers on their feet and if they really want our business then they will give us better deals.
 
@rpm
Thanks for starting a great conversation, I learned a lot of new tricks for importing :D
 
You have restored balance to the force without even realising it - stop speculating - you're wasting bits.

I have uncapped!
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I don't think everyone is reading the same article. While I understand the view that the article wasn't specific enough about where the items were purchased (it's probably better that the local eCommerce shop remain nameless and just be qualified as "local," though) and that it doesn't really showcase how cheaply you can get certain items via eBay or Amazon+MyUS, the article implores the buyer to dig a little deeper than exchange rates and shipping and insurance costs. I also reckon that rather than providing comparitive pricing for purchasing locally (which isn't there, but is suggested by posters on the forum), the specs of the two items would've more been useful for us to draw our own comparisons.

It is clearly advisable for consumers to familiarize themselves with all costs associated with importing equipment before looking at an attractive USD price for a desired item and thinking they will essentially pay that price in Rands when ordering it from the US.

This was the lesson from the article. Not, "Don't import it's not cheaper," but "Caveat emptor: The hidden (or unconsidered) costs, e.g. duties, VAT."

Oops, it seems RPM have to again wipe the egg yolk off his face. That comes from writing articles with input from your advertisers to please and support them, when your true customers are actually MyBB members.

This is exactly why I love this forum. Here the truth comes out and expose those market participants that wants to rip their customers off.

Wipe the egg yolk off his face (if RPM was the Staff Writer in this instance)? For what? Taking the time to write up his experience with importing tech from the US and trying to inform those who might not know that there are other costs to consider before jumping on the importing bandwagon?

We do agree on the love for this forum, though. Oddly we don't come to the same conclusion about the truth that comes out. The truth I'm getting between the article and the posts here is that there are many instances where you can import something for far cheaper than it sells for locally but that there are gotchas one should consider before doing so. Some of the stuff I picked up from the thread are: Don't use airmail - packages are liable to get "lost" in the SA postal system there; Don't buy direct from a manufacturer's online store (e.g. Dell, Lenovo, Toshiba) as this could cause you to pay US State Tax you wouldn't have to pay if you went through eBay or Amazon. I got a lesson from the article as well, as I wrote above the quote from your post.

I've got a question about those that suggest that we ask sellers to state that our imports are gifts when they are not: Isn't that illegal? Is it what it seems like: Stealing money from SARS?

To the folks suggesting we fly over to the 'States and come back with our swag: What about visas? Aren't they difficult (and costly) to obtain?

The above two questions aren't intended to be snarky or rhetorical... They're genuine questions, so try to answer with facts, please (though I would enjoy waxing philosophical about the first one) :-).

FULL DISCLOSURE (so this doesn't come back to bite me a month down the line): I'll be working for MyBroadband from the beginning of June. However, when I post as The Extremist I post purely in my personal capacity (unless otherwise stated). That is, "my views don't necessarily represent those of MB" (time to add a disclaimer in my sig, I guess).

P.S. Sorry for the bracket abuse.
 
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Theres no custom duties on electronics by the way, So you can import anything from any country thats electronics and you wont get knocked. And if you looking to buy something overseas there are many companies electronic ones that do have international warranties.
 
I think rpm was using the worst case scenario because there are cheaper ways to get goods into SA BUT the problem arises when there is a warranty claim. Many of the multi-nationals in SA will not honour warranties if a product was purchased outside SA which means you would either need to send it back to the supplier abroad or find someone here to fix it for you provided they can source the parts.

this article was not about warranties, just a comparison of import prices and not an accurate one at that .
warranties are a separate issue IMO.
 
are there any services like myus.com that use the US Postal Service?
 
Theres no custom duties on electronics by the way, So you can import anything from any country thats electronics and you wont get knocked. And if you looking to buy something overseas there are many companies electronic ones that do have international warranties.

Define customs duties. There is certainly VAT at minimum.
 
are there any services like myus.com that use the US Postal Service?

i only know of them and they are bloody excellent.

I brought in a 128gb ssd and at that stage a 64gb ssd was going for 9k at suppliers, i brought it in for 3.5k. Granted it is a very light item so the courier costs were not bad like 48 dollars. Considering how much i saved it was worth the trouble. 5 days it took to get the thing.

It is the heavy items that hurt. 200-300 dollars courier fees are just :eek:.
 
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